 Bulls/Suns Game Thread, 2 Hottest Teams, Head to Head |
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 Jan 2 2007, 01:28 PM
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Do it!
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Jan 2 2007, 01:32 PM
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Hopefully the boys bring their track shoes today...
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Jan 2 2007, 02:37 PM
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Make the Suns play your game. You cannot win this game if you try to outrun the Suns.
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Jan 2 2007, 02:44 PM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 690 Joined: 15-July 06 From: Elmhurst, IL Member No.: 214 |
This is an important game. Im curious to see how we stack up to the elite teams in the west at home. Im also curious to see how we match up with them athletically.
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Jan 2 2007, 02:49 PM
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Anyone know if Hinrich and Wallace are feeling better and ready to be in the lineup?
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Jan 2 2007, 04:19 PM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 690 Joined: 15-July 06 From: Elmhurst, IL Member No.: 214 |
Hinrichs still listed as day to day but Im sure hell play this game and Wallace isnt onthe injury report at all.
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Jan 2 2007, 04:31 PM
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Skills Competitor Group: Forum Moderator Posts: 1,675 Joined: 14-March 06 Member No.: 52 |
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Jan 2 2007, 05:24 PM
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Thabo to start for Hinrich per the radio
If the Bulls want to be elite they need to continue to defend their home court |
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Jan 2 2007, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jan 2 2007, 05:17 PM)  Thabo to start for Hinrich per the radio If the Bulls want to be elite they need to continue to defend their home court that will be good seeing thabo on raja bell two tall guards. Should be a good game. |
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Jan 2 2007, 06:07 PM
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 I hate this starting line up... Deng and Nocioni are the only scoring options
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Jan 2 2007, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE (TeaLeafReaderII @ Jan 2 2007, 06:00 PM) I hate this starting line up... Deng and Nocioni are the only scoring optionsEven Nocioni has been kinda disappointing lately. |
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Jan 2 2007, 07:03 PM
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30 minutes to tip... I'm excited!
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Jan 2 2007, 07:07 PM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 690 Joined: 15-July 06 From: Elmhurst, IL Member No.: 214 |
I think Gordon is gonna get a lot of minutes this game to keep us flowing offensively. Im very excited to see this game.
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Jan 2 2007, 07:53 PM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 690 Joined: 15-July 06 From: Elmhurst, IL Member No.: 214 |
We need to watch the pick and roll. Thats killing us.
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Jan 2 2007, 07:58 PM
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Big ben has looked really solid so far...
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Jan 2 2007, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE (TeaLeafReaderII @ Jan 2 2007, 07:51 PM) Big ben has looked really solid so far... When he plays aggrsive offensively its a good change of pace for us. Were looking good so far. |
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Jan 2 2007, 08:14 PM
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Thabo doesn't look so hot tonight
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Jan 2 2007, 08:16 PM
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this new ball is killing the Suns...
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Jan 2 2007, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (TeaLeafReaderII @ Jan 2 2007, 08:09 PM) this new ball is killing the Suns... Deng and Gordon aren't helping them much either.
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Jan 2 2007, 08:20 PM
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Hinrichs 26th birthday today..
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Jan 2 2007, 08:21 PM
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Bulls lookin good.
To bad Tyrus Thomas is one of the least skilled offensive players ever, yikes. Gordon + Deng = good as usual |
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Jan 2 2007, 08:22 PM
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Gordon covering Nash... this could get scary
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Jan 2 2007, 08:28 PM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 690 Joined: 15-July 06 From: Elmhurst, IL Member No.: 214 |
Our offense definitely is dealing with the new ball better then phoenix
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Jan 2 2007, 08:33 PM
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Well it was a great quarter and a half of defense, with the Bulls only giving up 26 points in that span. All of the sudden the Phoenix O has reaasserted itself. The Bulls need to stop the bleeding quickly.
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Jan 2 2007, 08:39 PM
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LMAO Deng arguing a call and the ref doesn't wanna listen so Skiles clearly yells...
"You better listen to him he never says anything to anybody!" |
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Jan 2 2007, 08:39 PM
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Went to a shot of Skiles at the wrong time as he said, "F*cking b*tch" about the bad call on Noc.
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Jan 2 2007, 08:41 PM
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I'm terrified that they are going to T up Nocioni everytime he fouls... he needs to keep his emotions in check with these facist refs.
