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post Jul 17 2006, 01:03 AM
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Looks like JR's on his way to Denver, in what appears to be another salary dump. At least we get 2 2nd rounders out of it...

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Before Griffin’s signing becomes official, the Bulls will send shooting guard J.R. Smith to Denver for two future second-round draft picks and the nonguaranteed contract of point guard Howard Eisley, who will then be released.

One potential delay is waiting for physicals to be completed in the trade with New Orleans. The Bulls acquired Smith from the Hornets, along with power forward P.J. Brown, in exchange for Tyson Chandler. They can’t unload Smith until that deal becomes official.


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post Jul 17 2006, 01:13 PM
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I predict this thread will be dug up in a couple years to show how ridiculous this trade was.

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We wouldn't have Sef without that 2nd rounder we traded.

2nd rounders are real valuable to move up a few spots in the mid-late 1st round.

We can get 2nd rounders WITHOUT trading an explosive 20 year old with a perfect frame and an outside game.
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post Jul 17 2006, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 17 2006, 02:04 PM) *
I predict this thread will be dug up in a couple years to show how ridiculous this trade was.

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There is a reason this guy has not been shopped for a long long time and the Hornets did not get any good offers in return. There is a reason that no one was beating down Pax's door for this guy.
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post Jul 17 2006, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 17 2006, 07:06 PM) *
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There is a reason this guy has not been shopped for a long long time and the Hornets did not get any good offers in return. There is a reason that no one was beating down Pax's door for this guy.

There is a reason why Darko never got PT in Detroit. Or why Jermaine Oneal never did in Portland, right?
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post Jul 17 2006, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 17 2006, 02:08 PM) *
There is a reason why Darko never got PT in Detroit. Or why Jermaine Oneal never did in Portland, right?

Thats where you are wrong. Smiths selfishness, immaturity, and hardheadedness put him on the bench his sophomore year. His rookie year, he got plenty of minutes.

Jeez, Rememberthe90's was right, everyone fell in love with Smith after watching a video of him dunking all the time. Adrian Griffin is a proven commodity in the NBA and starte 40+ games for a team that went to the NBA Finals. He's a Skiles type player and played well when he was with the Bulls a year ago. I'd take the guy who know's the system and gets the job done over the guy who has tons of potential.
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- Giant Killer   Smith to be Traded to Denver   Jul 17 2006, 01:03 AM
- - dasox24   What!?!? What a waste! We might as w...   Jul 17 2006, 01:08 AM
- - Giant Killer   Yeah I don't really like this move. I'd ra...   Jul 17 2006, 01:12 AM
|- - TrueFan   QUOTE (Giant Killer @ Jul 17 2006, 02:05 ...   Jul 17 2006, 01:21 AM
|- - SoxFan1   QUOTE (TrueFan @ Jul 17 2006, 02:14 AM) P...   Jul 17 2006, 01:25 AM
|- - Chisoxfn   QUOTE (TrueFan @ Jul 17 2006, 12:14 AM) P...   Jul 17 2006, 09:18 AM
- - Giant Killer   IMO Pax has yet to make a bad move, so I'll gi...   Jul 17 2006, 01:31 AM
- - soxfan101   This isnt an official report is it? If so its kin...   Jul 17 2006, 01:47 AM
- - Giant Killer   It's not official, it was in Mike McGraw's...   Jul 17 2006, 01:53 AM
- - TeaLeafReaderII   so um tyson chandler (or elton Brandt if you want...   Jul 17 2006, 02:08 AM
- - Giant Killer   well that 37 yr old pg has a nonguaranteed contrac...   Jul 17 2006, 02:12 AM
- - southsider2k5   This was in today's Tribune as well, so it is abou...   Jul 17 2006, 06:48 AM
- - steve9347   I heard this during the morning commute. I don...   Jul 17 2006, 08:26 AM
|- - southsider2k5   QUOTE (steve9347 @ Jul 17 2006, 09:19 AM)...   Jul 17 2006, 09:20 AM
- - Chisoxfn   Well I figured a wing player was going to have to ...   Jul 17 2006, 09:05 AM
- - RememberThe90's   I hightly doubt Smith could play for Skiles anyway...   Jul 17 2006, 09:19 AM
- - steve9347   Before this deal was made, I considered the Tyson ...   Jul 17 2006, 09:22 AM
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|- - southsider2k5   QUOTE (Kogs35 @ Jul 17 2006, 10:22 AM) he...   Jul 17 2006, 10:07 AM
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- - RememberThe90's   People need to realize something about the Bulls a...   Jul 17 2006, 09:51 AM
- - Balta1701-B   Well, the good news about this is it gives Thabo a...   Jul 17 2006, 09:54 AM
- - bulls91   QUOTE (Giant Killer @ Jul 17 2006, 01:56 ...   Jul 17 2006, 10:25 AM
- - ZoomSlowik   Not a fan of this at all. I got to imagine that we...   Jul 17 2006, 10:35 AM
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- - The Dude Abides   wow, giving up a great young prospect for an old b...   Jul 17 2006, 10:49 AM
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- - Da Bulls 88   Stupid move.   Jul 17 2006, 11:20 AM
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- - RememberThe90's   yeah..Pax is a terrible GM. wow...some things j...   Jul 17 2006, 11:52 AM
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- - Da Bulls 88   2nd round picks....pffftttt.   Jul 17 2006, 03:52 PM
- - RememberThe90's   again 2nd round picks have got us Duhon and Thabo.   Jul 17 2006, 03:57 PM
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