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post Feb 20 2007, 08:43 AM
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According to the NY Post (Peter Vescey), Pau Gasol's exodus from Memphis has lost momentum. If the Grizzlies can't wheedle Ben Gordon and Luol Deng from the Bulls, he's not going anywhere, it says here. Meaning Gasol is staying put. John Paxson unwaveringly refuses to give up both or even two of his consecrated corps (Kirk Hinrich and Andres Nocioni) of four, whereas Jerry West steadfastly refuses to surrender his superior services for anything less. Moreover, there's strong sentiment from above that even if that ideal deal became available it'd be a monumental mistake to move Gasol at this time. Better to delay deliberating parting with a 26-year-old, 7-foot, All-Star caliber talent until it's established what position the Grizzlies will own in this June's draft and whether Greg Oden and Kevin Durant have declared their eligibility for it. Imagine Gasol alongside one or the other and then add Rudy Burrito, Mike Miller (not exactly a lock to remain in Memphis past Thursday), Hakim Warrick, Alexander Johnson, Lawrence Roberts and largely forgotten (special rookie) Kyle Lowry, out forever with a broken left hand. "Trade Pau now and then what?" wondered a Grizzlies executive before answering his own question. "We'll wind up spending the next 10 years trying to replace him." Convinced time and youth, for the most part, are on his side, the Bulls VP is scouring the topography for a halfway decent post-up scorer (Shareef Abdur-Rahim?) unless, of course, someone like Zach Randolph suddenly comes on the market.
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post Feb 21 2007, 01:16 AM
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skiles isn't a perfect coach, and his flaw is a clear one, but overall he is one of the better coaches in the league. I think of all the teams that have become coaching carousels over the last decade and i think we should stick with skiles till the team stops improving.

On another note, what about shareef abdur-rahim? I really like his post scoring, and as we;ve seen when PJ brown has good games, we dont need a dominant low post scorer bc we are a damn good drive and kick team. We just need someone good enough that they can consistently give us something down there when we arent hitting jump shots and can command attention when we throw it in.

It probably wouldnt take any of our core players.
Maybe sweets, khryapa and picks could get it done.
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post Feb 21 2007, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (sport1016 @ Feb 21 2007, 01:09 AM) *
skiles isn't a perfect coach, and his flaw is a clear one, but overall he is one of the better coaches in the league. I think of all the teams that have become coaching carousels over the last decade and i think we should stick with skiles till the team stops improving.

we dont need a dominant low post scorer bc we are a damn good drive and kick team.


That won't get us anywhere. Drive and kicks are bad % shots because they are from the 3pt line or just in front of it. The only way the Bulls will have a dominant team is to have a dominant low post player. Shareef wouldn't solve any of our problems because he is shorter but a better shooter than Mr Brown.

Gasol or Bust for this team the way it is consituted right now. If we can't get him It looks like we may be looking at a first round exit again. Possibly a second round if were lucky.
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post Feb 21 2007, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Feb 21 2007, 01:43 PM) *
That won't get us anywhere. Drive and kicks are bad % shots because they are from the 3pt line or just in front of it. The only way the Bulls will have a dominant team is to have a dominant low post player. Shareef wouldn't solve any of our problems because he is shorter but a better shooter than Mr Brown.

Gasol or Bust for this team the way it is consituted right now. If we can't get him It looks like we may be looking at a first round exit again. Possibly a second round if were lucky.

Maybe I don't understand basketball all that well, but isn't the whole idea about having an offensive low post player that he can not only score but is able to dish out to other people so as to open up their shots more and increase the %age? I'm just thinking Dwayne Wade...he's certainly not a post-up guy, and Shaq wasn't effective at all in the playoffs compared to Wade, but either Wade was slashing and creating his own shot or Wade was dishing and opening up outside shots for other people. The Bulls don't have a single slasher who's as good as Wade, but they have a couple ok ones in Gordon, Hinrich, and Deng (all 3 of whom hopefully will keep getting better), and if you throw a non-terrible offensive threat in the lane in the form of Raheem, to the point where the Bulls can get some easy points inside if the opposition puts all its defense on the outside guys, I think the setup could work darn well.

And beyond that, I still don't see the Grizzlies giving up Gasol for anything less than Deng + another big name guy from our team, which is simply more than he's going to be worth. The Bulls just can't give up 40+ ppg, 10 rpg+, and 5 apg+ per game to get Gasol, which is what it looks like the Grizz want if they're asking for Deng + Gordon + PJ still.
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- spiderman   According to Peter Vescey (NY Post)   Feb 20 2007, 08:43 AM
- - madisonsmadhouse   Zach Randoplph would be available for the right pr...   Feb 20 2007, 09:01 AM
- - DrunkBomber   If we could get Randolph for what we wanted to giv...   Feb 20 2007, 01:11 PM
- - soxfan3530   randolph for (deng or gordon) brown and the pick??...   Feb 20 2007, 02:23 PM
|- - DrunkBomber   QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Feb 20 2007, 02:16 PM...   Feb 20 2007, 02:27 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Feb 20 2007, 02:20 P...   Feb 20 2007, 03:04 PM
- - ZoomSlowik   I want no part of Randolph. Yes, he can score and ...   Feb 20 2007, 03:10 PM
|- - Wanne   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Feb 20 2007, 03:03 PM...   Feb 20 2007, 04:31 PM
- - MB33   Agreed skiles and zach wont work!   Feb 20 2007, 04:26 PM
|- - soxfan3530   QUOTE (MB33 @ Feb 20 2007, 04:19 PM) Agre...   Feb 20 2007, 05:18 PM
|- - The Dude Abides   QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Feb 20 2007, 06:11 PM...   Feb 20 2007, 05:27 PM
- - The Dude Abides   I wouldnt give up Gordon or Deng for Randolf. I h...   Feb 20 2007, 05:14 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   If West thinks we will give up both Deng AND Gordo...   Feb 20 2007, 05:21 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   That is also a reason why I'd like to see Pax ...   Feb 20 2007, 06:26 PM
|- - The Dude Abides   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Feb 20 2007,...   Feb 20 2007, 06:51 PM
|- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   QUOTE (The Dude Abides @ Feb 20 2007, 06...   Feb 20 2007, 11:04 PM
- - sport1016   skiles isn't a perfect coach, and his flaw is a cl...   Feb 21 2007, 01:16 AM
|- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   QUOTE (sport1016 @ Feb 21 2007, 01:09 AM)...   Feb 21 2007, 03:50 PM
|- - Balta1701-B   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Feb 21 2007,...   Feb 21 2007, 07:23 PM
- - madisonsmadhouse   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Feb 20 2007,...   Feb 21 2007, 08:13 AM
|- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Feb 21 2007, 08...   Feb 21 2007, 03:48 PM
|- - SoxFan1   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Feb 21 2007,...   Feb 21 2007, 03:50 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   I agree with you on a few of your points but the r...   Feb 21 2007, 07:41 PM
|- - Balta1701-B   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Feb 21 2007,...   Feb 21 2007, 07:50 PM
- - madisonsmadhouse   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Feb 21 2007,...   Feb 22 2007, 08:11 AM
- - DrunkBomber   While Randolph has proven himself as a talented sc...   Feb 22 2007, 10:20 AM


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