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Wanne
post Feb 1 2008, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Feb 1 2008, 05:29 PM) *
I'm starting to think the exact same thing about this offseason...and I'm especially interested in what we might be able to get by packaging say, Gordon, the #10 pick or so, and maybe someone like Hinrich/Nocioni for salary reasons.

If this season stays true to form, then by my count, if we resign Gordon and Deng, we'll have 7 recent high draft picks on this roster, plus Smith, plus Wallace. (Hinrich, Gordon, Deng, Thabo, Tyrus, Noah, this year's pick). There's simply no way to divy up the minutes any more...we have to try to turn 2-3 of these guys into a higher level player. We have to move some depth in exchange for talent.


For who though...that's the $25,000 question. Who out there is a difference maker. Like I stated earlier I think with how the Wiz have played without Arenas they'll entertain offers for him. And quite honestly...the Heat are in rebuilding mode and depending on his health (and I've heard it's much worse than most people know) I think the Heat would entertain offers for Wade. Just what else is out there that would make a difference with this team? And another thing...is it worth giving up this years pick (and the Bulls should get a pretty decent one)...in what will be a VERY deep draft?!? Just don't see any difference makers out there right now worth giving up the pick (and a large package) to.
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post Feb 1 2008, 04:46 PM
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Gasol trade is a steal compare to what they got.We wouldnt have to give up any of our potential guys to get him if you really think about it.Give them an expiring contract a couple of throw ins and a draft pick.Pax needs to go!
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post Feb 1 2008, 05:18 PM
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Lol I hate John Paxson, nuff said.
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post Feb 1 2008, 05:26 PM
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What's next? Are the Lakers going to trade for Kidd and the Bulls act as a 3rd party to get the deal done? That's the only way this situation gets worse and the only way we get more screwed by Paxson's decisions or lack thereof.

I miss Tyson. But he's never coming back. If Paxson leaves the Bulls I won't be able to say the same thing about him.
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post Feb 1 2008, 06:21 PM
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i miss tyson too that was the worst move ever, but the way he is playing w/ the hornets we wont ever see him again. pax really needs to go he hasnt done anything right.
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post Feb 1 2008, 06:35 PM
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the TRUTH is that Gasol is exactly 0-8 in playoff games.

the TRUTH is that Gasol's teams were of a similar make up with quality role players (Miller, Stoudmire, battier) but no other star

the TRUTH is that Paxson made a better offer for KG than the Celtics did.

but...

the TRUTH is that Paxson could have EASILY beat the Lakers offer without gutting our team.
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post Feb 1 2008, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (sport1016 @ Feb 1 2008, 04:44 PM) *
but...

the TRUTH is that Paxson could have EASILY beat the Lakers offer without gutting our team.

But the question we need to ask Pax is...were the Grizzlies willing to take our offer for him even if we made a better offer? I.e. what were they asking for?
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post Feb 1 2008, 06:44 PM
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In my opinion this is the best thing that could of happened to the Bulls. Prevents John from bringing someone in who would never be a fit here and sure as hell wouldn't help us win anything. This is a happy day for me. headbang.gif
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post Feb 1 2008, 06:53 PM
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My prediction. (OK it's actually Edwin's)

The Lakers are going to trade Lamar Odom in a deal for Jason Kidd. Lakers have always wanted him, he's always wanted them.

It's going to happen.

C Bynum
PF Gasol
SF Walton
SG Bryant
PG Kidd

It's going to happen.
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post Feb 1 2008, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (Jeckle2000 @ Feb 1 2008, 04:53 PM) *
In my opinion this is the best thing that could of happened to the Bulls. Prevents John from bringing someone in who would never be a fit here and sure as hell wouldn't help us win anything. This is a happy day for me. headbang.gif

While he might not have been a good fit here...giving up basically nothing for a guy who could give you 20/10 is usually a pretty good move, which is why the Lakers made it. I think the problem most people are having is that if the Lakers could get him for nothing other than cap relief pretty much, why in the world couldn't we give them cap relief and one player to make it happen?
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post Feb 1 2008, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (Wanne @ Feb 1 2008, 04:55 PM) *
And another thing...is it worth giving up this years pick (and the Bulls should get a pretty decent one)...in what will be a VERY deep draft?!? Just don't see any difference makers out there right now worth giving up the pick (and a large package) to.

