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post Dec 1 2006, 10:00 PM
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Heres mine.

PG Kirk Hinrich
SG Thabo Sefolosha
SF Luol Deng
PF Michael Sweetney
C Ben Wallace

I struggle with putting Sweets in the starting lineup because Noc is red hot! But we need low post scoring and I would rather have Luol Deng (Our emerging star) in the starting rotation from the start while Nocioni can spar Sweetney when he gets tired 5 minutes into the 1st quarter laugh.gif

Thabo is a shutdown defender from the games he has played in thusfar. He will take alot of pressure off of Kirk from guarding the Dwayne Wades and Kobe Bryants of the world.. Of course Thabo will get about every foul call because hes a rookie but its a risk im willing to take. Sweetney we should try and get him established early and then have Nocioni come in and give us his energy about midway through the 1st quarter. Right now if you had to choose who gets the rebound between Ben Wallace and Nocioni, I would go with Noc 10/10 times because of his desire. Wallace may be hurt but his performance this season has been bad to say the least, from what WE were expecting. Maybe he has lost a step IDK but WE WON 3 IN A ROW! biggrin.gif
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post Dec 1 2006, 10:05 PM
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PG Kirk Hinrich
SG Thabo Sefolosha
SF Luol Deng
PF Andres Nocioni
C Ben Wallace

That's it.
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post Dec 1 2006, 10:34 PM
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hinirich
Gordon
Deng
Nocioni
Wallace


Although, if Nocioni and Deng start putting together games like tonight on a regular basis, then I can live with out Gordon's offensive out put in the starting line up.
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post Dec 1 2006, 10:36 PM
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For the next few weeks

Hinrich
Unknown (Duhon, Griffin, Gordon?)
Wallace
Deng
Noc

I don't think Thabo is ready for a starting role yet. Maybe when I watch the game tomorrow night my opinion will change, but personally I favor those main 4 with a rotating Shooting Guard until Thabo is ready to take over that role, hopefully before the end of the season.
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post Dec 1 2006, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Dec 1 2006, 10:29 PM) *
For the next few weeks

Hinrich
Unknown (Duhon, Griffin, Gordon?)
Wallace
Deng
Noc

I don't think Thabo is ready for a starting role yet. Maybe when I watch the game tomorrow night my opinion will change, but personally I favor those main 4 with a rotating Shooting Guard until Thabo is ready to take over that role, hopefully before the end of the season.


Most likely but you never know, Skiles doesnt mind mixing up the lineup early and frequently in the season as we have seen already. I just want Duhon the heck out of the starting lineup and off the bench where he belongs. Too much of an offensive liability with him starting. Our height are as follows with the current lineup

Duhon: 6'1
Hinrich: 6'3
Deng: 6'9 and 1/2
Nocioni: 6'7
Wallace: 6'8

With Thabo we add a 6'7 shooting guard that drastically changes the whole outlook on our size in the backcourt. I can take a 6'3 poing guard and 6'7 shooting guard but our lack of height with our current lineup disturbs me. As you can see, we aren't getting a whole lot of production from it since we established it.
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post Dec 1 2006, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Dec 1 2006, 08:39 PM) *
With Thabo we add a 6'7 shooting guard that drastically changes the whole outlook on our size in the backcourt. I can take a 6'3 poing guard and 6'7 shooting guard but our lack of height with our current lineup disturbs me. As you can see, we aren't getting a whole lot of production from it since we established it.

The starting lineup in temrs of position, defense, scoring, etc., all has the potential to work out beautifully with Thabo in it and Gordon/Duhon on the bench. But the only question I have is...is Thabo ready to play 30 minutes a game, in terms of defense, scoring, rebounding, playing with the team on the floor, and so on.

When the answer to that question becomes "yes", then Thabo should move into the starting lineup. But not beforehand.
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post Dec 2 2006, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Dec 1 2006, 10:44 PM) *
The starting lineup in temrs of position, defense, scoring, etc., all has the potential to work out beautifully with Thabo in it and Gordon/Duhon on the bench. But the only question I have is...is Thabo ready to play 30 minutes a game, in terms of defense, scoring, rebounding, playing with the team on the floor, and so on.

When the answer to that question becomes "yes", then Thabo should move into the starting lineup. But not beforehand.


You never know untill Skiles starts him (30 mins). Only from what I have seen so far this season shows me this kid has all the skills in the world, and the only weakness he has is his ball handling isnt good enough to play point guard which he isnt going to play anyways. His court vision looks legendary quite honestly. I can't wait to see this kid explode.
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post Dec 2 2006, 01:55 PM
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I want to see Sweetney riding the bench for some other team.

Until dude is willing to give up the cheeseburgers and drop a good 50 pounds, he'll be useless.
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post Dec 2 2006, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Dec 2 2006, 01:48 PM) *
I want to see Sweetney riding the bench for some other team.

Until dude is willing to give up the cheeseburgers and drop a good 50 pounds, he'll be useless.


So he cant put up 12 points 7 rebounds and 2 blocks like he did last night at his current weight? Sure he needs to lose that excessive weight but he can still have productive minutes when he is in there. Everyone seems to forget the guy was the number 9 pick in the draft a few years ago. (Maybe 14th? Cant remember).
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post Dec 2 2006, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Dec 2 2006, 02:23 PM) *
So he cant put up 12 points 7 rebounds and 2 blocks like he did last night at his current weight? Sure he needs to lose that excessive weight but he can still have productive minutes when he is in there. Everyone seems to forget the guy was the number 9 pick in the draft a few years ago. (Maybe 14th? Cant remember).


A fat player is a tired player, and a tired player is TOAST on defense. That's my concern.

He'd be a quality bench player if he was in shape.

Draft position doesn't mean anything either. I mean, hell, Ben Gordon was selected #3 overall. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 2 2006, 02:55 PM
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True, but Sweetney does have what we need, a low post scorer.
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post Dec 2 2006, 10:03 PM
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I'd like to start games off with Sweetney, trying to get him involved early so we can get some low post presence. I really think when used in spurts Sweetney is one of the better low post scorers in the league (he just gets tired and at that point on he's worthless).

QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Dec 2 2006, 12:39 PM) *
A fat player is a tired player, and a tired player is TOAST on defense. That's my concern.

He'd be a quality bench player if he was in shape.

Draft position doesn't mean anything either. I mean, hell, Ben Gordon was selected #3 overall. biggrin.gif

That said Gordon has made a boatload of strides this year. He's driving to the hoop a lot more, actually getting to the line and looks far far better at passing. I have slammed Gordon a lot but once he gets comfortable with his shot I really think he'll be our most improved player this year (and while he still has noticeable holes, I think he's starting to become pretty worthwhile).
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post Dec 2 2006, 10:36 PM
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Ben G is playing well right now off the bench so when our starters come off we dont lose a step from scoring woes. He is a great asset to have while also being a good trading asset biggrin.gif
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post Dec 3 2006, 02:08 AM
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I really want to see Thabo starting alongside Kirk. But other than that Id keep the rest the same with Deng/Noc/Wallace finishing it up. I really believe the less minutes Duhon gets the better this team becomes. Thats unless Duhon plays like he did vs Miami/NY when he isnt afraid to shoot the open shot.
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post Dec 3 2006, 06:14 PM
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G Hinrich
G Deng
F Nocioni
F Thomas
C Wallace

tyrus thomas should start no matter what. i know he doesnt shoot well atm, but look at his recent game. 9 pts 10 reb in 27min, and i think he'll do the bulls some good
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