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Jan 2 2007, 08:44 PM
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55-43 at the half. HOlding PHo to 43 pts in a half is huge, hell many teams can't hold them to 43 in a quarter. The Bulls offensive flow has actually looked better than the Suns to be honest. Now we have to hope that the Bulls legs hold up for the second half. Excellent game so far, and kudos to Chris for the effort so far on Nash.
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Jan 2 2007, 09:02 PM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 690 Joined: 15-July 06 From: Elmhurst, IL Member No.: 214 |
Nice play by Deng
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Jan 2 2007, 09:17 PM
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Amare decided to show up... ugly start to the third...
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Jan 2 2007, 09:24 PM
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Even though the Bulls couldn't shoot, Phoenix only scored 20 in the 3rd. Closed the gap some, but the Bulls still kept them behind. Need to hit our shots in the 4th, big time.
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Jan 2 2007, 09:35 PM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 690 Joined: 15-July 06 From: Elmhurst, IL Member No.: 214 |
They need to get Gordon more involved on the offense.
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Jan 2 2007, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jan 2 2007, 09:28 PM) They need to get Gordon more involved on the offense. The offense as a whole needs to step it up. They stand there and hope someone does somethings. They need to run more without the ball. Better ball movement and more activity on offense. |
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Jan 2 2007, 09:39 PM
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Bulls are 2/7 in the 4th quarter if I'm counting right.
Just hit a few shots and this game is over. |
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Jan 2 2007, 09:42 PM
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Ref's must be from Arizona.
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Jan 2 2007, 09:42 PM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 690 Joined: 15-July 06 From: Elmhurst, IL Member No.: 214 |
Amare is simply amazing.
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Jan 2 2007, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jan 2 2007, 09:35 PM) Ref's must be from Arizona. Heh. |
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Jan 2 2007, 09:44 PM
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Noc got molested but no whistle
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Jan 2 2007, 09:45 PM
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Noc with a double double, deng close to one
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Jan 2 2007, 09:46 PM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 690 Joined: 15-July 06 From: Elmhurst, IL Member No.: 214 |
This is one of the first times I can recall Little Ben being in foul trouble.
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Jan 2 2007, 09:48 PM
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Ben Gordon with a helluva play!
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Jan 2 2007, 09:50 PM
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When Gordon is getting to the line he is a huge offensive lift. His driving has gotten much better as of late.
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Jan 2 2007, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jan 2 2007, 07:43 PM) When Gordon is getting to the line he is a huge offensive lift. His driving has gotten much better as of late. If he wants to be a dominant player in this league, that's exactly what he needs to do. Get into the lane and get the driving working. The outside shot will probably always be there, but if you want to be great, you have to drive the lane. It dismantles the other team's defense, creates open shots for teammantes, and draws fouls. |
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Jan 2 2007, 09:53 PM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 690 Joined: 15-July 06 From: Elmhurst, IL Member No.: 214 |
Either Nocioni flops all the time or he gets hammered on every play.
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Jan 2 2007, 09:53 PM
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Nocioni is playing like spiff in the 4th
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Jan 2 2007, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jan 2 2007, 09:46 PM) Either Nocioni flops all the time or he gets hammered on every play. He ends up on the ground and gets called for a foul. |
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Jan 2 2007, 09:57 PM
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Huge shot by Ben
Please, just no 3s Wow, we cant let them get anything tricky on offense. |
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Jan 2 2007, 09:58 PM
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Ben hits both free throws. This is huge. It's all on the defense now. And all this without Kirk.
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Jan 2 2007, 09:59 PM
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Isn't that a new career high for Gordon, 41?
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Jan 2 2007, 10:00 PM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 690 Joined: 15-July 06 From: Elmhurst, IL Member No.: 214 |
You gotta be kidding me
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Jan 2 2007, 10:00 PM
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Saw that coming.
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Jan 2 2007, 10:00 PM
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And Barbosa kicks the Bulls in the mother freaking nads
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Jan 2 2007, 10:02 PM
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That was the fastest damn 1.5 seconds. freaking bullshit ass referee's.
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Jan 2 2007, 10:02 PM
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If that is not one of the most disheartening losses of the year I dunno what is.
Eventually we are gonna have to freaking beat a good team. |
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Jan 2 2007, 10:03 PM
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Heart Breaking loss, but this team can go with anyone.
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Jan 2 2007, 10:05 PM
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With 1.5 secs, why run a play with your intended shooter getting the ball going away from the basket?
