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ZoomSlowik
post Aug 14 2012, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Aug 14 2012, 12:37 PM) *
He said something along the lines of, I'm gonna see how comfortable I am in LA then decide between LA and Brooklyn. IMO thats something a player in a new city should never bring up, and would annoy the hell out of me if I was an LA fan/he came to the Bulls.

Furthermore hasn't he made it fairly clear Chicago is not a place he wants to play long term, so chances are he'd be here the one year our other superstar is hurt....Whats the point??

Ok clearing $$$ might be a valid point, but getting rid of Noah is really gonna hurt the team IMO. I'd much rather keep Noah, trade Deng, amnesty Boozer, and sign a SG next year than lose Noah(plus whatever other pieces) and Howard, and be left with Rose, Boozer, and Deng....

I'd really hate to lose Noah for what would basically be cap relief, esp. considering he's working with Kareem this offseason and I'd hate to see any kind of progression he has in a different uni.


Brooklyn has no cap space. The only way he could go to the Nets is if the Lakers sign-and-trade him there, which has about as much of a chance of happening as me spending the night with Kate Upton.

Pretty much any attractive location this off-season is going to be capped out.

And you have way too much faith in a guy working out this off-season. Noah is hardly the only guy trying to get better.
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post Aug 14 2012, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 14 2012, 12:06 PM) *
Brooklyn has no cap space. The only way he could go to the Nets is if the Lakers sign-and-trade him there, which has about as much of a chance of happening as me spending the night with Kate Upton.

Pretty much any attractive location this off-season is going to be capped out.

And you have way too much faith in a guy working out this off-season. Noah is hardly the only guy trying to get better.


Once again, like the Rus/Love thread, I'm going off what the player said.

How many of those players are working with one of the GOATs??

Yes, I have a lot of faith in Noah improving his game. He may not be Dwight Howard good but I think he can be Andrew Bynum good...Top 3 C in the NBA....I'm predicting at least 15/10 next year.
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post Aug 14 2012, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Aug 14 2012, 01:43 PM) *
Once again, like the Rus/Love thread, I'm going off what the player said.

How many of those players are working with one of the GOATs??

Yes, I have a lot of faith in Noah improving his game. He may not be Dwight Howard good but I think he can be Andrew Bynum good...Top 3 C in the NBA....I'm predicting at least 15/10 next year.


He said he wouldn't sign an extension, which makes financial sense because of the stupid CBA rules that give them a disincentive to do so. Much like Deron Williams, that doesn't mean he's leaving.

Pretty much all of these guys work out with someone that knows what they're doing at some point in their career.

You probably shouldn't expect a guy that has been in the league for years and still has a jumper that spins sideways to suddenly develop a good offensive game.
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post Aug 14 2012, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 14 2012, 12:45 PM) *
He said he wouldn't sign an extension, which makes financial sense because of the stupid CBA rules that give them a disincentive to do so. Much like Deron Williams, that doesn't mean he's leaving.

Pretty much all of these guys work out with someone that knows what they're doing at some point in their career.

You probably shouldn't expect a guy that has been in the league for years and still has a jumper that spins sideways to suddenly develop a good offensive game.


Well when one of the true GOATs say he has the ability to be a monster if he got a chance to work with him, I'm gonna expect at least some kind of boost in his offensive game until proven otherwise.

Apparently hes doing yoga now too, not sure how that'd translate to playin ball but I'm sure it won't hurt.
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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Aug 14 2012, 01:37 PM) *
He said something along the lines of, I'm gonna see how comfortable I am in LA then decide between LA and Brooklyn. IMO thats something a player in a new city should never bring up, and would annoy the hell out of me if I was an LA fan/he came to the Bulls.

Brooklyn really has virtually no way to genuinely be a threat to sign him now, and in order to trade for him, the Lakers would have to take back $20 million worth of contracts. The Nets will only have 1 big deal that expires after 2013-2014, and that's Kris Humprhies at $12 million, so the Lakers would need to actually want to take on someone like Lopez or Gerald Wallace long term...or find someone else to take on those deals without any enticement.

He can say how much he wants to go to Brooklyn all he wants. After they extended Lopez it became virtually impossible.
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post Aug 14 2012, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Aug 14 2012, 01:10 PM) *
Brooklyn really has virtually no way to genuinely be a threat to sign him now, and in order to trade for him, the Lakers would have to take back $20 million worth of contracts. The Nets will only have 1 big deal that expires after 2013-2014, and that's Kris Humprhies at $12 million, so the Lakers would need to actually want to take on someone like Lopez or Gerald Wallace long term...or find someone else to take on those deals without any enticement.

He can say how much he wants to go to Brooklyn all he wants. After they extended Lopez it became virtually impossible.


If Brook Lopez returns to form it wouldn't be a bad return. Unless OKC doesn't resign Ibaka, there are no good Cs on the market so I'd take Lopez over no C at all. I guess the same could be said in the Bulls situation should they have got D12.

Noah >>> Lopez
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post Aug 14 2012, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Aug 14 2012, 02:31 PM) *
If Brook Lopez returns to form it wouldn't be a bad return. Unless OKC doesn't resign Ibaka, there are no good Cs on the market so I'd take Lopez over no C at all. I guess the same could be said in the Bulls situation should they have got D12.

Noah >>> Lopez


The Lakers aren't dumb. They know the Nets aren't a threat to get Dwight unless they do Brooklyn a huge favor. They know that they're in a good situation because Dwight would have to sacrifice more money and more years and leave an organization with championship potential in a warm climate and a major market.

Is he really going to do that to play for the Rockets or Hawks? The odds are clearly in LA's favor. Brooklyn and Dallas were the other teams on his list, and neither of them are going to have the space to sign him out-right (well, Brooklyn clearly not, Dallas likely not once the numbers come in for their new additions). They're not going to give that up to take Brook Lopez's awful contract. If they were really worried about it, they'd have kept Andrew Bynum, who was arguably the 2nd best center in the league last year.

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post Aug 14 2012, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Aug 14 2012, 02:04 PM) *
Well when one of the true GOATs say he has the ability to be a monster if he got a chance to work with him, I'm gonna expect at least some kind of boost in his offensive game until proven otherwise.

Apparently hes doing yoga now too, not sure how that'd translate to playin ball but I'm sure it won't hurt.


And Michael Jordan thought taking Adam Morrison over Brandon Roy and Rudy Gay was a good idea. Being an elite player doesn't necessarily mean you can coach or evaluate talent.

I'd temper your expectations.
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post Aug 14 2012, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 14 2012, 02:34 PM) *
And Michael Jordan thought taking Adam Morrison over Brandon Roy and Rudy Gay was a good idea. Being an elite player doesn't necessarily mean you can coach or evaluate talent.

I'd temper your expectations.


Did MJ work with him or is this just based on the fact that he picked the guy?

Evaluating a guy out of college, esp. a smaller school like Gonzaga is a lot harder than evaluating a guy who has been in the league for several years.

15/10 isn't a lofty expectation to have, thats what 2 more FGs a game....I mean I'm not expecting him to be the 2nd coming of Kareem or anything, I just believe he'll be better.
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