I'm choosing to avoid the whole Gasol thing because it just pisses me off, so I'll argue this...

How exactly is this a VERY deep draft? How many real impact players do you see in this draft? Maybe 5? Can the Bulls get an actual impact player if they end up around 8? I don't really see it, and that means it doesn't qualify as a really deep draft in my book. True, you've got a couple of wildcards with Arthur and Speights that are currently projected to go latter than they normally would, but it's also still quite early and not everyone is going to come out.

Plus as Balta and/or I have said a few times, as is we have virtually zero playing time for that younger regardless of position.
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post Feb 1 2008, 08:59 PM
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Truehoop has an interview with things from the Memphis side. See if you buy it.
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Wallace has long been a refreshingly candidly interview. He says, for instance, that Marc Gasol "has emerged as a real force in European basketball ... that I believe would have been a first-round pick this year."

On his three-headed point-guard situation with Mike Conley, Jr., Kyle Lowry, and Javaris Crittenton: "We're gonna lock these three guys in a room and see which two emerge, and then we'll trade somebody at some point."

He also adds that the 2008 pick is top-three protected and the 2010 pick is top-six.

TrueHoop reader Sean first let me know about this interview, and points out that if you believe what Wallace says about Marc Gasol, then essentially the Grizzlies got four first-rounders, and a mountain of cap space, for Pau Gasol.
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post Feb 1 2008, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Feb 1 2008, 09:13 PM) *
I'm choosing to avoid the whole Gasol thing because it just pisses me off, so I'll argue this...

How exactly is this a VERY deep draft? How many real impact players do you see in this draft? Maybe 5? Can the Bulls get an actual impact player if they end up around 8? I don't really see it, and that means it doesn't qualify as a really deep draft in my book. True, you've got a couple of wildcards with Arthur and Speights that are currently projected to go latter than they normally would, but it's also still quite early and not everyone is going to come out.

Plus as Balta and/or I have said a few times, as is we have virtually zero playing time for that younger regardless of position.


Well goodie for you and Balta. So for your condescending tone (which is pretty much a regular) here's some names for ya...

And with some one and dones from D1 in no order:

Beasley
Mayo
Rose
Gordon (who's a big wuss)
Maybe Love
Maybe Bayless
Maybe Donte Green
DeAndre Jordan
Darren Collison

And that doesn't include the Eurotrash that usually gets in the top 10 somewhere. Are these guys instant impact...maybe a handful...but it's a valuable pick and I'd still probably rather have anybody in the top ten instead of trading it for some lazyass eurodude who doesn't play defense worth a spiff. Whoopee...gasol scores 20/10 on a LAST PLACE TEAM!!!
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post Feb 1 2008, 09:46 PM
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A lot of those guys would be useful, but the issue we're harping on is...they're not that useful if they're #3 in the guard rotation behind Gordon and Sef and getting 5-10 minutes a game for their first 2 years.

I'm indifferent on Gasol. I don't think he'd be the answer to our problems. But the one thing I can say without a doubt is not going to work is standing pat, resigning Deng and Gordon to big contracts, drafting high again, and watching as Thabo, Noah, TT, and whoever we take with that top 10 pick wind up struggling for 10 minutes a game. At some point, we either have to move our vets to clear room for the kids, or we have to pair up a couple of the kids together and use them to acquire someone of even more value. The middle road we're on now is a sure fire path to failure. That's why all I want right now is an answer from Pax as to what he was actually offering.

By the time next season starts, Pax will have no choice but to make some sort of deal. Simply standing pat with this group and trying a new coach won't do it, there's too much potential value buried on the bench hardly playing.

Maybe we'll get insanely lucky and someone like the Mavs or Suns will decide that their window may be closing soon and they need an extra big man to play defense against Gasol and Bynum now that the Lakers have that potential pairing come playoff time.
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post Feb 1 2008, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE (Wanne @ Feb 1 2008, 09:27 PM) *
And that doesn't include the Eurotrash that usually gets in the top 10 somewhere.



hahahaha, that part made me lol!!
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