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Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Dec 2 2006, 08:48 PM

Updated New York Knicks Current Record: 15-21

Posted by: Chisoxfn Dec 2 2006, 09:55 PM

Good idea. I think we had a Knicks watch last year as well. Its nice to see that after we took care of them we finally have a better record than the Knicks.

Posted by: WHarris1 Dec 2 2006, 09:55 PM

Lost a close one to the Raptors tonight, w00t

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Dec 2 2006, 10:34 PM

Thanks Ill just keep updating there record so its easy to find. Ill keep editing the first post and make a post saying updated.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Dec 3 2006, 07:25 PM

By winning percentage:

Charlotte 4 12 .250
Memphis 4 12 .250
New York 6 13 .316
Portland 6 11 .353
Boston 5 10 .333

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Dec 4 2006, 01:42 AM

Need to destroy a franchise? There is a Thomas for that.

Posted by: southsider2k5 Dec 4 2006, 08:47 AM

Hopefully this thread isn't a jinx, but hey, any thread that is Anti_knicks is a friend of mine

Posted by: Balta1701-B Dec 4 2006, 11:37 AM

We still wound up with the 2nd pick last year, and I was running one of these threads back then.

Posted by: DrunkBomber Dec 4 2006, 05:10 PM

I hope they faulter enough to put us in a situation to try to get Oden. Man that kid seems like he is gonna be something special.

Posted by: Jordan4life_2006 Dec 4 2006, 09:14 PM

He will be, and he's obviously the big prize of next year's draft, but this draft is plenty deep. I just hope we can get a top 5 (I'd cream myself if we can land a top 3) pick.

Oh, and the Knicks won tonight.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Dec 5 2006, 12:46 AM

LOL... How about a League...Anybody remember his CBA days???
He's like basketballs answer to Donald Trump....just without the business skills.... or the patented Uuuuge Trumptastic Comb ova!!!
Isiah is an ******* plain and simple and I can't help loving his failures because of how he did Jordan in that first All-Star game. I know he's competitive as hell and this must be killing him.... Karma is a beach Ike!!!!

Posted by: southsider2k5 Dec 5 2006, 08:19 AM

Even if we don't get Oden, we have a shot at a couple of offensive big men to balance out this line up.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Dec 5 2006, 10:50 AM

reinforcements are on the way with jefferies getting healthy... and Curry is knocking down 20 points a game llike he doesn't have a bum ticker... the lotto pick might not be a lcok...

Posted by: southsider2k5 Dec 5 2006, 10:56 AM

Its early, and the in-fighting between the egos hasn't really gotten going yet.

Posted by: iWiN4PreP Dec 5 2006, 03:20 PM

haha nice post.
i really hope we get a nice draft pick from them

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Dec 5 2006, 04:17 PM

-Updated- 7-13

Posted by: chilord Dec 5 2006, 07:26 PM

I love to watch those 'L's pile up... is it time for the annual Knicks 10+ game losing streak yet?

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Dec 6 2006, 10:21 PM

-UPDATED- They lossed to the Wizards tonight!

Posted by: southsider2k5 Dec 7 2006, 11:38 AM

Knicks forward Mo Taylor was suspsended 5 games by the NBA for violating the drug policy...

Posted by: RME JICO Dec 10 2006, 04:31 AM

They beat Milwaukee last night, and are currently the 6th worst team in the NBA. The crazy thing is they are only 0.5 out of first place in their division.

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Dec 10 2006, 10:54 AM

-Updated- 8-14

Posted by: RME JICO Dec 12 2006, 05:34 AM

-Updated- (8-15)

Current Rank
1. Memphis 5-16
2. Philadelphia 5-15
3. Charlotte 5-15
4. Toronto 7-14
5. NY Knicks 8-15
6. Boston 7-13

Posted by: DrunkBomber Dec 12 2006, 12:28 PM

COme on Knicks, keep on losing

Posted by: KevHead0881 Dec 12 2006, 01:34 PM

It'll be a sad day when Isaiah is canned at the end of this season.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Dec 12 2006, 03:47 PM

Ok, so we need Charlotte and Philly to decide to deal with each other on Iverson, making each team just a little bit better, and we need the Grizzlies to get Gasol back.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Dec 13 2006, 09:01 PM

I dunno guys... the way Curry and Lee are playing... we might not even get a lotto pick

Posted by: DrunkBomber Dec 14 2006, 01:21 PM

I saw today that Isiah wants to have his buddy Magic Johnson talk to Starbury to try and make him play better.

Posted by: southsider2k5 Dec 14 2006, 01:43 PM

Nice. I guess the gazillion dollar paycheck and playing on the grandest stage in the world isn't enough for the poor guy. I am sure talking to magic will fix all of that...

Posted by: WHarris1 Dec 14 2006, 03:57 PM

Eddy Curry is finally playing some damn ball.

I am still confident in a top 12 or so pick, but Oden might be a dream.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Dec 14 2006, 04:31 PM

if they don't finish in the lottery we don't have the right to switch with them. They promised a lotto protected pick to some other team... so if they finish out of the lotto the pick goes to the other team

Posted by: DrunkBomber Dec 14 2006, 08:16 PM

I really hope this works out and we have a shot at Oden. That guy looks to be the real deal andcould be a staple hear for a few years.

Posted by: southsider2k5 Dec 15 2006, 10:22 AM

If we got Greg Oden, he would become the face of the Chicago Bulls franchise for at least a decade.

Posted by: BearSox Dec 15 2006, 09:25 PM

Imagine this in a couple of years...

C. Wallace
PF. Oden/Thomas
SF. Deng
SG. Shefolosha
PG. Hinrich

I think I just creamed myself

Posted by: RME JICO Dec 16 2006, 04:49 AM

Knicks 9-16, 4th worst team in the league.

Posted by: dasox24 Dec 16 2006, 05:23 AM

Yeah, I'm definitely in a good situation for this upcoming draft b/c I'm a Bulls fan, but live in Memphis. That means (assuming the Knicks end the season with a bad record and Oden actually declares for the draft) that there's a good chance I'll be very happy with where Oden ends up b/c whether it's Chicago or Memphis, it'll be awesome.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Dec 16 2006, 08:10 AM

eddy curry didn't score 20 pts last night

Posted by: ChitownMan Dec 16 2006, 10:25 AM

I do hope that the Knicks continue to loose. Not that I am that made at Isiah as he is a native of Chicago however, he is in the process of destroying his second NBA franchise. Remember how bad he was in Toronto and then the CBA? I also do not think that Oden will come out after his freshman year unless OSU wins the tournament, then I still think that it maybe a crapshoot. It would be nice to have another top three pick if the Knicks continue to be at the bottom of the standings.

Posted by: Chisoxfn Dec 16 2006, 12:19 PM

We'll see what happens. Thomas seems to be doing some decent things (after building the debacle that is the Knicks). He has Curry and Lee playing very well (Curry looking like the superstar everyone thought he could be) while he's trying to get well respected guys to give Marbury a clue.

I still expect one of Stephen/Francis to get moved at some point in time (the problem is neither of them have any value) but at this point I think for the Knicks it would be addition by subtraction.

Posted by: WHarris1 Dec 16 2006, 12:34 PM

Updated standings at the bottom.

Toronto 	9 	14 	.391 	
Milwaukee 	9 	14 	.391 
New York 	9 	16 	.360 	
Charlotte 	6 	16 	.273 	
Philadelphia 	5 	17 	.227 	
Memphis 	5 	18 	.217 	

Posted by: chilord Dec 16 2006, 09:11 PM

And the Knicks go down AGAIN!

The Oden watch continues...

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Dec 16 2006, 09:27 PM

Two box scores I make sure to check every night: Bulls and the Knicks

Tonight was a very very good night.

Posted by: kyyle23 Dec 16 2006, 10:13 PM

The Knicks got into a brawl tonite too. They are soooooo giving up their #1 this year

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Dec 16 2006, 10:24 PM

I hope so... but situations like http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=261216018 can do 2 things. They either tear a team apart or make them much stronger. Hopefully, for the Bulls and Greg Oden its the former. I looks like it will hurt the Nuggets much more with Carmello and Smith going nuts. Judging by the video, I think the only Knicks players that really got into it were Robinson, and maybe jeffries. I think Curry and Lee kept their noses clean.

Posted by: kyyle23 Dec 16 2006, 10:46 PM

Mardy Collins, David Lee, Nate Robinson, Jared Jeffries, and Jamal Crawford were all ejected, so all of them will miss at least a game.

I think Carmelo deserves the harshest punishment, he suckerpunched either Jeffries or Collins and basically ran away. It was ridiculous.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Dec 16 2006, 10:59 PM

if they lose Lee and Jefferies for any extended period of time they will be in a world of trouble.

Posted by: SoxFan1 Dec 16 2006, 11:27 PM

Memphis, Charlotte, and Philly are sucking it up big time.

Posted by: Jordan4life_2006 Dec 17 2006, 01:38 AM

I can't believe how bad the Grizzlies are. I know Gasol has been out all year, but they shouldn't be anywhere near this bad. The Bobcats have been sorta of a dissapointment as well.

Posted by: RME JICO Dec 17 2006, 04:15 AM

With NY in a huge brawl, a few of their players will surely be suspended. Hard to see NY winning any games if some of their better players are suspended. So JR Smith did help the Bulls (by starting the brawl). Thanks JR!

Posted by: BearSox Dec 17 2006, 10:25 AM

Posted by: Balta1701-B Dec 17 2006, 03:09 PM

If Isiah doesn't get 10 games or more, there's something wrong with this league. Not if he's out there telling Anthony to "stay out of the lane" like he did.

This was supposedly premeditated. That's just obnoxious. The Knicks ought to wind up just hammered by the league. Hopefully this helps break their spirits a little bit.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Dec 17 2006, 04:49 PM

I didn't hear about that. But I heard the quotes about him pretty much blaming the nuggets for running the score up. If he called for that hard foul... the league should hammer him.

Posted by: Chisoxfn Dec 17 2006, 10:33 PM

Ya, remember the Brawl the Bulls got into against the Wizards in pre-season. We started off god awful right after that, but I remember everyone saying how much the team gelled and meshed following that incident.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Dec 18 2006, 12:11 AM

Here's the story about Isiah's whining ass, blaming Denver for running up the score and embarrassing his players. He's playing the victim card and he's the one who instigated the spiff by sending Mardy Collins out to commit flagrant fouls in back to back games (they did the same thing the night before against the Pacers).
I hope Stern decapitates Thomas as an example that this type of thug mentality and headhunting is not what the NBA is about. If you want to do that type of spiff take it to the football field. Grabbing someone around the neck when they are on a fast break is dangerous as hell and could easily end someones career if not their life. Ive played hurt plenty of times and I know that basketball can be real physical but theres a big difference between an elbow to the ribs and this type of crap. Somebody lower the boom on Isiah please!!!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=dw-knicks121606&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Posted by: truthandbasketball Dec 18 2006, 12:07 PM

They just handed out the suspensions-

Carmelo Anthony - 15 games

JR Smith - 10 games

Nate Robinson - 10 games

Mardy Collins - 6 games

Jared Jefferies - 4 games

Jerome James - 1 game

Nene - 1 games

Both teams were fined $500,000 dollars

They have Isiah on tape warning Melo to stay out of the paint and have yet to take action about that

Posted by: Balta1701-B Dec 18 2006, 12:35 PM

Isiah not being touched = pure B.S.

