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post Aug 16 2010, 09:25 AM
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Chandler, Durant, Iguodala, Billups, and Rondo started.

Everyone but westbrook and kevin love got 15-20 minutes so im not sure if its really a big deal that rose wasn't out there first. but if the coaches like chauncey that much, i think rose may be stuck playing the 2 most of the time.

westbrook is probably gonna be cut, and with Eric Gordon being a pure shooter, that leaves Curry, Billups, Rose, and Rondo to fight for PG and starting SG minutes

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post Aug 23 2010, 12:09 PM
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Flat out not fair. Watch the other 2 defenders other than M. Gasol try to react. He's in the lane before they move.

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post Aug 23 2010, 12:36 PM
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after the broadcast everyone was saying that rose and durant had good chemistry and i think that was pretty evident on the court. rose should be starting over billups i hope.

and this will be the lasting highlight of that game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH2WtjFCyvc
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post Aug 24 2010, 12:19 PM
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rondo last man cut
this is what rondo said after the game against spain

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"Just looking at the obvious -- I got a DNP last game. That pretty much speaks for itself." (espn)


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“Rajon came to us and said he was going to withdraw from the team, that he had some family matters to attend to and some things to take care of before the NBA season. He did an outstanding job during our training, we appreciate the effort and commitment he made to our program and he completely has our support,” said Colangelo. (bulls.com)


sounds like he quit to me because he knew he was the odd man out.
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post Aug 24 2010, 12:37 PM
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Makes sense, Rondo is an awful fit for international basketball. His weak jumper is a far bigger issue against the high percentage of zone defenses the US is likely to see than it is in the NBA (then again, I guess Westbrook isn't much better).
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post Aug 24 2010, 12:48 PM
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wow im really surprised westbrook got in over rondo. youd think his defense alone would be worth a spot
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post Aug 24 2010, 05:15 PM
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i saw an article somewhere that ainge said rondo wasnt really all that into being on the team to begin with.
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post Aug 25 2010, 02:35 PM
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Bulls beat Greece today and DR1 was named player of the game with 13 points, 2 rebounds, 2 steals in the game.

I managed to catch a bit of it while at the gym today. The USA's first unit was very effective early, and their 2nd unit was a lot weaker. Their 2nd unit guys made some poor decisions and had some turnovers, and they couldn't slow down the Greeks. That might have changed later in the game. Rudy Gay was particularly rough.

OTOH, the front line ripped the Greeks into pieces. Rose nailed a 3 to start the game, and I caught a couple other buckets by him. One was an isolation play, he drove into the lane, the defender had no shot so he overcommitted on the drive, and Rose just stopped and flipped it into the basket over his head. Last shot was a similar move just without the full drive, defender overcommitted so Derrick stepped back and hit a shot just inside the 3 line.

What I really liked seeing was his D. The Greeks are supposedly known as a pick and roll team, but every time someone tried to screen off Derrick, they either missed him or he slipped around it so quickly that he was back in front of the driver. The only time I saw him make an aggressive mistake was when he had 2 guys behind him for help .
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post Aug 29 2010, 09:31 AM
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Just watched the game versus slovenia. Derrick was basically unscreenable
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post Sep 12 2010, 03:23 PM
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Well, that was obviously Durant's team, but DR1 is now an international champion. Hope he learned some stuff.
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:51 AM
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3. Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook and The Cosby Show
They both played beautifully and with tremendous energy, but they also both starred in the U.S.'s worst moments by taking bad shots.

It's tough for them. They are stars. They rightly carry themselves as such. But with Durant shouldering the load on offense, these two guards were left to play defense, bring the ball up, and maybe score in transition once in a while. When they did those things, Team USA was excellent. But every now and again, they just had to make sure everyone remembered that they're scorers, dammit. And then there were jacked 3s with way better options, mid-range Russell pull-ups that were doomed before they were even released, and some one-on-five forays to the rim.

Sometimes I wonder if this is our fault. We reward scoring so damned much. With highlights. With bigger salaries. With cheering. It's just pummeled into players that scoring is the only way to be cool. Meanwhile, in reality they were cool the whole time except when they were determined to be scoring.

Let's talk about The Cosby Show for a minute. There's a scene in Season 3 when Vanessa has made some inroads with some of the cool girls at school. They are coming over so, like teenagers everywhere, she banishes her family so that they won't make her look uncool. Desperate to impress her guests, Vanessa starts showing off all of the most expensive things in the house, including some $11,000 painting.

The next day, people start calling her "rich girl" at school which leads to a fight and a lot of complications, none of which helps Vanessa achieve her long-term goals of being happier at school.

Meanwhile, she is perfectly cool. Cool enough! But then she didn't feel cool enough, and decided to prove she was even cooler than that. And that's what got her in trouble.

Same deal with Rose and Westbrook. Rose's role on Team USA is to be athletic and efficient, and he does those things so well. That horrible, covered 3 early in the clock ... that's an attempt to prove he's even cooler than that.

And Westbrook was drafted fourth overall and even that high it was a steal. His team needs him! But isn't it enough to play great defense, to score in transition, and to pound little guys like Tony Parker and Steve Blake by getting into the lane? To be a real man must he also force the action my dribbling into misses?


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5. The Bulls big man
Omer Asik, the Turk who is scheduled to join the Bulls, sure passes the eye test. Holy cow is he big, strong and mobile. He looks like a guy who could cause playoff problems. (Imagine if Joakim Noah went to the bench and the Bulls got bigger and longer.) However, you know how imported big men like Toni Kukoc and Dirk Nowitzki have forced us to rethink the role of the seven-footer? You know how all those international big men have polished guard skills, and can shoot from all over the court? Yeah, not this dude. He may be an overseas big man, but he's certainly no Nowitzki.

The Turks initiated their offense by getting Asik the ball with deep position, that's not, I don't think, because they wanted him to shoot it every time, or ever. He had a variety of attempts throughout the game, and he managed to make nearly all of them look far more difficult than they ought to have been. Perhaps it was nerves -- this was one of the biggest sporting events in his nation's history.

There was a point with about six minutes left in the third quarter when Turkey had closed within 15. The crowd got really loud. Asik grew determined to do his part, to bring his team even closer. He worked his way close to the hoop and threw up the ugliest, most off-balanced thing that missed my a couple of kilometers. But he got it back, almost undefended! He could have taken one step and slammed it. But he rushed something crazy and off-balanced and bricked it again.
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post Sep 13 2010, 10:20 PM
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Rose and Westbrook had different roles. Rose ran the offense and got everyone set....and played mostly with Durant. Westbrook was in the game mostly while Durant wasn't and was allowed to generate his own offense more.....and he was dynamite. I really enjoyed watching Westbrook do his thing out there.

Rose's shot looked good throughout and I'm really excited to see him take his game into MVP contention this year. It was hard to see Rose's true game as teams would just follow him in the open floor if there was ANY chance at a fast break.

Asik just looks like he needs to be coached....he has starting C potential in the NBA IMO. He carries a similar grade to that of Thabeet.
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