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Jake
post Jul 1 2012, 09:50 AM
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Hearing Rockets prepared to offer Omer Asik in the $8 million range annually. trib.in/LNlL23

The most talked about offer so far is Houston offering a deal that is 2 years at $5M/per, then the next 2 years at $11M/per

Sayonara, if you ask me. Hopefully we can do a sign and trade but we'll have to beware of the bluff
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post Jul 1 2012, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 1 2012, 10:50 AM) *
K.C JohnsonKCJHoop 11 hrs
Hearing Rockets prepared to offer Omer Asik in the $8 million range annually. trib.in/LNlL23

The most talked about offer so far is Houston offering a deal that is 2 years at $5M/per, then the next 2 years at $11M/per

Sayonara, if you ask me. Hopefully we can do a sign and trade but we'll have to beware of the bluff



If thats the case....HE GONE!
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post Jul 1 2012, 11:43 AM
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You really hate to lose Asik for nothing.
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post Jul 1 2012, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 1 2012, 12:43 PM) *
You really hate to lose Asik for nothing.


A sign and trade is ideal of course, if we're dealing with the Rockets though there's not much I'd want in a deal for just Asik. Could we get Camby back in a sign and trade?? What about Asik, Korver, and a 1st for Kevin Martin??
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post Jul 1 2012, 06:00 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Rockets have reached agreement with Omer Asik on a three-year, $25.1 million contract, league source tells Y! Sports.


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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

As a restricted free agent, the Bulls will have three days to match Asik offer sheet after it's signed on July 11th.


https://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA

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Rockets will sign Omer Asik to 3-year, $25 million deal on July 11. Bulls will have 3 days to match. 3rd year approaches $15 million.


https://twitter.com/#!/KCJHoop

Please don't match Pax!
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post Jul 1 2012, 07:40 PM
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Sign and trade please
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post Jul 1 2012, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 1 2012, 08:40 PM) *
Sign and trade please


Can't sign and trade him to Houston.

Match, explore giving him to Portland.
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post Jul 1 2012, 08:33 PM
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He's gonna be making 15 mill at one point?? you gotta be bleepin me!!

Sign and trade for who though?? Camby?? throw a package together for Martin?? Dragic?? picks??

Henry Sims PLZ

EDIT: why not Houston Q??
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post Jul 1 2012, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 1 2012, 08:19 PM) *
Can't sign and trade him to Houston.

Match, explore giving him to Portland.


can't or won't?

do not match without a trade in place. He is not worth half that contract
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post Jul 2 2012, 01:56 AM
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Nevermind. Since he hasn't signed it yet (can't until 11th), the Bulls can work out a deal. If it gets to that point though, they can't match and trade him to the Rockets for a year.

I told my brother I'd ask for Lamb (jokingly) and he said that you can do better like Kevin Martin, Courtney Lee, or anything, because Lamb will be terrible because he's never played an NBA game and didn't do anything in college (national title?) and that Kemba Walker would make Lamb look like s*** in the NBA.

Remember that he also thinks Luol Deng > Durant in everything that's not scoring, and that that's close. Also Adam Dunn is a below average baseball player for his career, Ozzie was the Sox 2nd greatest SS ever (over Collins and Appling), Rios is terrible this year, etc.

Talking sports can be exhausting with him.
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post Jul 2 2012, 07:03 AM
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If Bulls match, which Gar Forman has consistently said the Bulls plan to do, guarantees Boozer would be amnestied for 2014-15 season. - KCJohnson
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post Jul 2 2012, 07:56 AM
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Just let him go, please.
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post Jul 2 2012, 07:57 AM
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In case anyone's curious about the random cap rule that forced the Rockets to structure the deal like this, here you go:
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Before 2005 it was sometimes possible to sign restricted free agents to offer sheets their original teams couldn't match. This happened when a player was an Early Bird or Non-Bird free agent (see question number 25) and the team didn't have enough cap room to match a sufficiently large offer. For example, Gilbert Arenas was Golden State's second round draft pick in 2001, and became an Early Bird free agent in 2003. Golden State could only match an offer sheet (or sign Arenas directly) for up to the amount of the Early Bird exception, which was about $4.9 million at the time. Washington signed Arenas to an offer sheet with a starting salary of about $8.5 million, which Golden State was powerless to match.

This loophole was addressed starting with the 2005 CBA (although not closed completely -- see below). Teams are now limited in the salary they can offer in an offer sheet to a restricted free agent with one or two years in the league. The first-year salary in the offer sheet cannot be greater than the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (see question number 25). Limiting the first-year salary in this way enables the player's original team to match the offer sheet by using the Early Bird exception (if applicable -- see question number 25), or Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (provided they have it and haven't used it already)1.

The second-year salary in such an offer sheet is limited to the standard 4.5% raise. The third-year salary can jump considerably -- it is allowed to be as high as it would have been had the first-year salary not been limited by this rule to the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception2. The salary in the fourth season may increase (or decrease) by up to 4.1% of the salary in the third season. The offer sheet can only contain the large jump in the third season if it provides the highest salary allowed in the first two seasons, it is fully guaranteed, and it contains no bonuses of any kind.

If the raise in the third season exceeds the standard raise (4.5% of the salary in the first season of the contract), then an additional restriction exists. In order to determine how large the offer can be, the team doesn't just have to fit the first-year salary under the cap. Instead, they must fit the average salary in the entire contract under the cap. So a team $8 million under the cap is limited to offering a total of $24 million over three years, or $32 million over four years. If the offer sheet does not contain a third-season raise larger than 4.5% of the first-season salary, then they only have to fit the first season salary under the cap.

Putting this all together, if a team that is $9 million under the cap in 2011-12 wants to submit a four-year offer sheet, and wants to provide a large raise in the third season, they can offer a total of $36 million over four years. The first-year salary is limited to the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, or $5 million. The second-year salary will be $5.225 million (4.5% raise). This leaves $25.775 million to be distributed over the final two seasons of the contract, with a 4.1% raise from year three to year four.
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post Jul 2 2012, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 2 2012, 09:57 AM) *
In case anyone's curious about the random cap rule that forced the Rockets to structure the deal like this, here you go:

That's actually really helpful. Thanks.
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post Jul 3 2012, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jul 2 2012, 07:03 AM) *
If Bulls match, which Gar Forman has consistently said the Bulls plan to do, guarantees Boozer would be amnestied for 2014-15 season. - KCJohnson


I'd take Boozer over Asik in a heartbeat. Seriously.

Also, I have to think that whether the Bulls plan to match or not, they must give off the impression that they will...it's the only way they may work out a deal.
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