The Official 2008 NBA Draft Thread |
The Official 2008 NBA Draft Thread |
Jun 23 2008, 11:17 AM
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I did forget to discuss that. That's unlike me b/c I've been hyping up Mayo for a couple of weeks now. I still want to get him on the Bulls to have a Mayo/Rose backcourt for the future. As for Rose he had pretty much the 4th best no step vertical leap of any player and the best of any player that is actually worth drafting. There is definately a chance that Mayo turns into the best player out of this draft. People really underestimated this guy as he didn't live up to all the hype in his freshman year of college, but he actually showed to me in one season that he was far more mature than I ever anticapated. This guy is going to be a tremendous pro. He's definately a bit of a tweener but lucky for him he possesses great all around ability. All that said, I'm still a bit hard pressed to pass on Beasley. The guy is just a scoring machine. |
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Jun 23 2008, 11:53 AM
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Mayo still needs serious work on his decision making, his turnover rate and shot selection were god-awful most of the year and I have a hard time seeing that get significantly better in the near future. He's talented and he'll put up numbers, but I don't see him being a player that'll positively impact your team in the win column, something like Gilbert Arenas with less shooting ability, which is scary because he shoots A LOT of jumpers. Beasley will at least hit at a higher percentage because he'll play inside and rebound even if his defensive effort is lacking.
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Jun 23 2008, 02:24 PM
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Chad Ford's latest mock has some fascinating trade talk.
QUOTE We continue to hear that the Heat will probably trade the No. 2 pick if Rose is off the board. The latest talk has the Sonics and Heat discussing a swap that would send the No. 2 pick and Mark Blount to Seattle for Chris Wilcox and the No. 4 pick. The move would give the Heat a huge amount of cap space in the summer of 2009. (Wilcox is in the last year of his contract, while Blount has two years and $16 millon remaining.) At No. 4, if Mayo were off the board, the Heat would have their choice of Jerryd Bayless, Russell Westbrook or Brook Lopez. All three would fit a need for them. QUOTE As of Sunday, the word out of Minnesota was that the team will draft O.J. Mayo if Beasley is off the board. Though Mayo doesn't fit a need, he would be considered the best player available, and that appears to be swaying Minnesota in his direction. A Beasley, Durant, Green front court in OKC? Yowza.
At the same time, a lot of trade talk surrounds this pick. The Knicks, Clippers, Bucks and Trail Blazers all have tried to maneuver to get this pick. The Bucks may have the best chance of succeeding if they offer Yi Jianlian or Charlie Villanueva as part of a package. If the Wolves trade down, their target seems to be Brook Lopez or Kevin Love. |
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Jun 25 2008, 11:01 AM
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Jun 25 2008, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE New Orleans has sold pick 27 to the Blazers for cash considerations. i think the blazers will trade both of their first rounders for a veteran, they dont need any more young players. |
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Jun 25 2008, 01:30 PM
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I got word from another poster on another board that he has sources that tell him the Heat are trying to trade Shawn Marion to the Toronto Raptors for TJ Ford and contract fillers.. FWIW
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Jun 25 2008, 01:52 PM
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I got word from another poster on another board that he has sources that tell him the Heat are trying to trade Shawn Marion to the Toronto Raptors for TJ Ford and contract fillers.. FWIW There are a bunch of rumors involving the Heat. One of them was dealing #2 to Seattle along with Blount's awful contract for #4 and Wilcox (which Balta mentioned), one was Marion and #2 to the Clippers for Brand and #7, another involves them getting either Miller, Lowry and #5 from Mephis or Conley and #5 for #2 and Blounts contract, and there's a rumor that they might simply take Mayo at #2 if they can't pull anything off (partially because they think they have a shot at Boozer after next year). They really don't seem to want Beasley, which is pretty strange considering he's nearly unanimously considered the most talented player in the draft, and it's not like their other option that they're leaning towards (Mayo) has never had any character concerns either. |
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Jun 25 2008, 02:49 PM
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I'm a bit perplexed at what the Heat are talking about, but a lot of those deals involve them getting proven NBA stars and they would be getting value for Beasley while still keeping a very high draft pick so If I were a heat fan I wouldn't be opposed to a lot of what is being rumored out there.
However, taking Mayo over Beasley would be strange (I realize Mayo may turn out to be better, but you can't take him ahead of Beasley). |
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Jun 25 2008, 03:28 PM
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I'm a bit perplexed at what the Heat are talking about, but a lot of those deals involve them getting proven NBA stars and they would be getting value for Beasley while still keeping a very high draft pick so If I were a heat fan I wouldn't be opposed to a lot of what is being rumored out there. However, taking Mayo over Beasley would be strange (I realize Mayo may turn out to be better, but you can't take him ahead of Beasley). Well, I think the Heat's plan sort of makes sense here. They're holding right now what I see as 3 pieces of a decent starting lineup...Haslem, Marion, and Wade. One of them clearly is a superstar. But they need 2 more pieces, another guard alongside Wade and another big man. The only way they can fill both of those needs is to try to use their pick and trade down to fill both. Especially if they're just not sold on Beasley for whatever reason. |
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Jun 25 2008, 03:46 PM
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TJ Ford, Rasho Nesterovic, and the 17th pick for Jermaine O'Neal is a done deal. O'Neal and Bosh could be scary good when healthy.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqLc...o&type=lgns |
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Jun 25 2008, 03:54 PM
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TJ Ford, Rasho Nesterovic, and the 17th pick for Jermaine O'Neal is a done deal. O'Neal and Bosh could be scary good when healthy. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqLc...o&type=lgns Guess that means Indiana goes big at 11. That might work out pretty well if by some miracle O'Neal is healthy. He always shot too many jumpers for my liking, but he's been a hell of a defensive player when he's actually on the floor. |
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Jun 25 2008, 03:57 PM
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Guess that means Indiana goes big at 11. That might work out pretty well if by some miracle O'Neal is healthy. He always shot too many jumpers for my liking, but he's been a hell of a defensive player when he's actually on the floor. That means Sactown might get Augustin, which I'd love. |
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Jun 25 2008, 04:12 PM
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I see Mario Chalmers jumping up draft boards. I think he'd be a good fit for the Kings.
As for the Oneal trade. It could work out pretty well if he stays healthy and thats a huge IF.. JON and Bosh's game are pretty much the same so we'll see how that works.. |
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Jun 25 2008, 06:00 PM
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Charlotte Bobcats have acquired the 20th overall pick from the Nuggets in exchange for a future first round, protected pick (ie, Lotto protected). Not a bad move for the Bobcats who clearly could use as much talent as they can get.
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Jun 25 2008, 06:03 PM
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Vinny Del Negro was on ESPN 1000 and his comments regarding the draft were much kinder to Rose than Beasley. With Rose it was all about how impressive his character was and all the intangibles where as with Beasley he raved more about the stats that he knew he had put up at Kstate as opposed to what impressed the Bulls upon his visit.
Writing is definately on the wall and Rose is going to be the #1 pick by the Bulls. The one interesting quote to come from Del Negro was related to the young players, where Del Negro said the team would do its best to play to the young players strength's and hide their weaknesses. This is a big plus to me because too quickly when a young player made a mistake they were pulled and this comment makes me believe the Bulls will be patient to an extent and try to protect its young players and give them the minutes (while doing everything possible to put them in spots to succeed). I really think Del Negro is going to be a great fit as he'll be able to grow into the head coaching position while this team grows from an opening round playoff birth to a title contneder in the next 2-4 years (I'm expecting playoffs this season). |
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