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GreatScott82
post Oct 1 2007, 02:23 PM
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http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=48730

Interesing stuff. Maybe Pax should hold off on signing Gordon to see how he does during his contract year. If he does really well, it can increase the chance of getting Kobe in December. If we can acquire Kobe for just Gordon, Noc, Smith and Sefolosha, it would be an absolute steal. Im a fine with our team as of now? Yea im fine with it and i still think we can go far, but if we can get Kobe and still keep Deng, Hinrich, Wallace, and Thomas would would be a very dominate team heading toward the playoffs. The one downside is our bench would be significantly weaker.
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post Oct 1 2007, 03:37 PM
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I think the other side of that token could be the contract size. If you sign little Ben to a contract soon, then next year, won't his salary count as part of what is needed to match Kobe's? If you're trying to come up with $18 million, it's a lot easier if you have an $11 million piece to work with.
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post Oct 1 2007, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Oct 1 2007, 03:32 PM) *
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=48730

Interesing stuff. Maybe Pax should hold off on signing Gordon to see how he does during his contract year. If he does really well, it can increase the chance of getting Kobe in December. If we can acquire Kobe for just Gordon, Noc, Smith and Sefolosha, it would be an absolute steal. Im a fine with our team as of now? Yea im fine with it and i still think we can go far, but if we can get Kobe and still keep Deng, Hinrich, Wallace, and Thomas would would be a very dominate team heading toward the playoffs. The one downside is our bench would be significantly weaker.


I know you'll need some substantial ammo to land Kobe...but I really rather not give up Thabo. I'd rather throw in a couple of draft picks. I'd think any deal would include Noah though...but what do I know.
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post Oct 2 2007, 01:05 AM
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the thing i agree with most in the article is that if gordon gets an extension to consider it a "stamp of approval" on the current lineup.

I still think pax doesnt see BG long term as a starting SG.
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post Oct 2 2007, 07:46 AM
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Damn it. I really don't want to hear months of the Kobe crap. We have our squad, lets go play.
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post Oct 2 2007, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Oct 2 2007, 08:55 AM) *
Damn it. I really don't want to hear months of the Kobe crap. We have our squad, lets go play.


I could not agree with you more on this. I am so tired of these rumors and speculation in regards to Kobe coming to Chicago. I personally think that he would be more of a hardship versus someone who would be beneficial to this team. Let's see how the season starts and if Pax needs to make some sort of move to improve us some more, do it before the trade deadline.
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post Oct 2 2007, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Oct 2 2007, 06:55 AM) *
Damn it. I really don't want to hear months of the Kobe crap. We have our squad, lets go play.

Kobe showed up for the Lakers. Kobe is not holding out. Kobe is not getting traded.
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post Oct 2 2007, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Oct 2 2007, 10:53 AM) *
Kobe showed up for the Lakers. Kobe is not holding out. Kobe is not getting traded.


Good. I like this team...A LOT...where it's at right now and doing any type of trade like this would really cut into the depth of it. I'm VERY excited about this team this year.
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post Oct 2 2007, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Oct 1 2007, 03:32 PM) *
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=48730

Interesing stuff. Maybe Pax should hold off on signing Gordon to see how he does during his contract year. If he does really well, it can increase the chance of getting Kobe in December. If we can acquire Kobe for just Gordon, Noc, Smith and Sefolosha, it would be an absolute steal. Im a fine with our team as of now? Yea im fine with it and i still think we can go far, but if we can get Kobe and still keep Deng, Hinrich, Wallace, and Thomas would would be a very dominate team heading toward the playoffs. The one downside is our bench would be significantly weaker.


Yeah thats our best case scenario in any Kobe deal IMO. Were losing alot of depth though from our bench which could prove costly, but then again were adding ppg and a superstar.
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post Oct 3 2007, 07:38 AM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Oct 2 2007, 10:53 AM) *
Kobe showed up for the Lakers. Kobe is not holding out. Kobe is not getting traded.


Tell that to the f@#$ing reporters who keep dredging this spiff up!
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post Oct 3 2007, 10:13 AM
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I think if the Lakers have a horrible start to the season Kobe might be traded by the deadline. Something like Gordon, Nocioni, and Thabo would probably work.
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post Oct 3 2007, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE (Schalke @ Oct 3 2007, 09:22 AM) *
I think if the Lakers have a horrible start to the season Kobe might be traded by the deadline. Something like Gordon, Nocioni, and Thabo would probably work.

No, it wouldn't.
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post Oct 3 2007, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Oct 3 2007, 10:50 AM) *

whoops, forgot to add Smith in there.

Smith
Gordon
Noc
Sefolosha or Khryapa or whatever else scrub it takes.

for

Kobe
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post Oct 5 2007, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (Schalke @ Oct 3 2007, 03:17 PM) *
whoops, forgot to add Smith in there.

Smith
Gordon
Noc
Sefolosha or Khryapa or whatever else scrub it takes.

for

Kobe


NO WAY Pax messes with the chemistry of this team "this" year. Maybe if the Bulls fizzle in the playoffs again...but if they show improvement and play hard...I just can't see Pax making a major move like Kobe...especially if it means depleting his depth. If this team stay healthy...there's no reason they shouldn't have a great shot at taking the East this year.

As for Gordon...he's so damn dedicated and such a team player...I'd have such a hard time trading this guy. Skiles recently came out and said the Ben had one of the most impressive off-seasons, in terms of work and dedication he'd ever seen. Hope it translates to the court.

I think the biggest thing with this team is not so much seeing any improvement in Deng or Gordon...I think they're pretty much were they're gonna be (nothing ultra-spectacular...but very good)...but the improvement of Tyrus and Thabo. Those guys were pretty much one of the strongest rookie combos in the league last year. Ty really came into his own...and Thabo was a HUGE surprise. If Joe Smith can stay healthy (reports of knee swelling already which kinda concerns me)...he'll be a welcome addition.
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post Oct 6 2007, 10:56 AM
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Well sure a move like that would deplete our depth, but I'd rather be one role player way from a championship next year, then one superstar away this year. Yes giving up Gordon would be hard, but we're getting Kobe, arguably the best player in the world. There's not one player on our team that I wouldn't give up for Kobe.

Tyrus started coming into his own in the second half of last year, but he's still got a ways to go. And I don't know what huge surprise Thabo was to you, other than the fact that he was horrible. For a lottery pick who's already played 3 or 4 years of professional basketball, I'd expect a little better than what he showed.
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