Posted by: kyyle23 Dec 18 2006, 12:48 PM

Does anyone think this is more or less Isiahs last ride? The guy has been a flat out awful coach, GM, and president everywhere he has been, including the two leagues he drove to bankruptcy(CBA, IBA). He cannot judge talent, he has no system or methodology, he just picks people he deems to be superstars and throws them on a court and tells them to play together(Curry, Francis, Crawford, Marbury, Jeffries, Hardaway, James, etc). After this latest disaster, who would want to give him a chance to do anything with their team? He singlehandedly set the Knicks back at least 3 more years before they will be truly competitive again(not that I really mind )

PS How did Jamal Crawford get off without a suspension? He was ejected from the court during the fight, I thought that warranted an automatic 1 game suspension?

Posted by: southsider2k5 Dec 18 2006, 01:04 PM

It will be interesting to see what Isiah ends up getting.... The rest of the suspensions look about right to me.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Dec 18 2006, 01:08 PM

I think Robinson should get at least as much as melo... if he doesn't push JR Smith the whole thing ends with some jawing and free throws.

Posted by: southsider2k5 Dec 18 2006, 01:09 PM

Suspensions have been announced, and Robinson only got 10 to Anthony's 15 games.

Posted by: kyyle23 Dec 18 2006, 01:16 PM

Yeah, but the matter was being diffused and Anthony came out of nowhere to stick Collins. The fight was basically over when Melo tried to be tough

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Dec 18 2006, 01:21 PM

some non brawl related Knicks pick news... Pau Gasol is supposed to be coming back from injury really soon... With him back, I expect them to be out of the gutter in no time.

Posted by: SoxFan1 Dec 18 2006, 03:30 PM

He's already back, having started his 1st game of the season a few nights ago.

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Dec 18 2006, 04:14 PM

It looks like it'll take him a while to get going though, he's only playing about 17 minutes a game so far and hasn't been that productive. It could take some time to get back into game shape, though once that happens they should shoot up the standings...

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Dec 19 2006, 12:26 AM

Starbury and Lee are played like studs tonight... so far it looks like the fight might have brought the team together... Bulls are just going to have to crush their spirits on the 22nd.

Posted by: southsider2k5 Dec 19 2006, 06:40 AM

I can't believe they beat Utah last night

Posted by: RME JICO Dec 19 2006, 12:33 PM

A last second layup, unbelievable.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Dec 19 2006, 03:08 PM

He got nothing.... Stern's playing favorites again!!!

Posted by: Chisoxfn Dec 19 2006, 06:31 PM

The next question will be how the Knicks respond to this fight. Will they gain some team unity from the whole thing or will they continue to sputter and flounder.

If Francis gives any indication, it sounds like the latter as he has already claimed it was a race issue, which is a complete joke. It was more a stupidity issue of both teams involved. Karl was a jackass for having his starters in and Thomas may have had good reason to do things but regardless you don't premeditate something like that, leave it up to the players. I also think there was absolutely no reason to instigate a fight out of the situation.

Posted by: southsider2k5 Dec 20 2006, 08:16 AM

They said they have no proof he started that mess.... What a joke.

Posted by: Jordan4life_2006 Dec 20 2006, 10:14 PM

Knicks win again on a backwards tip-in by David Lee at the buzzer in double ot. Sixers and Grizzlies both lose again, of course. It's still early, and a lot can still happen, but I think Bulls fans should put to rest any hopes of landing Oden. I'm not even sure a top 3 pick is realistic.

Posted by: chilord Dec 20 2006, 10:29 PM

Ah yes, but remember that lottery balls don't always do what the odds say they will...

Posted by: Jordan4life_2006 Dec 20 2006, 10:41 PM

True, but our most realistic shot at landing the #1 or #2 pick is for the Knicks to flat suck. Don't get me wrong, they're still really, really bad. But I underestimated just how bad the eastern conference is.

Posted by: Chisoxfn Dec 21 2006, 11:57 AM

Wow...what an amazing way for the Knicks to win. .1 or so seconds left and they inbound it and get the tip. Ridiculous. Damn them for winning.

True, but if they really suck it would be nicer because we'd be guaranteed a pretty top 4 or so pick. Speaking of studs...anyone see Durant's game last night, RIDICULOUS.

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Dec 21 2006, 12:46 PM

We really just need the Knicks to finish in the bottom 4, that would give us a pretty good chance of getting a high pick. Being the absolute worst team doesn't really improve your odds all that much, in fact as the worst team you're mathematically more likely to get pick #4 than any other pick (though to be fair so are the other bad teams...).

Posted by: Balta1701-B Dec 21 2006, 01:57 PM

Right now the Knicks are sitting at #6 in winning percentage. They have however won more games than a lot of the teams above them - they've just played more.

Atlanta, Seattle, Charlotte, Memphis, and Philly are sitting below them, and the good news is, at least 3 or 4 of those teams have some hope for improvement in the next few weeks (philly from getting Miller and Smith, Seattle will get Allen back at some point, and Memphis just got Gasol back). The Knicks have also played a weaker schedule than any of the teams below them other than Atlanta, which should help them soon (Seattle, Charlotte, and Philly have all played schedules in the top 12 in strength thus far).

Posted by: Jordan4life_2006 Dec 22 2006, 01:11 AM

Durant is sick! He's easily the second best prospect coming out next year. Most draft sites compare him to Tracy Mcgrady. They're not lying, either. His game is very much like T-mac's. And he doesn't have chronic back problems.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Dec 22 2006, 03:05 PM

Damn, the Sonics lost http://x.go.com/cgi/x.pl?goto=http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2706477&name=FPT-2706477-122215&srvc=sz for 2 months.

Posted by: DrunkBomber Dec 22 2006, 03:59 PM

Lets hope tonight we boost our draft pick against these yahoos.

Posted by: chilord Dec 22 2006, 07:14 PM

Seriously, they're down to nine players on the bench and they've won two in a row.

If you want something done right...

Posted by: Chisoxfn Dec 27 2006, 01:45 PM

Ya and we failed in that attempt, LOL. Curry is playing like a monster right now.

Posted by: SoxFan1 Jan 8 2007, 02:08 PM

Updated New York Knicks Current Record: 15-21

They are actually making a push. We should get rid of that pick in a trade pretty soon, because once that team gets over injuries and suspensions, they might make the playoffs in a weak EC. Hell, they're only 2.5 games out of the 8th seed right now.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Jan 16 2007, 10:09 AM

The Latest from New York is that the Knicks are third in the Atlantic with a 17-22 record coming off a win against the Kings last night. Can they keep it up???

Posted by: SoxFan1 Jan 17 2007, 11:31 PM

Yeah, we need to get rid of this pick quick.

Knicks currently at 17-23.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Jan 18 2007, 10:47 AM

FWIW, the Knicks are currently sitting in the 10th spot in terms of winning percentage, and around 27th in strength of schedule.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Jan 26 2007, 12:34 PM

Eddy Curry suffered a http://www.nypost.com/seven/01262007/sports/knicks/the_pain_game_knicks_brian_lewis.htm earlier this week. The prognosis is still questionable...he looks doubtful for tonight's game, and this may be something that lingers with him or keeps him out for a while.

Posted by: chilord Jan 28 2007, 05:19 PM

And with that tidy little 107-105 loss to the Bucks, the Knicks are 19-27. If Curry's out for any appreciable length of time, look out below!

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jan 29 2007, 03:57 PM

The key is for them to lose there division. If that happens I still think we end up getting a top 10 pick. Still it doesn't help that they have all those divisional games against other terrible squads.

Posted by: eddog2 Jan 30 2007, 10:08 AM

The first 6 games of February are going to be the toughest stretch for the Knicks. They have 5 of those games on the road and the only game at home is against the LAC. The play Orl, LAC, UTH, LAL, GSW, Orl. They could lose 5 of 6 or all six which would drop them significantly down in the standings.

As it stands they are tied for the 9th worst record but are only 2 games ahead of Charlotte for the 4th worst record in the league. Of the teams below them, only Boston & Philly appear to be really trying to lose at this point. I can see the Knicks dropping to the 5th worst team after playing the first 6 games of February. When that happens, things will get real interesting in NY.

After that, March presents a big problem for NY. They play Dallas twice, Cleveland twice, New Orleans twice (who should be healthy), Washington, & Orlando.

Look for the Knicks to start taking a dive. Hopefully things get real interesting after the 1st 6 games of February. If they lose them badly look for coach Thomas to be on the hot seat.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Jan 30 2007, 03:37 PM

The Knicks play a Kobeless Lakers team tonight due to a one game suspension as a result of his majesty's hissyfit lash out at Manu Ginobli Sunday. Kobe is such a baby!!!! I think this game will be the only time I root for the Lakers all year.

Posted by: CryptViLL Jan 31 2007, 09:15 AM

Damn, the knicks won vs. kobeless lakers

knicks @ cha tonight
word

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jan 31 2007, 04:40 PM

What a load of crap. Kobe gets a BS suspension and because of it the Knicks beat a Kobe-less Laker team.

Posted by: AirScott Feb 3 2007, 11:43 AM

it's over for this one. because Isiah has a better idea than Larry Brown of how to coach 15 shoot-first point guards, the Knicks are hovering around .400...which likely won't get their pick into the top two. no Oden, no Durant...I hate life.

Posted by: Jordan4life_2006 Feb 4 2007, 12:57 AM

Yup, Paxson needs to trade the pick before it loses any worth is currently has. The Knicks look like they're gonna win anywhere from 35-41 games. Virtually no chance at landing a top 2 pick.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Feb 4 2007, 02:23 PM

The good news? In this draft, even if we hold the pick, due to how deep it is, a top 10 pick is probably just about as valuable as a top 5 pick was last year.

Posted by: CryptViLL Feb 4 2007, 07:18 PM

yup, ive heard it is indeed a deep draft.

Posted by: chilord Feb 5 2007, 07:54 PM

A mid-level pick in this draft has to fetch something... would Sacramento ever consider trading Brad Miller?

Posted by: RME JICO Feb 11 2007, 06:36 AM

Yeah it looks like the Knicks will have a pick between 8-11. Now I thought the Bulls can take this one or next years, is that still the case? If so I assume the Knicks will improve next year.

I guess they can package it with one of the 2nd Rounders from Denver to make the deal sweeter.

I just can't believe how much better they played after that fight. They were a top 3 pick guaranteed before it and now they are beating teams they shouldn't be.

Posted by: eddog2 Feb 11 2007, 11:41 PM

Sacramento 22 27
New York 22 29
Portland 22 30
Atlanta 20 30
Milwaukee 19 32
Seattle 19 32
Charlotte 18 33
Philly 17 35
Memphis 13 39


Knicks are currently the 8th worst team. But things are starting to look more promising for the Bulls. Atlanta and Portland have been playing better. (both winning 2 in a row). Milwaukee getting Redd back and Seattle getting Lewis back should make those teams way better. As it stands the Knicks are only 3 games ahead of Milwaukee and Seattle. The Knicks could drop down to the 4th worst team with a bad week or 2 after the all-star break. Then all we need is a little luck and we could get a top 2 pick. Hopefully things play out that way and we get Durant.

I still worried that NJ is going to ruin our parade and make our pick worse by having a free for all sale where they deal Kidd/Carter for draft picks. They would be a horrible team if they did that.