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Jan 2 2007, 10:05 PM
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Would be nice if Nocioni would wake the fish up lately, dude is cold as ice from 3, turns it over in stupid situations, and is just generally playing dumb.
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Jan 2 2007, 10:07 PM
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Terrible defensive scheme coming out of a time out! What's the gist....NO GODDAMN 3'S!!!....so everybody was packed in the paint.
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Jan 2 2007, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jan 2 2007, 09:55 PM) If that is not one of the most disheartening losses of the year I dunno what is. Eventually we are gonna have to freaking beat a good team. All the good teams are in the west. And we've shown so far that we can't hang with the west. 34 points allowed in the 4th quarter? Pathetic! We're now 2 months into the season and this team is still not defending like they're capable. I guess adding a 4-time DPOY doesn't mean as much as it used to. |
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Jan 2 2007, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (Wanne @ Jan 2 2007, 10:00 PM) Terrible defensive scheme coming out of a time out! What's the gist....NO GODDAMN 3'S!!!....so everybody was packed in the paint. No freaking spiff, you gotta switch that or something...no way you let Barbosa get that nice of a look. FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK Nash/Marion/Amare has to be the best trio in the league. Nash wasn't even great tonight but Marion/Amare were freaking monsters. |
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Jan 2 2007, 10:09 PM
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Nocioni cries foul too much and when you fall on the floor every other play against a team that runs like the Suns your destroying your teams chances. I still think Noc is good but he whines so much on the floor.
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Jan 2 2007, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jan 2 2007, 10:01 PM) No freaking spiff, you gotta switch that or something...no way you let Barbosa get that nice of a look. FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK Nash/Marion/Amare has to be the best trio in the league. Nash wasn't even great tonight but Marion/Amare were freaking monsters. The Suns, not the Mavs, are in the finals last year with a healthy Amare/Thomas. I think they beat the Heat as well. If they're healthy come playoff time, they're my pick in a stacked west. |
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Jan 2 2007, 10:11 PM
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Our first lost leading into the 4th this year?
QUOTE (Jordan4life_2006 @ Jan 2 2007, 10:03 PM) The Suns, not the Mavs, are in the finals last year with a healthy Amare/Thomas. I think they beat the Heat as well. If they're healthy come playoff time, they're my pick in a stacked west. AMEN. God I love teh Suns, but tonight they make me sick. Easily my favorite team in the West. They were tough as fish last year without one of the best interior players in the league, sick. |
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Jan 2 2007, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jan 2 2007, 10:04 PM) Our first lost leading into the 4th this year? AMEN. God I love teh Suns, but tonight they make me sick. Easily my favorite team in the West. They were tough as fish last year without one of the best interior players in the league, sick. I live in Phoenix...and I still hate 'em. Did anybody else seem to think that every time...EVERY time Phoenix came out of a timeout...D'Antoni had a set play that scored? God that game was a kick in the nuts. And please...get well quick Kirk so I don't have to see much of Duhon anymore. |
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Jan 2 2007, 10:24 PM
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Wow, that's a tough one to swallow. Although I did have the feeling someone on Phoenix was going to make a big shot. There was just way too much time left on the clock. I really wish Gordon would have held the ball a little longer the second before, but with the easy two coming from Nash's foul, I can see why he put the shot up.
