The Bulls Future, What Paxson should do for now... Options

[Bullies4Life]

Well, there are a lot of questions going on these days with the Bulls.. Who's out, who's in, right? In my humble opinion, im gonna share what i believe the route the Bulls organization should go with...

Lets start off with our key free agents, Mr. Deng and Mr. Gordon. Luol Deng should be kept, and i hate to say this but... Ben Gordon is out. No sign and trade or anything like that... Just let him walk out. Now, i know that there are some who think that Too much was invested for him, and we'd be losing a pick and blah blah blah.... I really like Gordon on the bulls, not only what he does on the court but how he handles himself off the court... That being said, as of today, the bulls backcourt is loaded and room needs to be made. With Rose now joining the team, I cannot see a Ben Gordon and Derrick Rose as our starting future backcourt. Ben will be coming off the bench making like what? 8-10 mill a year? Too much for a bench player.... That money will need to go to players like Deng, Thomas, Noah, and eventually Rose, who will most likely be making lots of money...

Why not sign and trade Gordon for a big guy? Well, in my opinion, i dont want to see another person coming in and taking time from our guys, Noah and Thomas. These guys need to develop, and develop fast. It's time to let them get their minutes, develop, and get more experience. Thats our future, so let them play! Thomas has shown that he can post some nice all around numbers when he gets lot of minutes out there...

Kirk Hinrich should be kept for a year, then traded away.... I wouldnt mind seeing Rose start right away, but Rose is still young and needs a lot to learn. One year coming off the bench shouldnt hurt him.

Free Agents.... I would like the bulls to go after 1 veteran big guy. Malik Allen came to my mind. I dont want this guy taking minutes from Thomas, Noah, Gooden, and even Gray.... I just think we need an insurance type of guy incase one of our bigs goes down.

To sum up, Deng, Rose, and Allen are in... Gordon, Duhon are out.

Starters....

Hinrich- 29 mins: 11pts, 6 ast.
Sefolosha- 20 min: 8pts,
Deng- 35 mins: 18-19pts
Thomas- 26 mins: 11pts, 6.5 rbs, 1-2blk
Noah- 28 mins: 9pts, 7rbs

Bench....

Rose- 19 mins: 9pts, 4.6 ast (After all-star break, i would like to see Rose get 20+ mins) 12-14 pts, 5-7 ast
Hughes- 18 mins: 10 pts
Nocioni 22 mins: 10pts (playing both F postions)
Gooden 28 mins: 12pts, 8rbs (playing PF and C positions)
Gray?- 0-10 mins... (depending on match ups)
Allen
Curry

As far as points per game goes... They could be higher IF and When Rose begins to take over the team... He is a guy that can and will break down the opposing defense, and he should be able to create easier shots for everyone...

In the near future, i would like to see Hinrich moved for a back-up for Rose and a scoring back-up for Sefolosha:-) Im not a big fan of keeping Hughes after his contract is over.... Maybe if he becomes more of a slasher instead of a chucker, then he might be a keeper... But i doubt it will happen.

On the last note, i do believe it would be great to bring an established All-Star type of player... But for what? The Bulls aren't ready to compete until Rose, Thomas, and Noah are veterans. Rose is soooo perfect for guys like Thomas and Noah, so i dont think our front court should be moved. As far as having a leader on the team, that would be great.... But i will say this: the Bulls will have their leader when Rose takes over the team. There is almost no question that he will be the Bulls best player in the future, and everyone will look up to him... This could be by the end of this year, or who knows, maybe 2-3 years from now. I just really think it depends on Paxson, what types of moves he's going to make, and how much playing time Rose is going to get.

We got our future SuperStar! Now we just gotta be a little patient.... Questions, comments, concerns?

[eddog2]

Let Gordon go for nothing? Start Tyrus, Noah, Thabo and not try and trade for a stud PF/C b/c defensively. B/C Tyrus & Noah are transformers with the abilty to push a button and morphe into offensive studs. I'm with you that they need PT to get better but we need a scorer and making a deal that ships Gooden out of here and gives us a stud PF/C is the only obvious thing that Paxson still needs to do. Noah got plenty of minutes the 2nd half of last year. As for getting Tyrus minutes, I think we need to ship Nocioni & Gooden out the door and then use Tyrus as the first reserve at the 3/4.

Oh, and by the way, this has got to be the worst threads I've seen since joining almost 2 years ago and here is why. There is no way we can afford to just let Gordon walk out the door. Let him walk out the door b/c we have too many guards when he's our best freaking guard and our best freaking scorer. Are you shitting me? Sure his defense isn't up to par with his offense but you said it yourself, VDN is going to try and mask peoples weaknesses. Maybe he can come up with some different defensive plays for when Gordon is out on the court. Anyway, there is no way in hell we can just let Gordon walk out the door without getting something in return. At the very least we need to trade for an expiring contract and a 1st round pick (top 3 protected). There will be a boat load of teams (especially the Knicks) willing to make that kind of a deal. spiff we could probably ship Gordon & Hughes up for Marbury's expiring contract and a future 1st. Then we could tell Marbury he's not welcome in the building and wait until he comes off the books (or use his expiring contract in a future trade). You could then move Kirk over to the SG along with Thabo and amazingly my plan is better than just letting him go and it free's up cap space and minutes for both Thabo & Rose. Thabo & Kirk can also rotate at PG for the 2nd unit. Under this scenario I'd still like to add a veteran PG or SG who can hit the 3 (Eddie House). Damn under this scenario it would have been nice to have CDR.