Posted by: Tony82087 Feb 12 2007, 12:31 AM

The Knicks are not going to have a worse record than Boston-Memphis-Philly. Just not going to happen, so a Top 2 pick is out the window, unless we get incredibly lucky.

Posted by: dasox24 Feb 12 2007, 12:59 AM

That's what the lottery is for, my friend.

Posted by: eddog2 Feb 12 2007, 09:09 AM

How do you think San Antonio got Duncan a few decade or so ago? The Knicks w/ Ewing? The NBA has a lottery so that teams don't try and cash the season in and lose every game. If the Knicks are the 4th worst team, then the Bulls have a good shot at a top 2 pick.

In 2004 here were the odds

Orlando 21-61 250 25.00% 21.55% 17.85%
Chicago 23-59 200 20.00% 18.91% 17.22%
Washington 25-57 157 15.70% 15.80% 15.66%
L.A. Clippers 28-54 105 10.50% 11.31% 12.22%
Atlanta 28-54 104 10.40% 11.22% 12.14%
Phoenix 29-53 64 6.40% 7.20% 8.23%
Toronto 33-49 37 3.70% 4.28% 5.05%
Philadelphia 33-49 36 2.90% 3.37% 4.02%
Cleveland 35-47 18 1.80% 4.17% 4.93%
Golden State 37-45 9 0.90% 1.07% 1.30%
Seattle 37-45 9 0.90% 1.07% 1.30%
Portland 41-41 6 0.60% 0.71% 0.87%
Utah 42-40 5 0.50% 0.59% 0.73%


So with the 4th worst record the Bulls would have a 10.5% chance of getting the #1, 11.31% chance of getting #2, 12.22% chance of getting number 3.

Even at # 5 the Bulls still have similar chances of getting the 1/2/3.

In 2005 the Bucks got the 1st pick after finishing with the 6th worst record. So it is not out of the question that the Bulls will get a 1 or 2 even if the knicks finish 4-6th. I believe 1-5 is picked via the lottery and the rest of the picks go by record after that.

Posted by: CryptViLL Feb 12 2007, 09:31 AM

Nice post. Thanks eddog

Posted by: southsider2k5 Feb 12 2007, 10:23 AM

You know what will happen. The Knicks will get into the lottery with the #3 pick

Posted by: DrunkBomber Feb 12 2007, 12:11 PM

Dont forgot how the Wizards got us in the lottery when the took Kwame. There was a picture in ESPN the magazine of MJ crossing off Buls lottery balls and writing wizards on them.

Posted by: CryptViLL Feb 12 2007, 03:28 PM

Haha, I remember that 'zine.
good stuff

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Feb 12 2007, 03:59 PM

San Antonio got Duncan because David Robinson was hurt most of the previous year. He only played 6 games, and they finished 20-62. Amazingly, that was only good for the 3rd worst record. The Knicks were also the 3rd worst when they got Ewing, finishing 24-58.

You should have mentioned the most miraculous case, when the Magic just missed the playoffs and still got the #1 pick for the second year in a row. They had one lottery ball in the machine, and Shaq happened to pick it (they drafted Webber and traded his rights for Hardaway). It's not out of the question, but your odds drop quite a bit.

The Knicks are currently in 9th, and those odds for Cleveland are pretty nasty. The Knicks would have to drop a bit to even get a 10% chance of getting one of the top 2 picks, and getting passed by 4 teams to get to #5 would be a hell of a drop.




That wasn't really much of a fluke, the Wizards were 19-63 the previous year, good for 3rd worst record. If you get in the top 4, you've got a pretty good shot at winning it. Unfortunately, the Knicks have to start losing a lot to do that.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Feb 12 2007, 10:03 PM

Current Knicks Record: 23 - 30

Remaining Knicks Schedule

Feb 20th – Magic (Home)
Feb 21st – Sixers
Feb 23rd – Bucks (Home)
Feb 25th – Nets
Feb 26th – Heat (Home)
Feb 28th – Celtics

March 2nd – Warriors (Home)
March 3rd – Hawks
March 6th – Sonics (Home)
March 10th – Wizards
March 14th – Raptors
March 16th – Hornets (Home)
March 18th – Raptors (Home)
March 20th – Mavericks (Home)
March 22nd – Blazers (Home)
March 23rd – Cavaliers
March 26th – Magic (Home)
March 28th – Cavaliers (Home)
March 30th – Mavericks
March 31st – Hornets

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

Posted by: eddog2 Feb 13 2007, 01:05 AM

getting passed by 4 teams to get to #5 would be a hell of a drop.

It's a hell of a drop that's going to happen! The Knicks are going to finish 6th or lower. Mark my words. I really think they will fall to 5th or 4th but if not 6th is where they will end.

Memphis
Boston
Philly
Charlotte

besides that, Seattle/Portland/Atlanta/Milwaukee will finish with better records. One team to keep an eye on is NJ who could take a big tumble depending on what is done around the trade deadline.

Posted by: eddog2 Feb 15 2007, 10:52 AM

Knicks lose. (have lost 2 of 3)

Atlanta, Charlotte, Seattle, Boston win! Look out.

Atlanta continues to play well. They've won 3 of 4.
Seattle with Lewis back is an entirely different team. They've won 2 in a row.

All we need is for Michael Redd to quit being a pansy so that the Bucks can catch the Knicks.

NJ's lost 2 in a row and looked aweful doing it. They better not spoil the Bulls hopes of getting a high pick.



If the Bulls don't get Gasol I would love for the Celtics to get him. With Gasol/Pierce in the east the Celtics could likely make up the 9 games they trail NY. That would leave the Bulls with one less team to worry about. However, it's not likely that they acquire Gasol.

Posted by: CryptViLL Feb 15 2007, 02:58 PM

Keep falling knicks!

Posted by: truthandbasketball Feb 21 2007, 04:00 AM

Current Knicks Record: 24 - 31

Remaining Knicks Schedule

Feb 23rd – Bucks (Home)
Feb 25th – Nets
Feb 26th – Heat (Home)
Feb 28th – Celtics

March 2nd – Warriors (Home)
March 3rd – Hawks
March 6th – Sonics (Home)
March 10th – Wizards
March 14th – Raptors
March 16th – Hornets (Home)
March 18th – Raptors (Home)
March 20th – Mavericks (Home)
March 22nd – Blazers (Home)
March 23rd – Cavaliers
March 26th – Magic (Home)
March 28th – Cavaliers (Home)
March 30th – Mavericks
March 31st – Hornets

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

Heres how the bottom of the Eastern Conference looks right now -

New York 24 31 0.436 11.0 14-19 2-6 14-13 10-18 5-5 L 1
Charlotte 21 33 0.389 13.5 13-20 3-7 12-15 9-18 5-5 W 3
Atlanta 21 33 0.389 13.5 12-21 4-5 9-16 12-17 4-6 L 2
Milwaukee 19 36 0.345 16.0 9-23 1-10 11-12 8-24 1-9 L 6
Philadelphia 18 36 0.333 16.5 13-18 4-5 10-15 8-21 5-5 W 1
Boston 13 40 0.245 21.0 9-24 4-7 5-21 8-19 1-9 L 2

Posted by: soxfan3530 Feb 27 2007, 03:25 PM

here is a potential setback for the good ole knicks. our buddy Jamal was injured in last week's game. Could be lost for the season. Bad news for crawford, but good news for the pick


Knicks' Crawford may be out for season

NEW YORK -- Monday, Jamal Crawford hit a late 3-pointer to give the New York Knicks a win over the Miami Heat.

Tuesday, the team learned he will likely require season-ending surgery on a stress fracture in his right ankle, though the team said it's possible he could return if the Knicks make the playoffs.

"It's very disappointing, honestly," Crawford told reporters on Tuesday. "You never expect anything like this to happen. I guess it's just part of life."

Crawford told reporters that surgery is "not definite, but a strong possibility." He also said he was told there were "no other options" to repair the fracture. He said he had been feeling pain in his ankle for a few weeks and had X-rays after Monday's game and an MRI and CT scan on Tuesday.

Crawford is scoring 17.9 points per game this season, making him the second-highest scorer on the Knicks. New York is 26-32 and was two games out of the eighth and final spot in the Eastern Conference playoffs entering Tuersday's game at Boston.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Feb 27 2007, 05:20 PM

sucks for the knicks.

Posted by: dasox24 Feb 27 2007, 07:35 PM

Wow, sucks for the Knicks, good for us. I'm not a big fan of Jamal, and even though I never wish injury on a player, I also can't say I'm sorry he's hurt. Gosh I really hope this is only the beginning of a downward spiral for the Knicks. I know having the 1st or 2nd pick is very unlikely, but I'd be very happy if we could get like the 5th-7th, and pick up Horford from Florida or someone like that.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Feb 28 2007, 11:12 AM

Apparently Isiah let out what is being described as a 'primal scream' when he got the news yesterday that Jamal was toast for the year. So you're saying theres a chance..... All I gotta say is Go Celtics!!!!
Heres the link -

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/28/sports/basketball/28knicks.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Posted by: DrunkBomber Feb 28 2007, 11:49 AM

Helps our cause. Too bad for Jamal though.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Feb 28 2007, 12:36 PM

Current Knicks Record: 26 - 32

Remaining Knicks Schedule

Feb 28th – Celtics

March 2nd – Warriors (Home)
March 3rd – Hawks
March 6th – Sonics (Home)
March 10th – Wizards
March 14th – Raptors
March 16th – Hornets (Home)
March 18th – Raptors (Home)
March 20th – Mavericks (Home)
March 22nd – Blazers (Home)
March 23rd – Cavaliers
March 26th – Magic (Home)
March 28th – Cavaliers (Home)
March 30th – Mavericks
March 31st – Hornets

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Feb 28 2007, 09:25 PM

Boston beats the knicks... oh yeah!

Posted by: truthandbasketball Mar 1 2007, 01:19 AM

Current Knicks Record: 26 - 33

Remaining Knicks Schedule

March 2nd – Warriors (Home)
March 3rd – Hawks
March 6th – Sonics (Home)
March 10th – Wizards
March 14th – Raptors
March 16th – Hornets (Home)
March 18th – Raptors (Home)
March 20th – Mavericks (Home)
March 22nd – Blazers (Home)
March 23rd – Cavaliers
March 26th – Magic (Home)
March 28th – Cavaliers (Home)
March 30th – Mavericks
March 31st – Hornets

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

New York 26 33 0.441 12.0 16-21 2-8 16-13 10-20 5-5 L 1
Charlotte 22 36 0.379 15.5 14-21 3-7 13-16 9-20 4-6 L 3
Atlanta 22 36 0.379 15.5 12-21 4-5 10-17 12-19 4-6 L 3
Milwaukee 21 37 0.362 16.5 10-24 1-10 13-12 8-25 3-7 W 2
Philadelphia 19 38 0.333 18.0 13-20 4-5 11-15 8-23 5-5 L 1
Boston 15 42 0.263 22.0 10-24 5-7 6-21 9-21 3-7 W 2

Posted by: Jordan4life_2007 Mar 1 2007, 02:16 AM

I'll be shocked if the Knicks don't make the playoffs.

Posted by: soxfan101 Mar 1 2007, 04:13 AM

your not the brightest?

