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Posted by: RME JICO Jul 5 2007, 05:50 PM

With the Free Agency upon us, it seems like a good time to have a catch-all thread for posts like this:

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The Chicago Bulls are also interested in acquiring the rights to Spanish league power forward Luis Scola from the San Antonio Spurs.

Bulls forward Andres Nocioni is not likely to be involved in a trade to the Spurs. The Bulls may offer guard Chris Duhon if he is not included in a larger deal.

This guys seems like a sleeper Pax would go after.

Posted by: dasox24 Jul 5 2007, 07:23 PM

QUOTE (RME JICO @ Jul 5 2007, 06:43 PM) *
With the Free Agency upon us, it seems like a good time to have a catch-all thread for posts like this:
This guys seems like a sleeper Pax would go after.

I wouldn't mind picking up Scola if all we had to give up was Duhon. He's a little old (27) for having never played in the Association, but he's definitely talented and could be a huge surprise. Probably would have been playing in the NBA much longer if he wasn't making millions under contract overseas.

Posted by: SoxFan1 Jul 5 2007, 09:10 PM

Pinned. smile.gif

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jul 6 2007, 01:01 AM

QUOTE (RME JICO @ Jul 5 2007, 04:43 PM) *
With the Free Agency upon us, it seems like a good time to have a catch-all thread for posts like this:
This guys seems like a sleeper Pax would go after.

Wow, this would be a fantastic move if all it took was Scalia. I'd assume we would use part of the MLE on Scalia as well.

Posted by: SoxFan1 Jul 6 2007, 01:59 AM

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 6 2007, 01:54 AM) *
Wow, this would be a fantastic move if all it took was Scalia. I'd assume we would use part of the MLE on Scalia as well.

Scola. Not that hard. laugh.gif

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Jul 6 2007, 05:22 AM

Looking at some of the old draft stuff on Scola, he seems like he would be a good fit. They describe him as a big man with good passing skills, who can run the floor, and with a jumper out to about 15 feet. It sounds like he might not be the strongest guy in the world, but you don't really have to be in the Bulls system.

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jul 7 2007, 12:05 PM

QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jul 6 2007, 04:15 AM) *
Looking at some of the old draft stuff on Scola, he seems like he would be a good fit. They describe him as a big man with good passing skills, who can run the floor, and with a jumper out to about 15 feet. It sounds like he might not be the strongest guy in the world, but you don't really have to be in the Bulls system.

He is the best big playing in the Euro Leagues right now and from all the international reports I read they seem to think he'd be able to come over and have some success. I wonder if he'd be much of a defensive player becuase most of the Euro bigs play a softer style of basketball, especially ones that have spent a lot of time in Europe (Darko is a rare exception but he too plays a lot more soft than you would like).

Posted by: Bullseye Jul 13 2007, 11:23 PM

Besides for the experience factor, I fail to see how we upgraded this season compared to last year. We still don't have that low post scorer, and we are paying pretty much backup SF/PF close to 8 million.

Posted by: SoxFan1 Jul 14 2007, 12:07 AM

QUOTE (Bullseye @ Jul 14 2007, 12:16 AM) *
Besides for the experience factor, I fail to see how we upgraded this season compared to last year.

Well, first off, the off-season isn't over yet. We still don't know the situations with PJ and Duhon. Those could be a big factor in the make-up of the team. Smith is better than PJ, so there is some improvement in the starting 5. Noah, Curry, and Gray give us some good depth.

Smith, Noah, Curry, Gray > Brown, Allen, Sweetney, Barrett. That's what it's boiling down to right now. Technically, we've gotten much younger but much more athletic.

Posted by: dasox24 Jul 14 2007, 12:16 AM

In other news, the Bulls wrapped up their Orlando Summer League experience with a loss to the Nets. TT did not play again and probably won't play in Utah, where the Bulls traveled to tonight after their loss. JamesOn capped off a good showing in Orlando with 19 pts on 8-13 shooting and 6 assists. Here's a little snippet of what Skiles had to say about him:

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"JamesOn is picking up what we're doing well," coach Scott Skiles said. "He has good quickness and does good things with the ball."


