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> First Bulls that needs to be traded!, My vote is for Kirk
eddog2
post May 10 2007, 11:19 PM
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Here's how Kirk stacks up against other PG in the league.

7 games of the playoffs,

Kirk Hinrich

37.8% FG, 10.57 PPG, 5.85 APG, 9-28 from 3 (32%), 6 stls (.85 stls) (The only thing he's done well is shoot free throws. But he can't even draw fouls effectively. He's gone to the line 11 times in 7 games. That's just stupid. Quit being a girl and get some contact down low.)


Baron Davis

26.3 PPG, 54% FG, 43.5% 3pt, 6.0 APG, 2.0 SPG (51 free throw attempts)


Deron Williams

18.0 PPG, 44.9% FG, 25.8% 3pt, 9.0 APG, 1.22 SPG, (37 free throw attempts)

Steve Nash

18.7 PPG, 46.1% FG, 45% 3pt, 13.4 APG, (29 free thows)


It's just rediculous that the most important player on our team gets outplayed this bad by the premiere PG's in the league. I don't mind the scoring but the other stuff he is/isn't doing is hurting our team.

Either Kirk needs to go or we need to find a PG and move him to SG. I prefer that he just go in some package with Nocioni and then we draft Mike Conley. However, maybe we just need to trade Kirk & Gordon b/c Mike Conley/Gordon would be a even smaller backcourt.

We need a true playmaker or a PG that makes plays for others. Right now we have neither and that's why we can't get over the hump. So I say make some bold moves now or we are going to be in this situation for several years. Unless we get the number 1 or 2 pick and we get a playmaker, we are going to have to rely on hitting jumpers to win. And without a PG to create open jumpers at will it will be hard to win titles. I pray for the number 1 or 2 pick but if not Kirk has to go.