As for having a bench player make $8-10 million I see no problem with that if it is a player of Ben Gordon's ability. The guy is flat out on of the best 3 point shooters of the past decade. You just don't find players who can score in bunches the way he can. And we already pay Nocioni $8 million but that seems to be a non-issue.

And one more comment. 19 mintues? Are you serious? You want to give Nocioni, Tyrus, & Thabo more minutes per game then our future franchise player? What a joke. I don't care if he dribbles the ball off his face every time down the court. I still want him playing 30+ mpg and truthfully I'd like him start every game and average 36 mpg the same way Chris Paul did as a rookie in all 78 games he played.

[Bullies4Life]

Let Gordon go for nothing? Start Tyrus, Noah, Thabo and not try and trade for a stud PF/C b/c defensively. B/C Tyrus & Noah are transformers with the abilty to push a button and morphe into offensive studs. I'm with you that they need PT to get better but we need a scorer and making a deal that ships Gooden out of here and gives us a stud PF/C is the only obvious thing that Paxson still needs to do. Noah got plenty of minutes the 2nd half of last year. As for getting Tyrus minutes, I think we need to ship Nocioni & Gooden out the door and then use Tyrus as the first reserve at the 3/4.

Oh, and by the way, this has got to be the worst threads I've seen since joining almost 2 years ago and here is why. There is no way we can afford to just let Gordon walk out the door. Let him walk out the door b/c we have too many guards when he's our best freaking guard and our best freaking scorer. Are you shitting me? Sure his defense isn't up to par with his offense but you said it yourself, VDN is going to try and mask peoples weaknesses. Maybe he can come up with some different defensive plays for when Gordon is out on the court. Anyway, there is no way in hell we can just let Gordon walk out the door without getting something in return. At the very least we need to trade for an expiring contract and a 1st round pick (top 3 protected). There will be a boat load of teams (especially the Knicks) willing to make that kind of a deal. spiff we could probably ship Gordon & Hughes up for Marbury's expiring contract and a future 1st. Then we could tell Marbury he's not welcome in the building and wait until he comes off the books (or use his expiring contract in a future trade). You could then move Kirk over to the SG along with Thabo and amazingly my plan is better than just letting him go and it free's up cap space and minutes for both Thabo & Rose. Thabo & Kirk can also rotate at PG for the 2nd unit. Under this scenario I'd still like to add a veteran PG or SG who can hit the 3 (Eddie House). Damn under this scenario it would have been nice to have CDR.

As for having a bench player make $8-10 million I see no problem with that if it is a player of Ben Gordon's ability. The guy is flat out on of the best 3 point shooters of the past decade. You just don't find players who can score in bunches the way he can. And we already pay Nocioni $8 million but that seems to be a non-issue.

And one more comment. 19 mintues? Are you serious? You want to give Nocioni, Tyrus, & Thabo more minutes per game then our future franchise player? What a joke. I don't care if he dribbles the ball off his face every time down the court. I still want him playing 30+ mpg and truthfully I'd like him start every game and average 36 mpg the same way Chris Paul did as a rookie in all 78 games he played.

I agree, Gordon is the best guard that we have at the moment... That being said, Gordon was meant to play with Hinrich, and we have seen that that did not pan out, and we are moving to a new direction with Rose.


Lets remember that the Bulls are now rebuilding around our future superstar, Derrick Rose, who is only 19 years of age. We are not building around Gordon anymore.... Because of Gordon, the Bulls played Kirk in the 2 spot defensively, and we all know how much Kirk got into foul trouble... We also drafted Thabo because Paxson had a vision of Thabo handling the point guard duties....


Ben Gordon is asking for 10 mil a year.... The way the league pays big guys as of today, it looks like Noah and Tyrus will be asking for around the same money... Deng will prolly get around 10 mil or maybe a little bit more... Rose is going to be a superstar... So he might get somewhere around the max... Then theres the other role players such as Noc, Thabo, Gooden etc.... Are the Bulls really gonna play all those players all of that money?? Lets be realistic here, we are not keeping everyone. So we should trade Gordon and get something in return?? Another contract?? Guys, not many teams want Gordon because they have to build around him... You guys are making it sound so easy that we can get this player, or that player, or that other player....

At the very least we need to trade for an expiring contract and a 1st round pick (top 3 protected). There will be a boat load of teams (especially the Knicks) willing to make that kind of a deal.

In my opinion, i dont believe the knicks would be willing to do that... Trust me, the knicks want to get rid of contracts, not add some more... Furthermore, teams would rather have to pay a starter making 10 mil a year, not a bench player.... Its gonna be really hard finding a team that wants to pay 10 mil for a bench player, and also build around Gordon. Also, teams value their 1st round picks.

And one more comment. 19 mintues? Are you serious? You want to give Nocioni, Tyrus, & Thabo more minutes per game then our future franchise player? What a joke. I don't care if he dribbles the ball off his face every time down the court. I still want him playing 30+ mpg and truthfully I'd like him start every game and average 36 mpg the same way Chris Paul did as a rookie in all 78 games he played.

If your read it carefully, 19 minutes when the season starts.... 20+ after the all-star break... could be anywhere from 25 or even closer to around 30 mins. Eddog, Rose is still a young player who will need to learn a playbook, and needs to learn how to run a team in the pros. Rose will need to polish up quickly if he wants to get 20+ minutes. Playing the PG position in the NBA is not a peace of cake... Deron took a little bit to adjust and he had what, 3 years of college? Also, Rose has never played with any of the bulls players and needs to build some chemistry, and get a feel for everyone's game.... If kirk is here by the start of the season, he will be getting the majority of the minutes in the beginning, trust me... Lets not forget that Kirk is not that bad of a player...