The Official 2008 NBA Draft Thread Options

[soxfan3530]

I figured there would be a decent number of topics about this year's draft so this is the thread to discuss all things draft (mostly about the bulls.
Here is the info:



NBA Draft Lottery: May 20




NBA DRAFT: June 26 in New York City

[SoxFan1]

Augustin, Love, Westbrook, and Batum are my wish-list if we get the #9 pick.

[dasox24]

Augustin, Love, Westbrook, and Batum are my wish-list if we get the #9 pick.

Sounds about right to me. Besides Love, none of those big men expected to be there at #9 intrigue me at all.


Also, just wanted to point out something for the sake of arguement:

I think a lot of people around here believe the Bulls need more of a true PG than Hinrich is. So, let me pose this question to you. Would you trade Tyrus and Ben Gordon to the Grizzlies for Mike Conley to get us that PG? This, of course, is pending the Grizz get the #1 or 2 pick to select Derrick Rose in the draft.

The Grizzlies have a plethora of PGs and are in big need of a low-post defender and a scorer, both of which we could give them and they'd fit really well with Iavaroni's offense. This would then allow us to spin off Kirk for a talented player elsewhere. Then, with the draft pick we could take a scorer to come off the bench and fill Gordon's roll as a scorer off the bench. Now, obviously, a rookie won't score like Gordon has for us, but if that's all he's asked to do, then I think he could be productive.

[SoxFan1]

I think a lot of people around here believe the Bulls need more of a true PG than Hinrich is. So, let me pose this question to you. Would you trade Tyrus and Ben Gordon to the Grizzlies for Mike Conley to get us that PG? This, of course, is pending the Grizz get the #1 or 2 pick to select Derrick Rose in the draft.

Absolutely not. As much as I dislike Tyrus, and as inconsistent as Gordon is, he's still our best scorer and we'd basically be giving them Tyrus as a gift. I think you overestimate Tyrus' defensive abilities. He's not a very good man to man defender, and most, if not all of his blocked shots come off of help defense or during fights for the ball down low. Gordon and Tyrus could get us a MUCH better player than Mike Conley.

For a guy who hasn't really proven anything in the league, and for that matter, only had 2 games if 10+ assists last season, he sure gets a lot of love around here. And thats in 56 games, 46 as a starter. If the deal was Tyrus for Conley, I'd do it, but I doubt Memphis would. But Tyrus AND Gordon would lead me to question Paxson's sanity.

This must be a tough one for you eddog, 3 players you absolutely love.

[eddog2]

Absolutely not. As much as I dislike Tyrus, and as inconsistent as Gordon is, he's still our best scorer and we'd basically be giving them Tyrus as a gift. I think you overestimate Tyrus' defensive abilities. He's not a very good man to man defender, and most, if not all of his blocked shots come off of help defense or during fights for the ball down low. Gordon and Tyrus could get us a MUCH better player than Mike Conley.

For a guy who hasn't really proven anything in the league, and for that matter, only had 2 games if 10+ assists last season, he sure gets a lot of love around here. And thats in 56 games, 46 as a starter. If the deal was Tyrus for Conley, I'd do it, but I doubt Memphis would. But Tyrus AND Gordon would lead me to question Paxson's sanity.

This must be a tough one for you eddog, 3 players you absolutely love.

Before I even got to the last paragraph, I knew you were going to throw my name out. To be honest this really isn't a tough one for me. It's down right stupid to trade Gordon & Tyrus for Conley. Now if it means trading those 2 and our pick for Memphis' pick and Conley then I'd have to consider it but I doubt they would. I wouldn't trade Gordon straight up for Conley b/c then who is going to score on our team. We'd go from bad offensively to horrible. Anyway, I do like Conley and with the abundance of guards they have and the possibility that they could be getting Rose, I just don't see why or how they'll have room to keep them all. I say they keep Crinttenton and trade us Conley but it shouldn't take much. Maybe Nocioni and next year's first.

You are right that he hasn't proved anythig as a pro yet. But he'll still be a good pro and I'd trade from him if he's available which I think he is/will be. It would be best to trade for him while his value is low instead of waiting until he has a good season. However, with that said, I wouldn't trade Ben Gordon for him and I'd even have trouble trading Tyrus for him straight up (although I'd probably pull the trigger) b/c I still have faith that Tyrus will develop (which I'm probably stupid for thinking).

Anyway, Conley had a respectable rookie season. 9.4 ppg & 4.2 apg in only 26.1 mpg. He actually showed good touch from the outside which I thought he would not demonstrate for a few years. He only shot 33.3% from the arc but he proved he can hit the shot and I'm sure he'll only improve that % in the future. We also have to keep in mind that he is only 20 years old vs the 23 years old that Kirk came into the league at. He shot 42.8% from the field which is better than all but 1 of Hinrich's seasons. My only hope is that if we do add Conley I think we need to start either Hughes or Thabo b/c I don't think a Conley/Gordon lineup will be able to defend anybody.

[Balta1701-B]

Before I even got to the last paragraph, I knew you were going to throw my name out. To be honest this really isn't a tough one for me. It's down right stupid to trade Gordon & Tyrus for Conley. Now if it means trading those 2 and our pick for Memphis' pick and Conley then I'd have to consider it but I doubt they would.

The way I understand things, I believe this is impossible. Gordon and Deng aren't under contract for next season yet and are still covered by the NBA's no-trade, post deadline rules, and can not be traded for anything until the FA period begins when they can be moved in sign & trade deals, which comes after the draft.

[eddog2]

The way I understand things, I believe this is impossible. Gordon and Deng aren't under contract for next season yet and are still covered by the NBA's no-trade, post deadline rules, and can not be traded for anything until the FA period begins when they can be moved in sign & trade deals, which comes after the draft.

You are correct. I don't know what I was thinking. Well how about Mike Miller & Conley for a re-signed Kirk, Tyrus, & a future 1st. I know that Memphis has been looking to trade Miller but I'm not sure what their interest in Kirk would be.