I'd like to say that I'm glad we're playing in 2 summer leagues this year. It does nothing but help these young guys get more experience playing against teams that while aren't loaded with NBA talent, do have more talent than most college teams these guys played against.

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jul 14 2007, 02:43 PM

QUOTE (Bullseye @ Jul 13 2007, 10:16 PM) *
Besides for the experience factor, I fail to see how we upgraded this season compared to last year. We still don't have that low post scorer, and we are paying pretty much backup SF/PF close to 8 million.

Well lets see.

Tyrus Thomas > Tyrus Thomas of last year
Sefolosha > Sefolosha of last year
Deng could become an All Star this year
Gordon has gotten better every year and should again
Hinrich should be his steady self (and lets no forget how much better his shooting was last season) and hopefully more fresh this year

Nocioni will hopefully be healthy (people forget how well he was playing early in the season, prior to him getting hurt). He will still get tons of minutes and be a huge weapon (especially considering how bad the Bulls bench was in terms of scoring once Noc went down).

Joakim Noah is a better athlete than any other big we had last year (at least one that is 7 foot...Tyrus is the best athlete on the Bulls though).

Noah/Gray > Malik Allen/Sweetney
Joe Smith > PJ Brown

So pretty much the way I see it we are upgrading everywhere (with certain guys getting better and more talent being brought in).

Posted by: Balta1701-B Jul 14 2007, 11:26 PM

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 14 2007, 01:36 PM) *
So pretty much the way I see it we are upgrading everywhere (with certain guys getting better and more talent being brought in).

You know what amazes me most about the job Paxson has done? He's had the opportunity to gamble everything over and over on quick fix after quick fix, and it seems each time, he's gone with the slow, steady program he set in motion when he grabbed Hinrich.

Move after move, at least to my eyes, seems to wind up looking like the right one down the line, and sometimes sooner. Drafting Hinrich with the 7 pick, swapping picks with Phoenix to get Deng, dumping Curry on the Knicks in exchange for cap room, and the picks that would become Noah and Tyrus, holding onto those picks rather than giving them up, going for Tyrus, grabbing BWall as a FA, and on and on and on.

It's just amazing to me how patient Pax has been in building this team, and how he's managed to at every step seem to find a solution that may very well work for the next 5+ years.

And man, a delete button would be so useful when the site freezes, and even doesn't show the post I sent in when I loaded it in a new window.

Posted by: dasox24 Jul 14 2007, 11:39 PM

QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 15 2007, 12:15 AM) *
You know what amazes me most about the job Paxson has done? He's had the opportunity to gamble everything over and over on quick fix after quick fix, and it seems each time, he's gone with the slow, steady program he set in motion when he grabbed Hinrich.

Move after move, at least to my eyes, seems to wind up looking like the right one down the line, and sometimes sooner. Drafting Hinrich with the 7 pick, swapping picks with Phoenix to get Deng, dumping Curry on the Knicks in exchange for cap room, and the picks that would become Noah and Tyrus, holding onto those picks rather than giving them up, going for Tyrus, grabbing BWall as a FA, and on and on and on.

It's just amazing to me how patient Pax has been in building this team, and how he's managed to at every step seem to find a solution that may very well work for the next 5+ years.

I agree completely. So many GM's try to find "quick fixes" and stop gaps, and most of the time, it just hurts the team in the long run (i.e. Ainge and the Celtics). I must say that I've been in favor of this trade or that trade over the last year or so, but now (as I posted a few days ago in another thread) I just want to wait it out and see what this team can do. I may be overly optimistic, but if we need to, we have the assets to make a trade at the trade deadline, so why not keep what we have and see how it plays out? We're so young and yet so good. Pax really has done a splendid job.

Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jul 16 2007, 12:47 PM

the bulls are now looking to resign Lu and BG to long term extensions

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After coming to terms with veteran free agent forward Joe Smith on a two-year contract, Chicago Bulls general manager John Paxson reiterated his commitment to signing Luol Deng and Ben Gordon to long-term extensions. Both players could command upward of five years and $50 million each in a new deal.

Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jul 16 2007, 01:06 PM

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Bulls to formally introduce Fs Nocioni, Smith on Wednesday


im not sure what time, im assuming on CSN

Posted by: eddog2 Jul 16 2007, 06:40 PM

QUOTE (RME JICO @ Jul 5 2007, 06:59 PM) *
With the Free Agency upon us, it seems like a good time to have a catch-all thread for posts like this:
This guys seems like a sleeper Pax would go after.


Scola reportedly is signing a 3 year $9.6 million dollar deal with the Rockets (plus $500K to help with his buyout). I'm predicting it now.

Rockets vs Bulls in the finals next year. Rockets win the title in 7 games.

Posted by: dasox24 Jul 16 2007, 06:53 PM

QUOTE (DutheDoduhon21 @ Jul 16 2007, 01:56 PM) *
the bulls are now looking to resign Lu and BG to long term extensions

Good. They better be looking to re-sign both of them. I think Gordon should get about $10 million per year, but no more, considering he's pretty one-dimensional. As for Deng, he should get like, what? $12 mil/yr for 4 years. Then he can become a free agent again when he's entering his prime, kind of like what LeBron, Bosh, and D-Wade did.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Jul 16 2007, 07:23 PM

QUOTE (dasox24 @ Jul 16 2007, 06:02 PM) *
Good. They better be looking to re-sign both of them. I think Gordon should get about $10 million per year, but no more, considering he's pretty one-dimensional. As for Deng, he should get like, what? $12 mil/yr for 4 years. Then he can become a free agent again when he's entering his prime, kind of like what LeBron, Bosh, and D-Wade did.

It would certainly be nice to add another year or two to Lu's deal beyond that if at all possible.

Posted by: dasox24 Jul 16 2007, 07:27 PM

QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 16 2007, 08:32 PM) *
It would certainly be nice to add another year or two to Lu's deal beyond that if at all possible.

Oh, I agree completely. I just don't think he (or maybe I should say, his agent) would do that b/c he could get so much more money in his 2nd deal if his first deal only lasts 4 years. I guarantee that a 27-year-old Deng would get ridiculous amounts of money as a free agent b/c the years around that age will be the best of his career.

Posted by: sport1016 Jul 16 2007, 10:27 PM

my hope for deng is a 6 year 84 million deal.....that's an average of 14 million a year

that will be a good deal for deng and us bc ur right...at 27 he could get a max deal...he will be better and younger than rashard lewis was this offseason

Gordon my hope is 4-5 years and 9-10 million a year.

But I actually think that the bulls will extend deng but not gordon. I think he is gonna want starting SG money. If Kirk got 11 he's gonna want at least that and probably a little more. But the bulls arent sold on him starting. I bet they offer him not much more than Noc's deal, maybe 5 years 40 million and there's a stalemate. Gordon plays out the contract, and then Paxson decides whether he's worth starters money or sign and trade him.

Posted by: SoxFan1 Jul 16 2007, 10:28 PM

We need to get Gordon signed long-term, and we need to give Deng a life-long contract.

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Jul 17 2007, 06:35 AM

QUOTE (DutheDoduhon21 @ Jul 16 2007, 01:56 PM) *
the bulls are now looking to resign Lu and BG to long term extensions


Let me be the first to say that there is no way Gordon or especially Deng signs for that little money. I would be willing to bet Deng comes close to a max contract.

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Jul 17 2007, 06:37 AM

QUOTE (eddog2 @ Jul 16 2007, 07:49 PM) *
Scola reportedly is signing a 3 year $9.6 million dollar deal with the Rockets (plus $500K to help with his buyout). I'm predicting it now.

Rockets vs Bulls in the finals next year. Rockets win the title in 7 games.


Not a chance. McGrady would have to stay healthy, and we know that isn't going to happen.

Posted by: taurus515th Jul 18 2007, 11:36 AM

I dont know why but for some strange reason i feel Paxson is not done making moves this offeseason. Other than a needing post-player, Paxson said he knows our backcourt is small and he would fix it. I really believe he will sign a player soon a veteran like Eddie Jones. The guy can give us defense and offense off the bench and isnt a young guy thats going to want lots of minutes nor a lot of money.

