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post Jul 1 2012, 09:50 AM
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Hearing Rockets prepared to offer Omer Asik in the $8 million range annually. trib.in/LNlL23

The most talked about offer so far is Houston offering a deal that is 2 years at $5M/per, then the next 2 years at $11M/per

Sayonara, if you ask me. Hopefully we can do a sign and trade but we'll have to beware of the bluff
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post Jul 2 2012, 07:57 AM
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In case anyone's curious about the random cap rule that forced the Rockets to structure the deal like this, here you go:
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Before 2005 it was sometimes possible to sign restricted free agents to offer sheets their original teams couldn't match. This happened when a player was an Early Bird or Non-Bird free agent (see question number 25) and the team didn't have enough cap room to match a sufficiently large offer. For example, Gilbert Arenas was Golden State's second round draft pick in 2001, and became an Early Bird free agent in 2003. Golden State could only match an offer sheet (or sign Arenas directly) for up to the amount of the Early Bird exception, which was about $4.9 million at the time. Washington signed Arenas to an offer sheet with a starting salary of about $8.5 million, which Golden State was powerless to match.

This loophole was addressed starting with the 2005 CBA (although not closed completely -- see below). Teams are now limited in the salary they can offer in an offer sheet to a restricted free agent with one or two years in the league. The first-year salary in the offer sheet cannot be greater than the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (see question number 25). Limiting the first-year salary in this way enables the player's original team to match the offer sheet by using the Early Bird exception (if applicable -- see question number 25), or Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (provided they have it and haven't used it already)1.

The second-year salary in such an offer sheet is limited to the standard 4.5% raise. The third-year salary can jump considerably -- it is allowed to be as high as it would have been had the first-year salary not been limited by this rule to the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception2. The salary in the fourth season may increase (or decrease) by up to 4.1% of the salary in the third season. The offer sheet can only contain the large jump in the third season if it provides the highest salary allowed in the first two seasons, it is fully guaranteed, and it contains no bonuses of any kind.

If the raise in the third season exceeds the standard raise (4.5% of the salary in the first season of the contract), then an additional restriction exists. In order to determine how large the offer can be, the team doesn't just have to fit the first-year salary under the cap. Instead, they must fit the average salary in the entire contract under the cap. So a team $8 million under the cap is limited to offering a total of $24 million over three years, or $32 million over four years. If the offer sheet does not contain a third-season raise larger than 4.5% of the first-season salary, then they only have to fit the first season salary under the cap.

Putting this all together, if a team that is $9 million under the cap in 2011-12 wants to submit a four-year offer sheet, and wants to provide a large raise in the third season, they can offer a total of $36 million over four years. The first-year salary is limited to the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, or $5 million. The second-year salary will be $5.225 million (4.5% raise). This leaves $25.775 million to be distributed over the final two seasons of the contract, with a 4.1% raise from year three to year four.
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post Jul 2 2012, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 2 2012, 09:57 AM) *
In case anyone's curious about the random cap rule that forced the Rockets to structure the deal like this, here you go:

