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Posted by: SoxFan1 Apr 12 2007, 11:02 PM

Didn't see mention of this anywhere, and I thought it was quite interesting:

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Warriors' Richardson hopes to be traded

Tuesday, Mar 27, 2007 11:52 am EDT

Jason Richardson is leaving hints that given their infatuation with Monta Ellis, Richardson will be the one traded by the Golden State Warriors after the season. Richardson is telling friends he's hoping for a trade to the Detroit Pistons or Chicago Bulls.

Source: Chicago Tribune


Interesting...

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Apr 12 2007, 11:12 PM

Very interesting, I wonder what the asking price would be. If it isn't ridiculous, sign me up. He has some serious talent and can be a dangerous scorer. My only gripes about him are his shot selection and his free throw shooting. He'd be very dangerous if he attacked the basket more, I have no idea why he takes so many 3's (more attempts per game than Gordon blink.gif )...

Posted by: BV1998 Apr 13 2007, 12:00 AM

getting jason richardson would be nice but I wouldn't want to break up the chemistry of this team. They are really starting to click.

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Apr 13 2007, 07:49 AM

There must be a Michigan State/SCott Skiles connection there, because you don't here many players say they want to be traded here, post-Jordan.

Posted by: rangercal Apr 13 2007, 08:22 AM

QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Apr 13 2007, 01:42 PM) *
There must be a Michigan State/SCott Skiles connection there, because you don't here many players say they want to be traded here, post-Jordan.

That's not the case. Post Krause, everything has changed.

Posted by: soxfan3530 Apr 13 2007, 09:22 AM

Would like him but another guard? We have far more pressing issues.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Apr 13 2007, 10:15 AM

What is his contract like?

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Apr 13 2007, 10:17 AM

QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Apr 13 2007, 10:15 AM) *
Would like him but another guard? We have far more pressing issues.


That's pretty much how I feel about it. With the scoring we have in the backcourt, it wouldn't help that much because you would either be taking minutes from Ben or Kirk. If Richardson was a PF or C, we could talk.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Apr 13 2007, 10:58 AM

QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Apr 13 2007, 09:10 AM) *
That's pretty much how I feel about it. With the scoring we have in the backcourt, it wouldn't help that much because you would either be taking minutes from Ben or Kirk. If Richardson was a PF or C, we could talk.

There's always the question of what the price is and what the return would be. If the price for Richardson is rock-bottom because he's demanded a trade & his team is going to oblige, that gives us an extra guard. But, there always seems to be a solid demand for Ben Gordon on the trade market these days, and he is a valuable piece that could be used to fill in that PF/C hole we keep trying to fix.

Probably not the best idea in the world, but if it comes down to it where we have no other options this offseason for filling in that PF/C slot (which honestly shouldn't be a problem with the draft picks, cap space, and tradeable pieces we have) it's at least a non-terrible backup idea..

Posted by: DrunkBomber Apr 13 2007, 11:30 AM

Ya, the only way I would want any part of this is he was dirt cheap. It would be nice to have a scorer that CAN attack the basket, when hes not chucking 3's but our needs are so much more for a big that it might just tie up money and a roster spot.

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Apr 13 2007, 11:32 AM

QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Apr 13 2007, 11:51 AM) *
There's always the question of what the price is and what the return would be. If the price for Richardson is rock-bottom because he's demanded a trade & his team is going to oblige, that gives us an extra guard. But, there always seems to be a solid demand for Ben Gordon on the trade market these days, and he is a valuable piece that could be used to fill in that PF/C hole we keep trying to fix.

Probably not the best idea in the world, but if it comes down to it where we have no other options this offseason for filling in that PF/C slot (which honestly shouldn't be a problem with the draft picks, cap space, and tradeable pieces we have) it's at least a non-terrible backup idea..


The NBA salary cap pretty much kills any type of bargain that you could get. Because of salary considerations, you would have to include certian players, which would pretty much insure that this would pretty much be a sideways move at best. Like I said, if it were a big man, it would be different because our production is so low there, and we have other guards who could step up in minutes without hurting that production.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Apr 13 2007, 12:35 PM

After checking it out, here's Richardson's contract the next 5 years:

Jason Richardson
$10,000,000

$11,111,111

$12,222,222

$13,333,333

$14,444,444

None of them option years.

The Bulls may well be far enough under the cap to take him on with a limited cost to us, what with Sweetney and PJ's contracts having expired (the Bulls do still have some maneuvering room this offseason because of those 2, until Gordon and Deng are resigned), but that Contract would be quite the albatross when stuck in with the rest of our guys who are about to get paid.

And, it goes the wrong way - up towards the end instead of down, like the deals we've signed with Wallace and Hinrich (pay them high in the seasons where we have cap space to free up more room @ the back end). So it would hurt Paxson's plans for how to afford all our young guys.

With that detail...no thanks.

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Apr 13 2007, 01:13 PM

Oops, that contract is a lot uglier than I thought. blink.gif

Posted by: soxfan3530 Apr 13 2007, 01:45 PM

Yeah pass on that one.

Posted by: steve9347 Apr 13 2007, 01:59 PM

No thanks.

I'd prefer the shots went to Gordon/Deng. Richardson is not needed...

now if he played center and could score, that'd be a different story.

Posted by: DrunkBomber Apr 13 2007, 02:01 PM

Some team is gonna really overpay for this guy...have fun

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Apr 13 2007, 06:39 PM

Gordon for Richardson plus there first round pick sounds good to me?

Posted by: Balta1701-B Apr 13 2007, 09:03 PM

QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Apr 13 2007, 05:32 PM) *
Gordon for Richardson plus there first round pick sounds good to me?

With that contract? Only if someone is willing to give us a significantly higher first round pick in exchange for our pick and Golden State's pick. I mean, if it brought us a #3-#4 pick, maybe, but I really don't think we get better by picking up Richardson's contract and another pick in the middle of this draft.

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Apr 14 2007, 10:12 AM

QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Apr 13 2007, 09:56 PM) *
With that contract? Only if someone is willing to give us a significantly higher first round pick in exchange for our pick and Golden State's pick. I mean, if it brought us a #3-#4 pick, maybe, but I really don't think we get better by picking up Richardson's contract and another pick in the middle of this draft.


If he really wanted out of GS, maybe he'd take a pay cut to come here? huh.gif

Posted by: Balta1701-B Apr 14 2007, 03:29 PM

QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Apr 14 2007, 09:05 AM) *
If he really wanted out of GS, maybe he'd take a pay cut to come here? huh.gif

If this were baseball the union wouldn't allow it. I don't know of any examples of a guy in the NBA renegotiating his contract willingly like that...the closest I can come is the "Allan Houston" rule that allowed teams to cut a guy without paying the luxury tax.

Posted by: DrunkBomber Apr 15 2007, 09:43 AM

QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Apr 13 2007, 07:32 PM) *
Gordon for Richardson plus there first round pick sounds good to me?

You would rather have Richardson than Gordon?

I definitely wouldnt be a fan of that move.

Posted by: The Dude Abides Apr 15 2007, 09:49 AM

I like jason richardson, but at what price and who's mins is he taking away? He is an upgrade over gordon as far as size, but no way I make a trade for him to start over gordon.

We have 1 major need...low post scoring!!!! Thabo is coming along nicely as a tall defensive sg and Gordon will still improve. He is our clutch go to guy and has really come through for us this year. I think Deng and Gordon make a good 1-2 punch...Once we add a legit low post threat, it will open things up even more for them and make this team a contender.

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