They most likely werent going to make playoffs with Crawford now he is out and they just lost to the lowly Celtics.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Mar 5 2007, 10:24 AM

Current Knicks Record: 28- 33

Remaining Knicks Schedule

March 6th – Sonics (Home)
March 10th – Wizards
March 14th – Raptors
March 16th – Hornets (Home)
March 18th – Raptors (Home)
March 20th – Mavericks (Home)
March 22nd – Blazers (Home)
March 23rd – Cavaliers
March 26th – Magic (Home)
March 28th – Cavaliers (Home)
March 30th – Mavericks
March 31st – Hornets

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

New York 28 33 0.459 11.0 17-21 2-8 17-13 11-20 6-4 W 2
Orlando 28 33 0.459 11.0 16-20 6-6 18-12 10-21 2-8 L 3
Charlotte 22 38 0.367 16.5 14-21 3-7 13-16 9-22 4-6 L 5
Milwaukee 22 38 0.367 16.5 11-25 1-11 13-13 9-25 3-7 L 1
Philadelphia 22 38 0.367 16.5 14-20 5-5 14-15 8-23 5-5 W 4
Atlanta 22 38 0.367 16.5 12-23 4-6 10-18 12-20 2-8 L 5
Boston 17 42 0.288 21.0 11-24 6-7 7-21 10-21 5-5 W 4

Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Mar 5 2007, 04:24 PM

the way things stand right now the bulls would have the 12th overall pick in the draft, so the knicks need to lose some more

Posted by: soxfan101 Mar 6 2007, 01:25 PM

I think they will, and we will end up between the 8-10 pick.

Posted by: soxfan3530 Mar 6 2007, 02:16 PM

good but not gonna get us oden or durant. the players we really need. i wonder what it would take to move up to one or two. probably at least our pick and maybe Tyrus. not sure if its worth that. could get lucky with the lottery.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Mar 6 2007, 02:20 PM

It's gonna be virtually impossible to get a team to trade away a draft pick this year, especially before the lottery, and afterwards you're not even going to come close to getting 1 or 2.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Mar 6 2007, 11:42 PM

Current Knicks Record: 28- 34

Remaining Knicks Schedule

March 10th – Wizards
March 14th – Raptors
March 16th – Hornets (Home)
March 18th – Raptors (Home)
March 20th – Mavericks (Home)
March 22nd – Blazers (Home)
March 23rd – Cavaliers
March 26th – Magic (Home)
March 28th – Cavaliers (Home)
March 30th – Mavericks
March 31st – Hornets

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

New York 28 34 0.452 11.0 17-21 2-8 17-14 11-20 5-5
Philadelphia 22 38 0.367 16.0 14-20 5-5 14-15 8-23 5-5
Milwaukee 22 39 0.361 16.5 11-26 1-11 13-13 9-26 3-7
Charlotte 22 39 0.361 16.5 14-21 3-7 13-16 9-23 4-6
Atlanta 22 39 0.361 16.5 12-24 4-7 10-18 12-21 2-8
Boston 17 42 0.288 20.5 11-24 6-7 7-21 10-21 5-5

Posted by: dasox24 Mar 7 2007, 12:48 AM

Hmm... Well, by just looking at the Knicks' schedule, by the end of the season they should be about 36-46. Not bad enough to give us a legit chance at winning the lottery, but I can't complain. It's still gonna be a high pick.

Posted by: eddog2 Mar 7 2007, 11:46 AM

Right now the Knicks are the 11th worst team (record wise) but two of the teams below them


Memphis 15-46
Boston 17-42
Charlotte 22-39
Atlanta 22-39
Milwuakee 22-39
Philly 22-38
Portland 25-36
Seattle 25-35
Golden S. 27-35
New York 28-34
Minnesota 27-33
New Jersey 28-33
Sacramento 28-32


There are roughly 20 games left in the season for most teams on the list.

I think the three teams in bold will definately catch and pass the Knicks. Minnesota is ahead of the Knicks in the loss column but they haven't played as many games. Minnesota and Seattle are playing much better.

Philly has also been on fire as of late winning 4 in a row. Hopefully Philly and Portland catch the Knicks along with the three teams in bold. That will make the Knicks the 6th worst team and ensure that we get a mid lottery pick if we don't get a top 5 pick.

Without Crawford, how long until Marbury becomes and issue? I hope Marbury continues to put up 40ppg in losing efforts.

The Knicks have a tough stretch coming up the rest of this month.

They play Washington, Toronto twice, Hornets twice, Cleveland twice, Dallas twice, Orlando, & Portland. With the exception of Portland these are all teams trying to solidify higher playoff positions or just trying to make the playoffs. They are not going to try and capitalize on their matchup against the Knicks.

10 out of 11 against playoff teams or teams on the bubble. I like our chances and think the Knicks are prime for a big fall.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Mar 11 2007, 12:02 PM

and if the season ended today the bulls wouldn't get a lotto pick

Posted by: soxfan101 Mar 11 2007, 12:21 PM

thats why it isnt over today

Posted by: eddog2 Mar 14 2007, 12:24 AM

What's up with Indiana losing 10 in a row. It seems like everyone just wants to hand over the 8th seed to the Knicks. Maybe they're scared of the Bulls getting better. The last thing the East needs is another decade of Bulls domination.

Posted by: sport1016 Mar 14 2007, 04:48 AM

yeah i think they are tanking to get oden

with their major fall any chance jermaine oneal becomes available?

Posted by: Balta1701-B Mar 14 2007, 10:07 AM

Indiana has virtually no shot at Oden even if they lose out the season. They aren't tanking for him. There are 15 teams with as bad of a record as the Pacers or worse. Even if they don't win another game they'll still probably barely break the top 10.

Posted by: chilord Mar 14 2007, 08:03 PM

It's about time the *puke* 8th seeded Nix got a beat down. Thanks, Dinos! Now, if Indiana would stop doing their 1980's Clippers impression, this pick may be worth something yet!

Posted by: truthandbasketball Mar 14 2007, 08:42 PM

Current Knicks Record: 29-35

Remaining Knicks Schedule

March 16th – Hornets (Home)
March 18th – Raptors (Home)
March 20th – Mavericks (Home)
March 22nd – Blazers (Home)
March 23rd – Cavaliers
March 26th – Magic (Home)
March 28th – Cavaliers (Home)
March 30th – Mavericks
March 31st – Hornets

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

New York 29 35 0.453 12.0 18-22 2-9 17-14 12-21 5-5 L 1
Orlando 30 36 0.455 12.0 17-22 6-7 20-13 10-23 3-7 W 1
Indiana 29 35 0.453 12.0 20-17 7-5 18-14 11-21 0-10 L 11
Atlanta 26 40 0.394 16.0 14-25 5-7 14-18 12-22 4-6 L 1
Philadelphia 25 40 0.385 16.5 15-22 5-5 16-16 9-24 7-3 L 2
Milwaukee 23 41 0.359 18.0 11-28 1-12 14-15 9-26 4-6 L 2
Charlotte 24 41 0.369 17.5 15-21 4-7 15-17 9-24 2-8 W 2
Boston 19 45 0.297 22.0 12-26 6-7 9-23 10-22 6-4 W 1

Posted by: chilord Mar 16 2007, 08:09 PM

The Hornets take down the Nix 92-90. One more on the right side of the ledger. They drop below Orlando AND Indiana, with some tough games coming up! Keep that losing mojo goin', New York!

Posted by: eddog2 Mar 17 2007, 12:13 AM

They keep losing and Philly, Atlanta, and Milwaukee continue to play better. Hopefully 2 of those 3 go on a good winning streak. Too bad Sacramento, Portland, and Seattle keep losing.

Posted by: eddog2 Mar 20 2007, 11:10 PM

Knicks lose again.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Mar 20 2007, 11:43 PM

Current Knicks Record: 30-37

Remaining Knicks Schedule

March 22nd – Blazers (Home)
March 23rd – Cavaliers
March 26th – Magic (Home)
March 28th – Cavaliers (Home)
March 30th – Mavericks
March 31st – Hornets

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

Orlando 31 37 0.456 13.0 18-22 7-7 20-14 11-23 3-7 W 1
New York 30 37 0.448 13.5 19-22 3-9 18-16 12-21 5-5 L 1
Atlanta 27 41 0.397 17.0 14-26 5-7 15-18 12-23 5-5 W 1
Philadelphia 26 42 0.382 18.0 15-23 5-5 17-17 9-25 6-4 L 2
Milwaukee 25 41 0.379 18.0 12-28 1-12 16-15 9-26 6-4 W 2
Charlotte 25 43 0.368 19.0 16-22 4-7 16-18 9-25 3-7 W 1
Boston 20 47 0.299 23.5 12-26 6-7 9-23 11-24 5-5 L 1

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Mar 21 2007, 08:52 PM

Unfortunately they're still tied for 11th worst, and are only .001 percentage points ahead of Orlando (and I believe after tonight's results will sllide to 13th). The Bulls need them to go on a losing streak...

Posted by: ChitownMan Mar 22 2007, 10:24 AM

I agree with Zoom that the sooner the Knicks go on a good losing streak the better. With the way Isiah has come off the last couple of years, it is time for him to exit the spot light and maybe try his hand at something else. The more the Knicks loose the better Da' Bulls may be on draft day.

Posted by: soxfan101 Mar 22 2007, 06:16 PM

ummm duh?

Posted by: truthandbasketball Mar 22 2007, 08:03 PM

Knicks lose again!!! Thank you Portland!!!!

Current Knicks Record: 30-38

Remaining Knicks Schedule

March 23rd – Cavaliers
March 26th – Magic (Home)
March 28th – Cavaliers (Home)
March 30th – Mavericks
March 31st – Hornets

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

Indiana 30 37 0.448 13.5 21-17 7-5 19-14 11-23 1-9 L 2
New York 30 38 0.441 14.0 19-22 3-9 18-17 12-21 4-6 L 2
Atlanta 27 42 0.391 17.5 14-27 5-8 15-19 12-23 5-5 L 1
Philadelphia 26 42 0.382 18.0 15-23 5-5 17-17 9-25 6-4 L 2
Charlotte 26 43 0.377 18.5 17-22 4-7 16-18 10-25 4-6 W 2
Milwaukee 25 42 0.373 18.5 12-28 1-12 16-16 9-26 5-5 L 1
Boston 20 48 0.294 24.0 12-27 6-7 9-24 11-24 4-6 L 2

Posted by: chilord Mar 22 2007, 08:12 PM

Every little bit helps.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Mar 23 2007, 10:16 AM

Good chance over these next 4 games for the Knicks to get themselves mired in a losing skid.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Mar 23 2007, 10:25 AM

Heaven.... oooooooo... oooooo.... I'm in heaven....

Posted by: chilord Mar 23 2007, 10:41 PM

That is a work of art, my friend.

That scenario turns up, Bulls are the beasts of the East at least and watch out Suns, Spurs, and Mavs, too.

Frontcourt featuring Deng, Nocioni, Thomas, Wallace, and Oden.

Posted by: eddog2 Mar 24 2007, 01:04 AM

Knicks lose again. Three teams extremely close to passing them.

The Knicks could be on a free fall to the 8th worst record. Maybe lower if they continue to lose. I'm 'ing.

Anyway, I would like to see Yi on our team if we can't get Durant.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Mar 24 2007, 01:22 AM

Another day, another L for our buddies in New York!!!
90-68 tonight, could they be losing hope????

