http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba-blog/andrei-k...ms-ar47278.html


My goo friend Steve told me about a rumor of a possible AK47 deal for Ben Wallace. So, I almost crapped my pants and had to look it up. I guess there are at least people writing about the two teams talking about the possibility. And while Wallace's contract is huge, AK47's is pretty damn big as well. Which is why I could see the Jazz being interested in such a deal. Come playoff time they could also use a big body to defend the 2 headed monsters on the Lakers & the 2 head monsters in Phoenix.

While AK47 is overpaid and usually a 3, I think that he can play the 4 pretty effectively. I don't think it makes us a lock to make the finals or conference finals this year but I think it almost assures us of at least the 6th seed which means no Detroit or Boston in the first round. I really like AK's game and he's still fairly young. This also gives us the option to trade either Nocioni or Deng should a good deal come along or we could trade Ben Gordon if we think Deng can play the 2.

If we didn't trade anyone, how would this lineup look? Can Deng play the 2? We'd be pretty tall and pretty damn good defensively with this lineup.

Hinrich (27 years old)/Thabo (soon to be 24)
Deng (soon to be 23 years old)/Gordon (soon to be 25)
AK47 (27 years old)/Nocioni (28 years old)
Tyrus (21 years old)/Smith (32 years old)
Noah (soon to be 23)

Anyway, if we can pull of a AK47 for Wallace deal I'd reconsider what I said about the Bull's being cheap and I'd rethink what kind of GM Paxson is. This trade would allow the Bulls to be a championship contender in the next 2-3 years or it would at least give them the flexibility to add the pieces to become a championship team. If Tyrus and Noah develop which all signs indicate that they are progressing in the right direction, this team could be very dangerous in the next couple of years. That's a team that I'd love to see.


Anyway, I just noticed that the other thread had some AK47 talk already. Can we stop posting new topics in existing topics. If the topic was just called trades I could see posting all types of trades in it. But the topic was about NY not Utah. So stop posting unrelated topics inside of other topics. I just wasted 20 minutes of my life because of that exact reason.

Its purely about money. Utah would save $21 million if they made the deal, which in their market, is huge.

Man i would do anything to get wallace out of here


but if we can get a player like ak for wallace do it

It's amazing how far Wallace has fallen off the map from a few years ago. Chandler or Curry would be so nice to have back.

Chandler I'll agree with, but I still want no part of Eddy Curry, and I think that trading him was the right move and I'm quite happy with the 2 young guys we got for him.

I would love to have Chandler back, but we have to understand that the growth we saw last season and continuing this season never would've happened under Skiles or Boylan. The offense that they run, plus the way that Byron Scott believes in him, makes him much more effective than our drive and kick game.

We wouldn't have beaten Miami last year without Ben. But we'd be much better long term with Tyson.

But on the other hand, we wouldn't have picked Noah in the draft, so who knows where we will wind up long run.

I think the Bulls would be more stupid to do this trade because AK47 is strictly a small forward. He has NO back to the basket game whatsoever. I'd rather do the New York trade because we get expirings and Q-Rich who is a great shooter compared to AK47 who can lose his confidence rather quickly and he becomes inefective.

I think you're moderately correct in that we'd be in a bit of trouble picking up yet another SF...but the one potential bright side is...picking up AK would give us a chance to move Deng. I don't know how much his injury/down season have hurt his trade value, but putting him at SF and trading Deng somewhere would open up a lot of options for us if we could find the right deal to move Lu in.

I think you're wrong on all accounts with this post. First, AK47 could put in 15/10 on a regular basis and plays great defense. Why, oh why, would you want Richardson who has never been very effective and two other throw ins when you could have AK47?

I think if AK were available this deal would be done, so I'm fine with doing the Knicks deal, but seriously, that pile of scrubs compared to AK isn't even close.

And yes, Q is a scrub.

Wow, I knew Richardson had fallen off a bit (and he wasn't all THAT good to start with), but 34.6% from the floor this year?! You might as well play blindfolded. That ain't helping anyone.

He's one of those guys that in a year or two you pick up when he's actually finished with his contract or is nearly so and hope that you can turn him in to something better than what the Knicks had in him. You don't trade for him at this point in his contract though, unless you're willing to pay the luxury tax.

Good god, this is scary...

Quentin Richardson 07/08 PER- 8.24
Adrian Griffin 07/08 PER- 8.95

AK-47 a small forward?

Is that why everyone always talks about his jump shot and his ability to create a shot off the dribble?

Nope. Everyone talks about him being on the trading block and unhappy because he's playing OUT OF POSITION in Utah.

He's not a small forward. He's a power forward. Otherwise everything would be a-ok in Utah-land. His best attributes are his ability to dominate a game with blocks, steals, and boards and provide hustle points around the basket or in transition. He has a reliable jump shot, but he doesn't handle very well. He doesn't slash to the rim.

If we could get him, he is immediately our starting pf. He's been an all-star as a full time pf...in the west! He led terrible Utah teams to the playoffs. We would also we THE BEST defensive team in the league next year:

Hinrich
Sef
Deng
AK47
Noah
-------imagine the pick and roll defense as well as the turnover forcing creating tons of transition opportunities

Bench:
Gordon (he'll end up signing the 1 year tender, it just feels like a done deal right now)
TT
Noc
Smith
Gray

I like.

Did you not see him in the playoffs last year? This guy has no confidence. I don't like the thought of trading for a guy who lacks confidence in himself and isn't mentally tough. He even threatened to return to Russia because he hated the NBA so much.. I don't want AK47 at all, no thank you, huh uh..