2 down.... 2 to go

The irony is without Kirk Hinrich, the rest of the Bulls are making tee times today.

amen

I'm not going to start questioning who the real fans are (b/c I'm probably the most die hard type fan out there) but I will challenge this post. Our best players are Gordon, Deng and Wallace. In a couple of years it will likely be Deng, Gordon, and Tyrus. Kirk is good but he's not our best player. He's more like 3rd. Anyway, I never said he doesn't have any game. I said he's never going to be a dominate star PG. He might make an all-star team or two. Just b/c he's on the olympic team doesn't mean spiff to me. Did we win in the olympics with him? He only made the team b/c they wanted a good 3 point shooting PG/SG and a character guy. Otherwise they would have taken someone else with more skill. Kirk is good but he's not $11 million good and he's not a franchise starting PG that's going to be a game changer every night. Or at least he hasn't shown that yet. He's had basically the same impact for 4 straight years.

Believe me, I want the guy to succeed and be a star (especially with that new contract) but I can't wait my whole life and I don't think he ever will be on that level. Maybe I'm wrong and I very well could be but that's just my opinion. He's definately not a star yet and I don't care what anyone says who believes otherwise.

Gordon and Deng have both shown more improvement on a year to year basis than Kirk has and both are younger than Kirk. The Bulls don't have a dominate post player and they don't have a dominate go to guy that demands the double team. That's why I think Kirk needs to be traded. However, if they can get that guy somehow in the draft, via trade, or free agency this summer then I think we can win championships with just a very solid PG b/c we'll have that missing link. But the guy they get has to be a beast down low or a legit superstar type player. That's been the whole basis of my suggesting he be traded. I want the Bulls to win while Wallace is still on the team so that means 3 years probably more like the next 2 b/c his skills will continue to diminish.

And as for sweeping the defending champions, we didn't do it with much help from your boy Kirk. It was Deng and Gordon that carried that series. Even Thabo played better D than Kirk on Wade. But anyway, that's just one series and even I don't make decision based on one series. I've felt this way about Kirk after watching his game for the past few years. I didn't just make up my mind after one game.

While I agree that Kirk isn't our best player, I also think that he needs to stay unless you could get a KG type player that makes you a top contender, and those deals are going to be really hard for them to pull of now with PJ's contract off the books. Most of those type of guys make $16 mil+, so you'd still need a lot more money added (plus for those type guys they'd still probably demand Tyrus)...

I agree with the original poster, Hinrich needs to go. Problem is the rest of the league sees the same thing in him as we do: hard working complimentary player who's not quick, can't create his own shot, is streaky with his shot, can't guard physical guards and simply isn't worth much unless Tyrus or Sefolosha come with him.

Meantime, you can't trade Gordon away either. While he is too short to guard anybody, he excels at providing instant offense off the bench and can be an excellent option in the 4th Q when paired with a low post scorer who can draw a double team.

No offense or anything, but you know nothing.

Now, I'll admit that I am totally biased considering that Kansas is my college team period. However, I just think we have other things to fix first. Primarily our low post game (a post-up scorer). If we have an opportunity to get a top-notch point guard I'd be all for it personally, but I wouldn't understand going after a Connelly or another small guard in the first round.

I hope you know that guy b/c that's the same type of spiff that people said I should stay away from. You don't need to criticize someone's post or views on a specific issue. Believe what you want but don't say someone knows nothing.

Hinrich is fine. He guards the other teams best guard all game and still had his 3rd straight double double. He is not one of the team's main scorers. That is Gordon and Deng. He does what he is asked to do. Gordon is a lot like Crawford - great pure shooter, but very little defense. Hinrich is not our problem. The problem is we don't have a true center, and no low post scorer. Hopefully we can solve both of those in the draft.

I have an idea. We trade Tyrus Thomas and Viktor Khryapa for Lamarcus Aldridge...1st team, All-NBA Rookie Lamarcus Aldridge.

Why so he can miss the playoffs with a heart problem?

He missed the season as a precaution. The syndrome he is mostly asymptomatic and the possibility of sudden cardiac death are less than a tenth of a percent.

Sorry.

When I see someone who says that Hinrich is:

-not quick(how many double teams did he split off of screens last night?)
-can't create his own shot(how many point guards are there that DO create their own shot? point guards are supposed to create shots for OTHERS)
-and can't guard physical guards(umm... he guards the likes of LeBron, Billups, and Wade with success and was picked for the US Olympic team because of his ability to defend)

I calls them like I sees them. He then proceeded to say that Gordon was only a force when he has a low post scorer... but he's never had a low post scorer in the NBA, right? Saying that Hinrich and Gordon are untradable is just a riciculous statement.

It was no offense intended, but they guy made a post with zero basketball knowledge included.

Im still on the trade Kirk and or Ben bandwagon. We could probably get a quality big for either of the two. If Tyrus had a point guard who could pass the ball like Conley, he would excel. Kirk is a shoot first point guard which doesn't mesh well with a player like Tyrus.

As for Gordon, he is the definition of inconsistent which is why he most likely will be the one gone this offseason for a bigger 2 or hopefully a 4.