That's actually really helpful. Thanks.
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- Jake   Rockets sign Asik to offer sheet, 3/$25   Jul 1 2012, 09:50 AM
- - 2nd_city_saint787   QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 1 2012, 10:50 AM) K.C J...   Jul 1 2012, 11:25 AM
- - Balta1701-B   You really hate to lose Asik for nothing.   Jul 1 2012, 11:43 AM
- - 2nd_city_saint787   QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 1 2012, 12...   Jul 1 2012, 11:54 AM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   QUOTE Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA Rock...   Jul 1 2012, 06:00 PM
- - Jake   Sign and trade please   Jul 1 2012, 07:40 PM
|- - Quinarvy   QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 1 2012, 08:40 PM) Sign ...   Jul 1 2012, 08:19 PM
|- - Jake   QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 1 2012, 08:19 PM) C...   Jul 1 2012, 09:33 PM
- - 2nd_city_saint787   He's gonna be making 15 mill at one point?? yo...   Jul 1 2012, 08:33 PM
- - Quinarvy   Nevermind. Since he hasn't signed it yet (can...   Jul 2 2012, 01:56 AM
- - madisonsmadhouse   If Bulls match, which Gar Forman has consistently ...   Jul 2 2012, 07:03 AM
|- - Jake   QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jul 2 2012, 07...   Jul 3 2012, 01:34 PM
|- - madisonsmadhouse   QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 3 2012, 02:34 PM) I...   Jul 5 2012, 08:09 AM
|- - Jake   QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jul 5 2012, 08...   Jul 5 2012, 09:46 AM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 5 2012, 10:46 AM) Exact...   Jul 5 2012, 10:50 AM
|- - rockren   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 5 2012, 11:50 AM)...   Jul 5 2012, 12:27 PM
- - Steve9347   Just let him go, please.   Jul 2 2012, 07:56 AM
- - Balta1701-B   In case anyone's curious about the random cap ...   Jul 2 2012, 07:57 AM
|- - dasox24   QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 2 2012, 09...   Jul 2 2012, 08:07 AM
- - Quinarvy   The problem is, the Bulls don't have a dynamic...   Jul 5 2012, 05:01 PM
|- - rockren   QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 5 2012, 06:01 PM) T...   Jul 5 2012, 05:40 PM
|- - Quinarvy   QUOTE (rockren @ Jul 5 2012, 06:40 PM) I ...   Jul 5 2012, 05:43 PM
|- - rockren   QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 5 2012, 06:43 PM) T...   Jul 5 2012, 09:20 PM
- - Jake   Boozer doesn't get nearly the touches that he ...   Jul 5 2012, 10:35 PM
|- - rockren   QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 5 2012, 11:35 PM) Booze...   Jul 6 2012, 11:28 AM
- - eddog2   Boozer sucks. End of story. And yes it took me r...   Jul 6 2012, 11:36 AM
- - 2nd_city_saint787   Boozer is what he is, he doesnt suck nor is he rea...   Jul 6 2012, 03:59 PM
- - Jake   Again, good luck in your "finding a PF that w...   Jul 6 2012, 09:45 PM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 6 2012, 10:45 PM) Again...   Jul 6 2012, 11:33 PM
|- - Jake   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 6 2012, 11:33 PM)...   Jul 7 2012, 07:55 AM
- - 2nd_city_saint787   I'm gonna agree with Jake here. He took 2 less...   Jul 7 2012, 10:43 AM
- - Jake   I do think this is his last year as a Bull, barrin...   Jul 7 2012, 11:15 AM
|- - Balta1701-B   QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 7 2012, 01:15 PM) I do ...   Jul 7 2012, 12:00 PM
|- - Wanne   QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 7 2012, 12...   Jul 7 2012, 01:31 PM
- - 2nd_city_saint787   I kinda like that idea....correct me if im wrong, ...   Jul 7 2012, 01:49 PM
|- - Balta1701-B   QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jul 7 2012, 03...   Jul 7 2012, 02:21 PM
|- - Wanne   QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 7 2012, 02...   Jul 7 2012, 03:08 PM
|- - Balta1701-B   QUOTE (Wanne @ Jul 7 2012, 05:08 PM) but ...   Jul 7 2012, 03:25 PM
- - Balta1701-B   Rockets still haven't finalized their offer sh...   Jul 13 2012, 07:34 AM
|- - Jake   QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 13 2012, 07...   Jul 13 2012, 08:48 AM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 13 2012, 09:48 AM) Do y...   Jul 13 2012, 09:10 AM
- - Balta1701-B   Rick Bucher says Bulls will match Asik if they eve...   Jul 13 2012, 11:35 AM
|- - Jake   QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 13 2012, 11...   Jul 14 2012, 12:03 AM
|- - rockren   QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 13 2012, 12...   Jul 14 2012, 03:50 PM
- - Jake   If they were to match, this would be a critical po...   Jul 14 2012, 04:30 PM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 14 2012, 05:30 PM) If t...   Jul 14 2012, 06:21 PM
- - madisonsmadhouse   If the Knicks decline to match Lin, I wonder what ...   Jul 16 2012, 07:26 AM
|- - Jake   QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jul 16 2012, 07...   Jul 16 2012, 09:18 AM
- - Jake   Knicks do not match Lin. Lin is a Rocket. No off...   Jul 17 2012, 03:08 PM
- - madisonsmadhouse   Jonathan Feigen ‏@Jonathan_Feigen Once it is...   Jul 18 2012, 07:44 AM
|- - Jake   QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jul 18 2012, 07...   Jul 18 2012, 10:39 AM
|- - Quinarvy   QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 18 2012, 11:39 AM) Hold...   Jul 18 2012, 12:59 PM
- - 2nd_city_saint787   Calling it right now, Asik for E'twuan Moore a...   Jul 20 2012, 09:06 PM
|- - Quinarvy   QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jul 20 2012, 10...   Jul 21 2012, 08:37 AM
- - 2nd_city_saint787   QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 21 2012, 09:37 AM) ...   Jul 21 2012, 12:04 PM
|- - Quinarvy   QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jul 21 2012, 01...   Jul 21 2012, 12:48 PM
- - 2nd_city_saint787   QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 21 2012, 01:48 PM) ...   Jul 21 2012, 12:55 PM
|- - Quinarvy   QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jul 21 2012, 01...   Jul 21 2012, 02:41 PM
|- - madisonsmadhouse   QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 21 2012, 03:41 PM) ...   Jul 27 2012, 09:34 AM
- - 2nd_city_saint787   QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 21 2012, 03:41 PM) ...   Jul 21 2012, 03:22 PM


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