Current Knicks Record: 30-39

Remaining Knicks Schedule

March 26th – Magic (Home)
March 28th – Cavaliers (Home)
March 30th – Mavericks
March 31st – Hornets

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

New Jersey 31 38 0.449 12.5 21-18 7-6 18-17 13-21 3-7 L 2
New York 30 39 0.435 13.5 19-23 3-9 18-17 12-22 4-6 L 3
Philadelphia 27 42 0.391 16.5 16-23 5-5 18-17 9-25 6-4 W 1
Atlanta 27 43 0.386 17.0 14-27 5-8 15-20 12-23 5-5 L 2
Milwaukee 25 42 0.373 17.5 12-28 1-12 16-16 9-26 5-5 L 1
Charlotte 26 44 0.371 18.0 17-23 4-7 16-18 10-26 4-6 L 1
Boston 20 49 0.290 23.5 12-27 6-7 9-25 11-24 3-7 L 3

Posted by: Balta1701-B Mar 26 2007, 08:17 PM

Thank you Jameer Nelson and Dwight Howard. Seriously, thanks a ton.

Posted by: chilord Mar 26 2007, 09:35 PM

Droppin', droppin', droppin'...

Did someone say playoffs for these guys? ROFL!

Posted by: truthandbasketball Mar 27 2007, 03:18 AM

Another sweet loss for New York with two tough ones up next for Isiah's flock.

Current Knicks Record: 30-40

Remaining Knicks Schedule

March 28th – Cavaliers (Home)
March 30th – Mavericks
March 31st – Hornets

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

Indiana 31 38 0.449 13.5 22-18 7-6 20-15 11-23 2-8 L 1
New York 30 40 0.429 15.0 19-24 3-9 18-18 12-22 3-7 L 4
Philadelphia 28 42 0.400 17.0 17-23 5-5 18-17 10-25 6-4 W 2
Atlanta 27 45 0.375 19.0 14-28 5-9 15-21 12-24 4-6 L 4
Charlotte 26 45 0.366 19.5 17-24 4-7 16-19 10-26 4-6 L 2
Milwaukee 25 44 0.362 19.5 12-29 1-13 16-17 9-27 3-7 L 3
Boston 21 49 0.300 24.0 13-27 7-7 10-25 11-24 4-6 W 1

Posted by: truthandbasketball Mar 27 2007, 03:44 AM

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03272007/sports/knicks/knicks_about_knicks_marcberman.htm

For those keeping track of new addition Randolph Morris, he hasnt entered a game yet for the Knicks.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Mar 27 2007, 10:04 AM

The Knicks are 1-6 since Isiah signed his contract extension. And now they get the Cavs and the Mavs.

Posted by: soxfan3530 Mar 27 2007, 11:31 AM

I predict they will go around 4-8 for the rest of the year. That would give them a 34-48 record on the season. Even the East is not that bad. Knick miss the playoffs again!!!

Posted by: bulls91 Mar 27 2007, 03:56 PM

i hope they go 2-10 but they might do a little better but with out the use of Quintin Richardson and the use of David Lee. They will fall just the matter of time Thomas is not the savioure.

Posted by: chilord Mar 28 2007, 08:37 PM

The Knicks beat the Cavs? Wow. The Cavs truly are worthless.

Oh well, this stings a bit less, now that we gain the 1/2 game we just lost--back to 1 back of the 2 seed!

Posted by: Balta1701-B Mar 29 2007, 10:29 AM

Well, if the Knicks were going to win against anyone...at least they helped us out in the process.

Come on Orlando, NJ, and Indiana...

Posted by: truthandbasketball Mar 29 2007, 05:41 PM

Somehow this ragtag bunch got a win over Cleveland but even though they did they still managed to aid our cause in another way. As a result of the Cavs loss we took one step closer to leapfrogging them for the number 2 seed in the East. Steve Francis got hurt against the Cavs which might be another reason to smile if your a Bulls fan but with all the fighting between he and Isiah of late only time will tell if that even matters to the Knicks.

Knicks newcomer Randolph Morris popped his NBA cherry playing 7 minutes in this one and the result was 1 point, 1 rebound. He was 0-1 from the field and 1-4 from the free throw line.

With New York set to take on the Mavs in Dallas next and only 4 home games left out of the remaining 11 hopefully they keep fallin.
Current Knicks Record: 31-40

Remaining Knicks Schedule

March 30th – Mavericks
March 31st – Hornets

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

Orlando 33 39 0.458 13.0 20-24 7-7 21-14 12-25 4-6 L 1
Indiana 31 40 0.437 14.5 22-20 7-7 20-16 11-24 2-8 L 3
New York 31 40 0.437 14.5 20-24 3-9 19-18 12-22 3-7 W 1
Philadelphia 28 43 0.394 17.5 17-24 5-5 18-17 10-26 5-5 L 1
Charlotte 27 45 0.375 19.0 18-24 5-7 17-19 10-26 5-5 W 1
Atlanta 27 46 0.370 19.5 14-29 5-10 15-21 12-25 3-7 L 5
Milwaukee 25 45 0.357 20.0 12-29 1-13 16-17 9-28 3-7 L 4
Boston 22 49 0.310 23.5 14-27 7-7 11-25 11-24 4-6 W 2

Posted by: truthandbasketball Mar 30 2007, 01:45 PM

Quentin Richardson's done for the rest of the season due to back surgery. Anyone know how he got hurt? Word on the street is Brandy hit him with her car

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2819093

Posted by: chilord Mar 30 2007, 09:22 PM

And there's the 'L' we needed... it was a close one. You telling me Dallas can barely beat a beat-up Knicks team? I smell a rat--the other league teams really do fear the Bulls getting that lottery pick! =p

Posted by: Balta1701-B Mar 30 2007, 10:28 PM

Did Nowitzki play?

Posted by: truthandbasketball Mar 31 2007, 12:02 AM

Another loss by New York is just the best start to the weekend!!! Thanks for everything Isiah, Congrats on your contract extension!!! I hope they keep you for a long, long time lol

Current Knicks Record: 31-41

Remaining Knicks Schedule

March 31st – Hornets

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

New Jersey 33 39 0.458 13.0 23-19 7-6 19-17 14-22 5-5 L 1
Indiana 31 41 0.431 15.0 22-21 7-7 20-16 11-25 2-8 L 4
New York 31 41 0.431 15.0 20-24 3-9 19-18 12-23 3-7 L 1
Philadelphia 29 43 0.403 17.0 18-24 6-5 19-17 10-26 5-5 W 1
Charlotte 28 45 0.384 18.5 19-24 5-7 18-19 10-26 6-4 W 2
Atlanta 27 46 0.370 19.5 14-29 5-10 15-21 12-25 3-7 L 5
Milwaukee 25 46 0.352 20.5 12-30 1-13 16-17 9-29 3-7 L 5
Boston 22 50 0.306 24.0 14-28 7-8 11-25 11-25 4-6 L 1

For those interested Randolph Morris DNP in this one

Posted by: chilord Mar 31 2007, 01:04 AM

Yuppers, he sure did... otherwise the Nix win by plenty.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Apr 1 2007, 02:16 AM

It took overtime to get it done but the Hornets handed the Knicks a 103-94 loss Saturday night.
In the matchup of ex-Baby Bulls Eddy Curry had 34 points and 13 boards while Tyson had 13 points and 13 rebounds. Randolph Morris played 3 minutes and had 0 points (0-1), 1 rebound and 1 turnover.

Current Knicks Record: 31-42

Remaining Knicks Schedule

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

Orlando 34 39 0.466 12.5 21-24 7-7 22-14 12-25 5-5 W 1
Indiana 31 41 0.431 15.0 22-21 7-7 20-16 11-25 2-8 L 4
New York 31 42 0.425 15.5 20-24 3-9 19-18 12-24 2-8 L 2
Philadelphia 29 44 0.397 17.5 18-25 6-6 19-17 10-27 4-6 L 1
Charlotte 28 45 0.384 18.5 19-24 5-7 18-19 10-26 6-4 W 2
Atlanta 27 46 0.370 19.5 14-29 5-10 15-21 12-25 3-7 L 5
Milwaukee 25 46 0.352 20.5 12-30 1-13 16-17 9-29 3-7 L 5
Boston 22 50 0.306 24.0 14-28 7-8 11-25 11-25 4-6 L 1

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Apr 1 2007, 07:07 PM

Knicks don't play today... but there is still a chance for some good things...


Timberwolves won in overtime, Pacers are currently winning. Portland and seatle both have games today...

Its good to see the teams below the knicks notching wins.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Apr 2 2007, 12:14 AM

Current Knicks Record: 31-42

Some great results today as the Bulls get the W, Celtics beat the Cavs, and Pacers beat the Spurs.
Remaining Knicks Schedule

April 4th – Sixers (Home)
April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

Orlando 34 40 0.459 13.5 21-24 7-7 22-15 12-25 5-5 L 1
Indiana 32 41 0.438 15.0 22-21 7-7 21-16 11-25 3-7 W 1
New York 31 42 0.425 16.0 20-24 3-9 19-18 12-24 2-8 L 2
Philadelphia 29 44 0.397 18.0 18-25 6-6 19-17 10-27 4-6 L 1
Charlotte 28 46 0.378 19.5 19-25 5-7 18-19 10-27 5-5 L 1
Atlanta 27 47 0.365 20.5 14-30 5-10 15-22 12-25 2-8 L 6
Milwaukee 25 47 0.347 21.5 12-31 1-13 16-18 9-29 2-8 L 6
Boston 23 50 0.315 24.0 15-28 7-8 12-25 11-25 5-5 W 1

Posted by: eddog2 Apr 2 2007, 09:56 PM

This next game is huge for the Knicks. If the Sixers beat the Knicks, I think they will pass them in the standings.

I like that they still have to play the NJ twice, the Bulls, the Wolves, the Raptors, and the Pistons. NJ is still pushing for that playoff spot and will be trying hard to win those games. The other teams are all still trying to either get in or keep or improve their current standings for the playoffs. There should be no letdown vs the Knicks from any of those teams.

Posted by: soxfan3530 Apr 3 2007, 11:07 AM

Come on Knicks! You guys have the ability to lose everyone of those games!!! MAKE ME A BELIEVER!!!!

Posted by: Balta1701-B Apr 4 2007, 08:16 PM

And to top off the Bulls beating the Pistons tonight...the Freaking 6ers stage a 4th quarter rally and http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=270404018 the Knickerbockers yet again! This puts Philly 1 game behind NY in the standings.

Sacramento, Philly, Seattle and Charlotte are all sitting at 30 wins. New York and Minnesota are sitting at 31, the Pacers are at 32 (as of right now...Sacramento plays Denver tonight). The good news is that it looks like the danger of the Knicks making the playoffs may have passed, as they have now fallen 2.5 games behind Orlando for the 8th slot with the Pacers inbetween.

Posted by: eddog2 Apr 4 2007, 09:46 PM

Go Philly, Seattle, Charlotte & Sacramento. I don't think Sacramento has much chance of passing the Knicks. They look like they're going to lose tonight to Denver. But it would be awesome if all 4 passed the Knicks.

Portlands up 66-60. If they can hold on that would make them the 5th team with 30 wins.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Apr 4 2007, 10:57 PM

Great Night! Bulls Win!!! Pistons Lose!!!! Knicks Lose!!!! Charlotte Win!!! Philly Win!!!!
I feel like I won a football pool!!! lol
KG should add to New York's troubles Friday as the Knicks continue their downward spiral of hopelessness. I hear Spike Lee's movin to Jersey....