I really hope, even in a loss, this game gives them a lot of confidence. They should be thinking of how tough they played one of the best teams in the league without Kirk Hinrich. Or the opposite could happen, and they slump a bit. Hope that doesn't happen. Great job by BG7: 41 points, 3 rebounds, 4 assists. He is quickly becoming the most important player on our team. I see big money in store for him. Also, I don't know if you guys have or not, but I have been voting for the All-Star game everyday. I urge you guys to vote for Deng, Wallace, Gordon, and Hinrich, just so when the coaches decide the reserves they look at our guys and see there is some support for them. Peace out. |
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Jan 2 2007, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (Chi-town23-33 @ Jan 2 2007, 10:17 PM) Also, I don't know if you guys have or not, but I have been voting for the All-Star game everyday. I urge you guys to vote for Deng, Wallace, Gordon, and Hinrich, just so when the coaches decide the reserves they look at our guys and see there is some support for them. Peace out. Sorry....I'd have a hard time voting for Wallace as an All-Star. |
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Jan 2 2007, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE (Wanne @ Jan 2 2007, 10:22 PM) Sorry....I'd have a hard time voting for Wallace as an All-Star. Why? His numbers are down, but I have no problem voting for him. He's more worthy than Shaq who will be getting a starting spot after sitting on the bench for half the season. Shaq is leading in votes for center over DWIGHT HOWARD! Maybe fans shouldn't vote at all. I mean, Jason Kidd was flirting with averaging a triple-double for awhile and will have to get appointed an All-Star spot by the coaches, Howard can't beat Shaq in voting. Sickening. The reason I've been voting for the Bulls players is because everyone else votes by their favorites. Under that logic I have no problem voting for Big Ben. |
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Jan 2 2007, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE (Chi-town23-33 @ Jan 2 2007, 10:30 PM) Why? His numbers are down, but I have no problem voting for him. He's more worthy than Shaq who will be getting a starting spot after sitting on the bench for half the season. Shaq is leading in votes for center over DWIGHT HOWARD! Maybe fans shouldn't vote at all. I mean, Jason Kidd was flirting with averaging a triple-double for awhile and will have to get appointed an All-Star spot by the coaches, Howard can't beat Shaq in voting. Sickening. The reason I've been voting for the Bulls players is because everyone else votes by their favorites. Under that logic I have no problem voting for Big Ben. It's not just about his numbers being down. He just hasn't had the impact he's getting paid to have. How the hell are the Bulls 18th in fg% defense after ranking 1st the previous two years? |
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Jan 2 2007, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE (Jordan4life_2006 @ Jan 2 2007, 10:47 PM) It's not just about his numbers being down. He just hasn't had the impact he's getting paid to have. How the hell are the Bulls 18th in fg% defense after ranking 1st the previous two years? While he may not be helping, I would say our guards are preventing penetration much more poorly than they have in the past 2 years. |
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Jan 2 2007, 11:33 PM
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Ugggghhhhhhhhh On any other night, I respect the Suns, tonight...well I hate em! Bulls played and proved they can run with them...I would rather lose by one point than get blown out...still that was a tough one. Oh yeah and is Ben Gordon filling the void of "we do not have a scorer" yet??
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Jan 2 2007, 11:41 PM
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I just wanted to add. This game sucked.
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Jan 3 2007, 08:18 AM
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Damn. That really hurts. They led the whole damned game, only to give it away at the end. I really can't believe we contained Steve Nash that well, even with Kirk out of the game. Once again, Chris Duhon deserves some big credit for his D, as does the whole Bulls team. They really held down Phoenix, they just couldn't execute themselves when it mattered.
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Jan 3 2007, 11:26 AM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,914 Joined: 13-March 06 Member No.: 23 |
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 3 2007, 06:11 AM) Damn. That really hurts. They led the whole damned game, only to give it away at the end. I really can't believe we contained Steve Nash that well, even with Kirk out of the game. Once again, Chris Duhon deserves some big credit for his D, as does the whole Bulls team. They really held down Phoenix, they just couldn't execute themselves when it mattered. Even if we lost, I think there's some good in it...at least I'll probably think there's some good in any game where the Bulls take Phoenix down to the wire and hold the Suns to 43 points in the first half and under 100 for the game. They play THAT sort of defense, get it fully in sync gradually but peaking around playoff time, and suddenly this team becomes a threat to anyone. |
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Jan 3 2007, 01:28 PM
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Skills Competitor Group: Forum Moderator Posts: 1,675 Joined: 14-March 06 Member No.: 52 |
QUOTE LEG UP: On Leandro Barbosa's game-winning 3, Steve Nash used his left leg in a tripping movement to force Ben Gordon inside and give Barbosa the space he needed to pull the shot. Had Gordon not tried to avoid Nash's leg and allowed himself to be tripped, I'm not sure if the officials would have called the foul on Nash, although it was clear that he was a moving screener. "Stripes" hate to make game-deciding calls on off-the-ball actions. ^^^from the dailing dime at espn.com |
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Jan 3 2007, 11:35 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
QUOTE (TeaLeafReaderII @ Jan 3 2007, 01:21 PM) ^^^from the dailing dime at espn.com Thats some damn bullshit. |
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Jan 4 2007, 08:17 AM
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All-Star Group: Administrator Posts: 2,568 Joined: 13-March 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 21 |
QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jan 3 2007, 11:28 PM) Thats some damn bullshit. Knowing ESPN they are probably praising it as a "smart veteran move" or something... |
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