No only will he be very overpaid next year, but he hasn't really shown any improvement in his game other than hitting the 3 at a better clip. His assits haven't gotten better, I would argue that his defense hasn't really improved. Nothing about his game other than his shooting % showed improvement. At least with Gordon and Deng you could see the improvement. He's turning 26. I really don't see him becoming a premiere PG. So trade him will his value and contract are relatively high and start this thing over before you waste 3 more years off Wallace and Deng.
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- eddog2   First Bulls that needs to be traded!   May 10 2007, 11:19 PM
- - rangercal   Keep this core: Wallace C Deng SF Tyrus PF Thabo S...   May 10 2007, 11:31 PM
- - TeaLeafReaderII   holy overeaction batman   May 10 2007, 11:38 PM
- - ZoomSlowik   God, could we come up with some higher standards? ...   May 10 2007, 11:39 PM
- - TeaLeafReaderII   This team just needs a solid post player to take t...   May 10 2007, 11:42 PM
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|- - ChWRoCk2   QUOTE (eddog2 @ May 11 2007, 12:43 AM) I ...   May 11 2007, 12:01 AM
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|||- - TeaLeafReaderII   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 11 2007, 11:36 AM...   May 11 2007, 12:21 PM
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||- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (eddog2 @ May 11 2007, 01:09 AM) As...   May 11 2007, 10:37 AM
||- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 11 2007, 11:30 AM...   May 11 2007, 03:54 PM
||- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ May 11 2007,...   May 11 2007, 10:58 PM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (eddog2 @ May 11 2007, 12:43 AM) We...   May 11 2007, 12:04 AM
- - scatterbrain   Now I am not saying that anyone on our team is irr...   May 11 2007, 04:30 AM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   I like your idea if only there was some way we cou...   May 11 2007, 07:29 AM
- - Balta1701-B   If Mr. Conley falls to our pick, this type of talk...   May 11 2007, 09:51 AM
- - patman1868   I dont see why the bulls would trade Hinrich when ...   May 11 2007, 09:58 AM
- - eddog2   Now that's the type of post you should have co...   May 11 2007, 10:34 AM
- - eddog2   I wasn't excited about the assist to turnover ...   May 11 2007, 10:42 AM
- - Sanitarium   I would actually be in favor of getting rid of Duh...   May 11 2007, 02:18 PM
|- - Balta1701-B   QUOTE (Sanitarium @ May 11 2007, 01:11 PM...   May 13 2007, 12:00 AM
- - soxfan3530   Im not in favor of panicking and blowing this thin...   May 11 2007, 02:57 PM
- - TeaLeafReaderII   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 11 2007, 11:40 PM...   May 13 2007, 09:59 AM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (TeaLeafReaderII @ May 13 2007, 09...   May 13 2007, 03:16 PM
|- - TeaLeafReaderII   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 13 2007, 04:09 PM...   May 14 2007, 06:59 PM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (TeaLeafReaderII @ May 14 2007, 07...   May 14 2007, 08:01 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 14 2007, 08:54 PM...   May 15 2007, 03:19 PM
- - SoxFan1   I think we should definitely trade Kirk following ...   May 13 2007, 04:28 PM
|- - chilord   QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ May 13 2007, 05:21 PM) I...   May 13 2007, 04:34 PM
||- - SoxFan1   QUOTE (chilord @ May 13 2007, 05:27 PM) L...   May 13 2007, 04:42 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ May 13 2007, 05:21 PM) I...   May 13 2007, 10:26 PM
- - TeaLeafReaderII   As long as we are serving up crow. Now that Skile...   May 13 2007, 05:01 PM
- - Bullseye   What type of player do you think we could get from...   May 13 2007, 10:07 PM
|- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   QUOTE (Bullseye @ May 13 2007, 11:00 PM) ...   May 13 2007, 10:17 PM
|- - SoxFan1   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ May 13 2007,...   May 13 2007, 10:20 PM
- - RME JICO   Hinrich might not be good on the offensive end, bu...   May 14 2007, 06:46 AM
- - Sense-A   threads like this are stupid. You're talking a...   May 15 2007, 08:37 PM
|- - SoxFan1   QUOTE (Sense-A @ May 15 2007, 09:30 ...   May 15 2007, 09:03 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (Sense-A @ May 15 2007, 09:30 ...   May 16 2007, 10:59 PM
- - TeaLeafReaderII   QUOTE (eddog2 @ May 13 2007, 11:19 PM) Wh...   May 15 2007, 09:04 PM
- - madisonsmadhouse   The irony is without Kirk Hinrich, the rest of the...   May 16 2007, 11:55 AM
|- - Sense-A   QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ May 16 2007, 11...   May 16 2007, 07:09 PM
- - ZoomSlowik   While I agree that Kirk isn't our best player, I a...   May 17 2007, 10:45 AM
- - allbullz   I agree with the original poster, Hinrich needs to...   May 17 2007, 08:52 PM
|- - scareybullsfan   QUOTE (allbullz @ May 17 2007, 08:45 PM) ...   May 17 2007, 09:07 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (scareybullsfan @ May 17 2007, 10:0...   May 17 2007, 09:23 PM
|- - scareybullsfan   QUOTE (eddog2 @ May 17 2007, 09:16 PM) I ...   May 18 2007, 06:58 AM
- - scatterbrain   Now, I'll admit that I am totally biased consi...   May 17 2007, 09:08 PM
- - RME JICO   Hinrich is fine. He guards the other teams best g...   May 17 2007, 09:37 PM
- - SoxFan1   I have an idea. We trade Tyrus Thomas and Viktor K...   May 17 2007, 09:40 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ May 17 2007, 10:33 PM) I...   May 17 2007, 09:42 PM
|- - SoxFan1   QUOTE (eddog2 @ May 17 2007, 10:35 PM) Wh...   May 17 2007, 09:53 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   Im still on the trade Kirk and or Ben bandwagon. W...   May 18 2007, 10:47 AM
|- - AirScott   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ May 18 2007,...   May 18 2007, 12:30 PM
|- - Butterbean10   QUOTE (AirScott @ May 18 2007, 01:23 PM) ...   May 18 2007, 03:17 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (Butterbean10 @ May 18 2007, 04:10 ...   May 19 2007, 12:42 AM
- - SoxFan1   This Tyrus talk is making my brain hurt. Trade Kir...   May 18 2007, 06:55 PM
- - Bullseye   I say keep the core + lottery pick, and get anothe...   May 19 2007, 12:45 AM
- - Sanitarium   Trading Gordon would put all the scoring pressure ...   May 19 2007, 09:50 AM


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