Current Knicks Record: 31-43

April 6th – Wolves (Home)
April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

Orlando 34 41 0.453 14.0 21-25 7-7 22-16 12-25 5-5 L 2
Indiana 32 42 0.432 15.5 22-22 7-8 21-17 11-25 3-7 L 1
New York 31 43 0.419 16.5 20-25 3-10 19-19 12-24 2-8 L 3
Philadelphia 30 44 0.405 17.5 19-25 7-6 19-17 11-27 5-5 W 1
Charlotte 30 46 0.395 18.5 21-25 7-7 19-19 11-27 6-4 W 2
Atlanta 27 48 0.360 21.0 14-31 5-10 15-22 12-26 1-9 L 7
Milwaukee 26 48 0.351 21.5 13-31 1-13 17-19 9-29 3-7 W 1
Boston 23 51 0.311 24.5 15-29 7-8 12-25 11-26 4-6 L 1

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Apr 6 2007, 02:45 PM

Huge day for the pick. Knicks vs Timberwovles.... LETS GO TIMBERWOLVES!!! Also, we need Portland, Sacramento, and the bobcats to win!

Posted by: chilord Apr 6 2007, 08:39 PM

And the T-Wolves take down New York! What a way to kick off yet another Bulls winner!

Posted by: truthandbasketball Apr 7 2007, 01:23 AM

Minnesota beat New York Friday night for another valuable loss.

Current Knicks Record: 31-44

April 7th – Bucks
April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

Orlando 34 41 0.453 14.0 21-25 7-7 22-16 12-25 5-5 L 2
Indiana 33 42 0.440 15.0 23-22 7-8 21-17 12-25 3-7 W 1
New York 31 44 0.413 17.0 20-25 3-10 19-20 12-24 2-8 L 4
Philadelphia 30 45 0.400 18.0 19-26 7-7 19-18 11-27 5-5 L 1
Charlotte 30 47 0.390 19.0 21-26 7-7 19-20 11-27 6-4 L 1
Atlanta 28 48 0.368 20.5 15-31 5-10 16-22 12-26 2-8 W 1
Milwaukee 26 49 0.347 22.0 13-32 1-13 17-19 9-30 2-8 L 1
Boston 23 52 0.307 25.0 15-30 7-8 12-26 11-26 4-6 L 2

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Apr 7 2007, 01:17 PM

sacramento and portland must have tie breakers over the knicks... because even though they all have the same record... the knicks have the 8th pick.

Posted by: chilord Apr 8 2007, 07:34 AM

Curry for three.

CURRY FOR THREE?!?!

You gotta be kidding me, Milwaukee Bucks. Just goes to show that any team that close to Green Bay automatically absorbs t3h suxx0rz.

Well, NY has Detroit and us back to back. Good luck with that, Nixies!

Posted by: truthandbasketball Apr 8 2007, 09:40 PM

Well the Knicks finally won a game against the lowly Bucks this weekend but Charlotte helped our cause tonight with a nice OT win against the Heat to keep the pressure on New York. Next Up for the Knicks Pistons and Bulls. Time to bring them back to reality.

Current Knicks Record: 32-44

April 9th – Pistons (Home)
April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

Orlando 35 41 0.461 14.0 21-25 7-7 23-16 12-25 5-5 W 1
Indiana 34 42 0.447 15.0 24-22 7-8 22-17 12-25 4-6 W 2
New York 32 44 0.421 17.0 21-25 3-10 19-20 13-24 2-8 W 1
Philadelphia 31 45 0.408 18.0 20-26 7-7 20-18 11-27 5-5 W 1
Charlotte 31 47 0.397 19.0 22-26 8-7 19-20 12-27 6-4 W 1
Atlanta 28 49 0.364 21.5 15-32 5-10 16-22 12-27 2-8 L 1
Milwaukee 26 50 0.342 23.0 13-33 1-13 17-20 9-30 1-9 L 2
Boston 23 53 0.303 26.0 15-31 7-8 12-26 11-27 3-7 L 3

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Apr 9 2007, 05:44 PM

A few BIG games tonight. First and formost is Kicks/stones... then both the Supersonics and the trailblazers are playing.

Posted by: chilord Apr 9 2007, 11:01 PM

Muhahahaha.

I love it when a plan comes together. We gotta get these guys tomorrow and really grind in the pain!

Posted by: truthandbasketball Apr 9 2007, 11:12 PM

Pistons down the Knicks for another important New York loss, we get our shot tomorrow at the UC to help to eliminate them from the playoffs!!! Here comes the nail in the coffin from your hated rivals, lol. If we get the job done this will really be a beautiful thing!!! Go Bulls!!!

Current Knicks Record: 32-45

April 10th – Bulls
April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

Orlando 36 41 0.468 14.0 22-25 7-7 23-16 13-25 6-4 W 2
Indiana 34 42 0.447 15.5 24-22 7-8 22-17 12-25 4-6 W 2
New York 32 45 0.416 18.0 21-26 3-10 19-21 13-24 2-8 L 1
Philadelphia 31 45 0.408 18.5 20-26 7-7 20-18 11-27 5-5 W 1
Charlotte 31 47 0.397 19.5 22-26 8-7 19-20 12-27 6-4 W 1
Atlanta 28 49 0.364 22.0 15-32 5-10 16-22 12-27 2-8 L 1
Milwaukee 26 51 0.338 24.0 13-34 1-13 17-21 9-30 1-9 L 3
Boston 23 53 0.303 26.5 15-31 7-8 12-26 11-27 3-7 L 3

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Apr 10 2007, 08:06 AM

Tonight is the night. Help yourselves out here boys!

Posted by: chilord Apr 10 2007, 08:38 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PRICELESS!!!!

Posted by: eddog2 Apr 10 2007, 09:15 PM

Charlotte, Sacramento, Philly all win and are now tied in the win column with the Knicks. The Knicks get spanked by the Bulls.

Philly, Minnesota, & Sacramento are all in front of the Knicks b/c they have 1 less loss.

Knicks currently the 8th worst team w/ Portland, Seattle & Charlotte either a half game or 1 game behind.

Charlotte plays Chicago, Milwaukee, New York (the last game against New York will likely determine who has the worst record.)

Seattle plays Phoenix, Portland, LAL, Dallas (pray that those teams don't care about winning in the final week)

Portland plays LAC, Seattle, Utah, Golden State. They are not likely to pass the Knicks unless those teams play their reserves.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Apr 10 2007, 09:36 PM

Bulls torch the Knicks for a massive win at the UC tonight!!!! Philly got it done against the Pacers to leapfrog the Knicks, Charlotte beat a Shaqless Heat team, Atlanta beat the Celtics and in the West the Kings got a W over the Grizz. As eddog2 mentioned that leaves New York with the 8th worst record with 4 more games to play.

Current Knicks Record: 32-46

April 13th – Nets
April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

East
New Jersey 37 40 0.481 13.0 27-20 8-6 22-17 15-23 6-4 W 2
Orlando 36 41 0.468 14.0 22-25 7-7 23-16 13-25 6-4 W 2
Indiana 34 43 0.442 16.0 24-23 7-8 22-17 12-26 4-6 L 1
Philadelphia 32 45 0.416 18.0 21-26 7-7 21-18 11-27 6-4 W 2
New York 32 46 0.410 18.5 21-27 3-10 19-21 13-25 2-8 L 2
Charlotte 32 47 0.405 19.0 23-26 9-7 20-20 12-27 6-4 W 2
Atlanta 29 49 0.372 21.5 16-32 5-10 17-22 12-27 2-8 W 1
Milwaukee 26 51 0.338 24.0 13-34 1-13 17-21 9-30 1-9 L 3
Boston 23 54 0.299 27.0 15-32 7-8 12-26 11-28 3-7 L 4

West
Golden State 38 40 0.487 26.5 24-24 5-10 28-11 10-29 6-4 W 1
L.A. Clippers 37 40 0.481 27.0 20-27 6-7 24-14 13-26 6-4 L 3
New Orleans 37 41 0.474 27.5 21-27 6-9 24-16 13-25 6-4 W 2
Minnesota 32 45 0.416 32.0 18-29 6-9 20-18 12-27 3-7 L 2
Sacramento 32 45 0.416 32.0 17-30 4-9 20-18 12-27 3-7 W 1
Portland 31 46 0.403 33.0 18-29 6-8 17-21 14-25 4-6 L 2
Seattle 31 47 0.397 33.5 18-30 8-7 20-20 11-27 4-6 L 1
Memphis 19 60 0.241 46.0 11-38 1-14 12-27 7-33 2-8 L 6

Posted by: ldf Apr 12 2007, 07:48 PM

some teams at 31 or 32, this is coming to an exciting ending for the season with ref to the knick pick.

Posted by: SoxFan1 Apr 13 2007, 08:02 PM

Knicks lose 100-86 against NJ tonight.

Posted by: chilord Apr 13 2007, 08:43 PM

Sweet. NY has truly gone into the crapper, it's a beautiful thing!

Posted by: ChWRoCk2 Apr 13 2007, 10:35 PM

Guarantees us their lottery pick after that loss.

Posted by: chilord Apr 13 2007, 10:41 PM

Attention New Yawk crybabies:

All your lottery pick are belong to us.

Posted by: SoxFan1 Apr 13 2007, 11:01 PM

Posted by: truthandbasketball Apr 13 2007, 11:52 PM

Wow!!!! Knicks lose again, this time to the Nets. They are officially eliminated from playoffs!!!! How sweet it is, How sweet it is!
After the game the Knicks started a fight because they wanted to end the game at halftime and said the Nets were just showboating by playing the third and fourth quarters. As this was happening a lone tear fell down Spike Lee's cheek.

"With the fourth pick in 2007 NBA Draft the Chicago Bulls select...... "

Current Knicks Record: 32-47

April 15th – Raptors
April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

East
Orlando 36 42 0.462 14.5 22-26 7-7 23-16 13-26 5-5 L 1
Indiana 35 44 0.443 16.0 25-24 8-8 22-17 13-27 4-6 L 1
Philadelphia 33 45 0.423 17.5 22-26 8-7 21-18 12-27 7-3 W 3
New York 32 47 0.405 19.0 21-28 3-11 19-21 13-26 2-8 L 3
Charlotte 32 48 0.400 19.5 23-27 9-7 20-20 12-28 6-4 L 1
Atlanta 29 50 0.367 22.0 16-33 5-11 17-23 12-27 2-8 L 1
Milwaukee 27 52 0.342 24.0 14-35 1-14 17-22 10-30 2-8 W 1
Boston 23 56 0.291 28.0 15-34 7-9 12-28 11-28 3-7 L 6

West
L.A. Clippers 39 40 0.494 26.0 22-27 7-7 25-14 14-26 6-4 W 2
Golden State 39 40 0.494 26.0 25-24 6-10 28-11 11-29 7-3 W 2
New Orleans 37 42 0.468 28.0 21-28 6-9 24-17 13-25 6-4 L 1
Minnesota 32 47 0.405 33.0 18-31 6-9 20-20 12-27 2-8 L 4
Sacramento 32 47 0.405 33.0 17-32 4-10 20-19 12-28 3-7 L 2
Seattle 31 48 0.392 34.0 18-31 8-7 20-20 11-28 4-6 L 2
Portland 31 48 0.392 34.0 18-31 6-8 17-22 14-26 2-8 L 4
Memphis 19 60 0.241 46.0 11-38 1-14 12-27 7-33 2-8 L 6

Posted by: Balta1701-B Apr 14 2007, 03:36 PM

Seattle: @ Portland, @ LA Lakers, Dallas.

Portland: v Seattle, @ Utah, v. Golden state.

Posted by: GreatScott82 Apr 14 2007, 03:45 PM

ahahaha i love it!! THat would be amazing if we can somehow draw a top 5 pick again. Can you guys imagine Noah coming here?

Posted by: SoxFan1 Apr 14 2007, 11:28 PM

I'd be relatively dissapointed to be honest. Horford yes, Noah...meh.

Posted by: Bullseye Apr 14 2007, 11:41 PM

yuck... I don't want a much uglier and much overrated version of Tyson Chandler here...

Posted by: eddog2 Apr 15 2007, 12:52 AM

Charlotte officially passed the Knicks in the win column tonight. At 33-48 Charlotte is ahead of New York who is 32-47. Charlotte's last game is against the Knicks. We have to hope that Charlotte beats the Knicks or else they'll end up tied. I believe when 1 or more teams tie in terms of record, a coin is tossed to determine who gets one more combination in the draft. It would be far better if Charlotte maintained a better record instead of tying.

Seattle still could pass the Knicks or tie if they win their las two games. We really need the Knicks to lose out or there could be a 4 team tie when it's all said and done.

Posted by: SoxFan1 Apr 15 2007, 01:52 PM

Go Sonics and Bobcats!

Posted by: chilord Apr 15 2007, 02:04 PM

I don't think our friends up north are going to be in the mood to grant the Nix any mercy tonight. Raptors, you have our dirty work to do tonight!

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Apr 15 2007, 05:47 PM

The bad news is that the Knicks are playing the Raptors hard and currently lead by 4. The good news is sacramento won and Philly is winning.

Posted by: GreatScott82 Apr 15 2007, 06:00 PM

Noah will be much better than Chandler will ever be in the NBA. He also has basketball smarts, knows the fundamentals and can score down in the post. That is something Chandler struggled to do while with us. Chandler had no hands down low, Noah does. Paxon has a history of drafting proven winners at the college level and if Horford is off the board come the Bulls pick (probably 6-10th overall) I expect him to draft Noah. The one thing i do know that is similar between Noah and Chandler is they both are damn energetic! If anything that is the one thing I miss about Tyson. So if Pax can somehow draft Horford or Noah... all i have to say is thank you knicks

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Apr 15 2007, 06:29 PM

Noah has virtually no post scoring ability whatsoever, any scouting report you read will tell you that. He's a lot closer to Anderson Varejao than Tyson Chandler with scoring ability. That (and the fact that he is already 22 and is arguably the third best prospect/player ON HIS TEAM much less in the draft) is why his draft stock has been steadily sliding...

He'd help us, but I'd MUCH rather have Horford...

Posted by: eddog2 Apr 15 2007, 06:52 PM

Knicks down 4 with 2.2 seconds. Put it in the bag. Philly also won. They are two wins ahead of NY which means they will likely finish the year with a better record than the Knicks. Charlotte is 1 win ahead.

Portland and Minnesota are currently tied with NY with records of 32-48. It sucks that KG is hurt. Seattle is 31-49 and they play LA tonight. Go Seattle.

Even if Seattle loses out the rest of the season, the Knicks could still end as the 6th worst team if the other teams take care of business.



Okay its official. Knicks lose 107-105

Posted by: steve9347 Apr 15 2007, 08:20 PM

If the Knicks end up with the 6th worst record, I have an eerily good feeling about our chances at a top-2 pick.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Apr 16 2007, 12:59 AM

Knicks bomb again to lose their 48th of the year. I guess the Bulls and Knicks are both chasing 50 but in different directions. Philly and Sacto get a win a piece. This and the Bulls blowout of the Wizards completes a perfect day. New Jersey and Charlotte come on and give em hell!!!! Go Blazers and T- Wolves!!!!

Current Knicks Record: 32-48

April 16th – Nets (Home)
April 18th - Bobcats

East
Orlando 38 42 0.475 13.0 24-26 7-7 24-16 14-26 6-4 W 2
Indiana 35 45 0.438 16.0 25-25 8-8 22-18 13-27 4-6 L 2
Philadelphia 34 46 0.425 17.0 23-27 8-7 21-19 13-27 6-4 W 1
Charlotte 33 48 0.407 18.5 24-27 9-7 20-20 13-28 7-3 W 1
New York 32 48 0.400 19.0 21-29 3-12 19-21 13-27 2-8 L 4
Atlanta 29 51 0.363 22.0 16-34 5-11 17-23 12-28 2-8 L 2
Milwaukee 27 53 0.338 24.0 14-36 1-14 17-23 10-30 2-8 L 1
Boston 23 57 0.288 28.0 15-35 7-9 12-28 11-29 2-8 L 7

West
Golden State 40 40 0.500 26.0 26-24 6-10 29-11 11-29 7-3 W 3
L.A. Clippers 39 41 0.488 27.0 22-28 7-8 25-15 14-26 5-5 L 1
New Orleans 37 43 0.463 29.0 21-29 6-10 24-17 13-26 5-5 L 2
Sacramento 33 47 0.413 33.0 18-32 5-10 20-19 13-28 3-7 W 1
Portland 32 48 0.400 34.0 19-31 7-8 18-22 14-26 3-7 W 1
Minnesota 32 48 0.400 34.0 18-32 6-9 20-20 12-28 2-8 L 5
Seattle 31 50 0.383 35.5 18-33 8-8 20-20 11-30 2-8 L 4
Memphis 20 60 0.250 46.0 12-38 1-14 13-27 7-33 3-7 W 1

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Apr 16 2007, 10:06 AM

All right boys, finish it off like the pathetic losers that you are!

Posted by: chilord Apr 16 2007, 08:13 PM

Pathetic loss #49 is in the books! 104-95 to the Nets! at the pathetic Knicks!

Posted by: bulls91 Apr 16 2007, 09:24 PM

well looks like we will be getting a very high pick around the #5-7 depending on the draft lottery. that will be very nice down the road:)

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Apr 16 2007, 09:51 PM

We're looking at a tie for 5th at the absolute best, I'm not sure how all the tie-breakers would work out between them, Seattle, Portland, and Minnesota...

Still one major hurdle to clear for them, that'd REALLY hurt if they beat Charlotte...

Posted by: truthandbasketball Apr 16 2007, 11:14 PM

Current Knicks Record: 32-49

Down to the final game of the year. Can we get a 50?? C'mon Isiah you're so great at losing, just one more buddy
Go Blazers , Sonics and T-Wolves!!!!

Remaining Knicks Game
April 18th - Bobcats

Other important games Wednesday
Blazers vs Warriors
Wolves vs Grizzlies
Sonics vs Jazz

East
New Jersey 40 41 0.494 11.5 30-21 10-6 23-17 17-24 7-3 W 3
Orlando 38 42 0.475 13.0 24-26 7-7 24-16 14-26 6-4 W 2
Indiana 35 45 0.438 16.0 25-25 8-8 22-18 13-27 4-6 L 2
Philadelphia 34 46 0.425 17.0 23-27 8-7 21-19 13-27 6-4 W 1
Charlotte 33 48 0.407 18.5 24-27 9-7 20-20 13-28 7-3 W 1
New York 32 49 0.395 19.5 21-30 3-13 19-22 13-27 1-9 L 5
Atlanta 29 52 0.358 22.5 16-35 5-11 17-23 12-29 2-8 L 3
Milwaukee 28 53 0.346 23.5 15-36 1-14 18-23 10-30 3-7 W 1
Boston 24 57 0.296 27.5 16-35 7-9 12-28 12-29 2-8 W 1

West
Golden State 40 40 0.500 26.0 26-24 6-10 29-11 11-29 7-3 W 3
L.A. Clippers 39 41 0.488 27.0 22-28 7-8 25-15 14-26 5-5 L 1
New Orleans 38 43 0.469 28.5 22-29 6-10 24-17 14-26 6-4 W 1
Sacramento 33 48 0.407 33.5 18-33 5-10 20-20 13-28 3-7 L 1
Portland 32 49 0.395 34.5 19-32 7-9 18-22 14-27 3-7 L 1
Minnesota 32 49 0.395 34.5 18-33 6-10 20-20 12-29 2-8 L 6
Seattle 31 50 0.383 35.5 18-33 8-8 20-20 11-30 2-8 L 4
Memphis 21 60 0.259 45.5 13-38 2-14 14-27 7-33 4-6 W 2

Posted by: eddog2 Apr 17 2007, 10:08 PM

Best scenario would be Golden State winning tonight and LA Clippers losing. That would mean that tomorrow, GS would probably rest their starters b/c they would have clinched the 8th spot already. I'm going to be very upset if the Wolves don't beat the Grizzlies.

Posted by: kyyle23 Apr 18 2007, 02:31 PM

It is truly amazing how much Paxson got for trading Eddy Curry, who nobody was really after because of his supposed heart condition. I dont hear many talking heads on the score or espn1000 complaining like they were 3 months ago about Paxson getting ripped off on that deal.

Posted by: steve9347 Apr 18 2007, 02:34 PM

I don't think there was anyone who was fully happy with that deal when it happened... I was dumbfounded that we couldn't get more.

However, 2 seasons later, it's become one of the best trades in the history of the NBA... and if the lottery ball falls the right way next month...

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Apr 18 2007, 08:17 PM

Knicks win the last one versus Charlotte 94-93, seriously screwing things up.

Posted by: eddog2 Apr 18 2007, 10:45 PM

What has it really gotten us? If we had kept Eddy we'd be in the finals this year. Does anyone ever think about that?

It got us Sweetney (garbage), Tyrus (potential star), & a draft pick (which hopefully turns into a star). The draft pick is unproven until it does something. And Tyrus is not Curry at least not yet.

I really think the Bulls would be better ofg if they would have just kept Curry and Chandler. We'd have a rediculously young lineup that would be in the finals in my estimation.

Either way, the Bulls still have promise with the pick this year and with Tyrus's development. But don't discount what we gave up in order to get an old Wallace.

Eddy Curry made $8+ million this year. He won't even make over $10 until 2010 and that's a player option year. He'll likely opt out if he continues to improve.

If the Bulls would have signed Curry to that kind of contract they easily could have signed Chandler to less then what they did and they would have been able to keep both players. Instead, they traded away Curry essentially giving all the negotiating power to Chandler and his agent b/c they couldn't lose both big men in one season.

There's no doubt in my mind that this team would have been better without the deal and keeping everyone in Chicago.

So in essence the trade and letting Chandler go delayed our chances of winning a title for a couple of years if not longer b/c who knows how long it will take for our rookies to develop.

Eddy and Tyson had career years.

Eddy (24 years old $8.1M) averaged 19.4 ppg, 7 rpg, 57.6% FG, while playing 35 minutes per game.
Tyson (24 years old, $9M) averaged 9.5 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 62.4% FG, 1.8 bpg while playing 34 minutes per game.

Damn thats some good production.

I would much rather face Miami with a lineup of

Curry Wallace
Chandler/Nocioni PJ/Noc/Tyrus
Deng Deng/Noc
Gordon Gordon
Hinrich instead of Hinrich


Ben Wallace (32 years old $16M) 6.4ppg, 10.7 rpg, 45.3% FG, 2.0 bpg, 1.4 spg, 41% FT (35.1 minutes per)
PJ Brown (60 years old $8M) 6ppg, 4.8 rpg, 40% FG, .7 bpg (20.1 minutes)

Talk about pathetic production and shooting percentage from your starting 4/5 positions.

Damn for as much as we paid Wallace we could have afforded both Eddy and Tyson. That sucks.

Posted by: truthandbasketball Apr 19 2007, 09:11 AM

After the Bulls loss I almost forgot about the Knicks but they managed to get the W and mess things up even more. With this result they finish in a 3-way tie for 7th worst team in the entire league. Theres a two-way tie for 6th worst so that means the worst case scenario could be that they finished in 10th place.

Final Regular Season Standings

East
Detroit 53 29 0.646 0.0 36-16 9-7 26-15 27-14 7-3 W 2
Cleveland 50 32 0.610 3.0 31-21 10-6 30-11 20-21 7-3 W 4
Toronto 47 35 0.573 6.0 33-19 11-5 30-11 17-24 7-3 L 2
Miami 44 38 0.537 9.0 27-25 9-7 27-14 17-24 5-5 L 2
Chicago 49 33 0.598 4.0 36-16 12-4 31-10 18-23 7-3 L 1
New Jersey 41 41 0.500 12.0 31-21 10-6 24-17 17-24 8-2 W 4
Washington 41 41 0.500 12.0 27-25 8-8 26-15 15-26 2-8 W 1
Orlando 40 42 0.488 13.0 26-26 9-7 25-16 15-26 7-3 W 4
Indiana 35 47 0.427 18.0 25-27 8-8 22-19 13-28 4-6 L 4
Philadelphia 35 47 0.427 18.0 24-28 9-7 21-20 14-27 6-4 W 1
Charlotte 33 49 0.402 20.0 24-28 9-7 20-21 13-28 6-4 L 1
New York 33 49 0.402 20.0 22-30 3-13 19-22 14-27 2-8 W 1
Atlanta 30 52 0.366 23.0 17-35 5-11 18-23 12-29 3-7 W 1
Milwaukee 28 54 0.341 25.0 15-37 1-15 18-23 10-31 3-7 L 1
Boston 24 58 0.293 29.0 16-36 7-9 12-29 12-29 2-8 L 1

West
Dallas 67 15 0.817 0.0 40-12 14-2 36-5 31-10 6-4 W 1
Phoenix 61 21 0.744 6.0 36-16 11-5 33-8 28-13 7-3 L 2
San Antonio 58 24 0.707 9.0 38-14 10-6 31-10 27-14 6-4 L 3
Utah 51 31 0.622 16.0 32-20 10-6 31-10 20-21 4-6 W 2
Houston 52 30 0.634 15.0 28-24 8-8 28-13 24-17 6-4 L 1
Denver 45 37 0.549 22.0 27-25 9-7 23-18 22-19 9-1 W 2
L.A. Lakers 42 40 0.512 25.0 28-24 10-6 25-16 17-24 4-6 W 2
Golden State 42 40 0.512 25.0 28-24 6-10 30-11 12-29 9-1 W 5
L.A. Clippers 40 42 0.488 27.0 23-29 8-8 25-16 15-26 5-5 L 1
New Orleans 39 43 0.476 28.0 23-29 6-10 24-17 15-26 7-3 W 2
Sacramento 33 49 0.402 34.0 18-34 5-11 20-21 13-28 3-7 L 2
Portland 32 50 0.390 35.0 19-33 7-9 18-23 14-27 3-7 L 2
Minnesota 32 50 0.390 35.0 18-34 6-10 20-21 12-29 2-8 L 7
Seattle 31 51 0.378 36.0 18-34 8-8 20-21 11-30 1-9 L 5
Memphis 22 60 0.268 45.0 14-38 2-14 14-27 8-33 4-6 W 3

7 - Sacramento, New York, Charlotte
6 - Minnesota, Portland
5 - Seattle
4 - Atlanta
3 - Milwaukee
2 - Boston
1 - Memphis

I'm not sure how to go about calculating our odds in the draft lottery without some guesswork but I would predict we'll most likely end up with a pick somewhere between 6 and 9.
Who do you think will be the first five selected based on team needs?
Who would you take with the 6th pick were it to fall our way????

NBADraft.net has the following predicted picks as of Tuesday -

1. Memphis - Greg Oden
2. Boston - Kevin Durant
3. Milwaukee - Brandon Wright
4. Phoenix (from Atlanta) - Al Horford
5. Seattle - Jianlian Yi
6. Chicago (from New York)- Jeff Green
7. Portland - Corey Brewer
8. Minnesota - Roy Hibbert
9. Charlotte - Julian Wright
10. Sacramento - Nicolas Batum
11. Philadelphia - Joakim Noah
12. Atlanta - Mike Conley
13. New Orleans - Al Thornton
14. LA Clippers - Spencer Hawes
15. Detroit - Hasheem Thabeet

The last thing we need is another SF so theres no way I'd select Green, If this was the scenario I'd take Hibbert with that pick because we really ideally need that solid inside prescence.

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Apr 19 2007, 10:34 AM

The Bulls will be somewhere between 8-10 in the lottery order thanks to that Knicks' win. Unless I'm mistaken the pick will be there unless we get lucky and make the top 3.

That ranking is pretty decent, only probably bump Noah up above Green and knock the rest down. Hawes will also probably go a bit higher.

Posted by: soxfan101 Apr 19 2007, 04:31 PM

so its top3 or bust?

Posted by: eddog2 Apr 19 2007, 08:50 PM

Not with Conelly declaring. Conelly's going to be a top 10 pick.

Oden
Durant
Wright
Wright
Horford
Brewer
Conelly
Yi
Noah
Hibbert
Green
Batum
Thabeet

I highly doubt Hawes will go higher than 13. From everything I've heard he's a an under athletic big man with good skill. That doesn't translate well when you have all these athletic players ahead of you. Also, the Clippers have the 14th pick and they certainly don't need another Kaman. I doubt he'll even be as good as Kaman.

But then again, there's always a team willing to gamble on a big man.

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Apr 19 2007, 11:03 PM

Hawes will minimally go ahead of Thabeet (considering the guy has no skills at all at this point and clearly needs at least one more year on the Okafor/Armstrong development plan), and could easily go higher considering how much teams love big guys. Big guys tend to climb the board a lot more frequently and faster than perimeter guys. I would say he's around a draw with Hibbert in terms of talent, though he didn't have a chance to shine in the tourney. He's definitely more skilled offensively, though Hibbert is stronger. He's not a bad athlete, just not a really good one, and he's a VERY good offensive player. He'd be a solid fit for what the Bulls need, he can do some damage with his back to the basket and can hit the mid-range jumper.

He's easily a lower lottery player with the potential to move up MAYBE around 8, though that's not too likely. He's very likely to perform better than Hibbert in the combine and workouts, and based on need some of those wing players could slip. Once you get past Oden, Durant, Brandan Wright, and Horford things are fairly up in the air (though there are a few others he won't pass like Yi, at least one of the wing players, plus Conley, maybe Noah but he's sliding). Remember, at this time last year Rudy Gay was a near lock for #3, Rodney Carney looked like a probable top-10, Sheldon Williams looked like an early teens pick, and Mohammed Saer-Sane was closer to 20 than 10 on most boards. Draft stocks can change a lot between now and then, and 7-footers that can score don't usually drop.

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Apr 20 2007, 02:23 PM

Knicks got #9 in the lottery draft order due to tie-breakers. They have a 1.9% chance of getting the first pick.

Posted by: GreatScott82 Apr 20 2007, 04:55 PM

I think it was 1993 where the Magic had the lowest chance to win the lottery and they won. I believe they drafter Chris Weber and traded the rights to him for Afernee Hardaway to the Warriors. So although it is very unlikely to happen, it still is possible to get that #1 pick.

Posted by: scatterbrain Apr 22 2007, 01:45 AM

Like most (it seems) I'd like to see us get someone with a lot of size. Assuming we don't get a top 3 or 4 pick, I really like Hibbert. His size and strength would be a great asset. He is solid on the defensive end, and can pass quite well. Plus for a 7'2 guy of his build he seems to run fairly well. If we drop back another spot or two in the draft I would probably take Noah. I don't think Hawes would be an awful maybe 8-10 pick for a team that needs a center. He's young, runs very well, and seems to be extremely versatile even at mid-range to have such effective post skills on the offensive end. If he bulks up over the next few years I think he could have a lot of upside for someone. Its definitely a while away though... workouts will be interesting to watch develop over the next month.

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Apr 23 2007, 08:19 AM

That really is a solid pick. Now we have to wait for the lottery, and cross our fingers that maybe we can jump up into the top 3, but really hope that no one else hops in front of us. Obvious we know what will happen if we end up #1 or #2, but who do we pick if we end up at the #3 slot?

Posted by: soxfan3530 Apr 23 2007, 10:25 AM

does anyone know when the lottery is? I know its during the playoffs sometime, but dont remember exactly when.

Posted by: wennington34 Apr 23 2007, 10:32 AM

The Lottery is Tuesday, May 22nd.
The Draft is Thursday, June 28th

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Apr 23 2007, 10:47 AM

I would guess we'd take Horford, or possibly Jianlian if he dominates the combine/workouts. Brandan Wright is generally considered to be the #3 prospect, but his frame is very similar to Tyrus and I'm not sure we want two players like that...

Posted by: soxfan3530 Apr 23 2007, 11:39 AM

Thanks!

Posted by: truthandbasketball Apr 23 2007, 12:12 PM

If the heavens opened and shined down on Chicago with the number 3 pick we'd be in great shape. Yeah its not Oden or Durant but the depth of this draft is the key. This no high school rule couldnt have come at a better time for the Bulls. We'll end up with a future star if we get the third pick. I like Horford with that pick right now because he seems like hes got the goods after a nice championship game. Yi is still somewhat of a mystery at this point but if hes as good as they say (and actually 19 ) we'll find out soon.

As the sleeper pick that we could possibly snag in the second round Ive got my eye on Tiago Splitter from Brazil. Went undrafted last year but seems to be the type that could take his game to the NBA level. At 6'11 with tons of athleticism hes a defensive and offensive threat. The kid is also a great shooter and can step out beyond the arc. Only real weakness seems to be his lack of muscles but hed be like adding a poor man's Dirk, Okur or Bargnani to our team. Once we have already drafted our big post prescence this guy might be a real steal if hes still available in the second round.
Here's his profile,


http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/tiagosplitter.asp

Posted by: ZoomSlowik Apr 23 2007, 12:19 PM

That'd work if he slips, but everything I've seen has him pretty solidly in the first round. That site has him at 22, Chad Ford has him at 21, and draftexpress has him at 11 for some reason . We'd have to get lucky and hope his buyout is a major issue for a lot of teams.

Posted by: beau_boy04 Apr 30 2007, 08:40 PM

you guys do realize if they dont call us at 9,10,11 then we will definitely be getting 1,2,3 right?

Greg Oden is ours to keep! I'll send my prayers above, hopefully the gods above are listening to us.

I would love either Oden or Durant.

C Oden
F B Wallace
F Deng
G Gordon
G Kirk

or

C B Wallace
F Durant
F Deng
G Gordon
G Kirk

I like either scenario. Please David Stern just make it happen. Alot of teams were in tanking mode and you know it - memphis, boston, atlanta just to mention a few but when you look at a team like NY who fought hard until the last time and never gave up then you need to reward them with the top pick in the 2007 nba draft just like you did in 1985 when there were claims about you rigging it for them to get Patrick Ewing

Alright guys just cheer up and hope for the best