With Sefolosha developing, Duhon is only taking minutes from him. I really believe Duhon and Khryapa will be gone b4 the season starts.

-Hinrich/Curry
-Gordon/Thabo/Jones
-Deng/Nocioni/Griffin
-Thomas/Smith/Gray
-Wallace/Noah

Posted by: Balta1701-B Jul 18 2007, 11:50 AM

It certainly does seem like Duhon and Khryapa should be packaged off somewhere to grab someone who might make a bigger impact than either of them. Right now, they're literally guys 13 and 14 on this roster.

Posted by: Alpha Double Negative Jul 31 2007, 04:01 AM

Duhon is at WORST the 10th player on our roster. Unless you're putting him behind griffin, curry, gray, khryapa. which you shouldn't be right now.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Jul 31 2007, 10:22 AM

QUOTE (Alpha Double Negative @ Jul 31 2007, 03:10 AM) *
Duhon is at WORST the 10th player on our roster. Unless you're putting him behind griffin, curry, gray, khryapa. which you shouldn't be right now.

From what I've gathered this offseason, performance on the court is not the only issue we're dealing with here.

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Jul 31 2007, 11:00 AM

QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 31 2007, 11:31 AM) *
From what I've gathered this offseason, performance on the court is not the only issue we're dealing with here.


My question is who introduced Chris Duhon to Brian Anderson?

Posted by: Balta1701-B Jul 31 2007, 12:19 PM

QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jul 31 2007, 10:09 AM) *
My question is who introduced Chris Duhon to Brian Anderson?

Brandon McCarthy.

Posted by: Alpha Double Negative Jul 31 2007, 01:35 PM

QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 31 2007, 11:31 AM) *
From what I've gathered this offseason, performance on the court is not the only issue we're dealing with here.



Really? I haven't read anything other than the occasional trade rumor when it comes to him. But we hear that for every player. I don't think Paxson is comfortable with Sefolosha or Gordon at the PG spot, and I don't think bulls fans should be either. Would I be surprised or upset if he was traded? no. I don't expect it though, at least not until midseason since he's expiring too.

the off the court boozing doesn't seem to have been brought up as an issue for a very long time anywhere other than here.

Posted by: DPETE56 Sep 17 2007, 07:54 PM

who else thinks that noah is completly nuts

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Sep 18 2007, 07:39 AM

QUOTE (DPETE56 @ Sep 17 2007, 09:03 PM) *
who else thinks that noah is completly nuts


Dennis Rodman was completely nuts, and I wouldn't have kicked him out of Chicago.

Posted by: Rowand44 Sep 18 2007, 02:16 PM

QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Sep 18 2007, 08:48 AM) *
Dennis Rodman was completely nuts, and I wouldn't have kicked him out of Chicago.

Rodman was indeed nuts but he's one of the smarter players there was.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Sep 21 2007, 10:16 AM

Big Ben doing an ESPN Sportsnation Chat in about 15 minutes.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Sep 21 2007, 10:53 AM

Hopefully ESPN doesn't get too pissed @ me for doing this one.

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Brian (NY, NY): Ben, is it just me, or do you seem to play better when you've got the full 'fro going, as opposed to the corn rows?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:40 PM ET ) No, it's not just you. I think a little bit of everybody thinks that. Maybe I do, maybe I don't.

Henry (Buffalo): How important was it to you to make a shoe affordable for all kids out there?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:40 PM ET ) It was very important. I knew when I was growing up, I couldn't afford the shoes I really wanted. This is a chance for people to buy the shoes and to help out not just the families buying the shoes, but the players playing the game. It was very important.

Kyle (Kansas): Ben, will you be wearing your Big Ben shoe this season?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:41 PM ET ) Oh yeah. Most definitely. I wouldn't ask anyone else to wear them if I wasn't wearing them.

JJ: Sup Ben. Your take on Garnett and how will you stop him. Or can you stop him at all?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:41 PM ET ) I think it's a good move for the Celtics. They're reloading and trying to make some things happen. They look good on paper. That's why we play the game.

Fred (Atlanta): What are we going to see opening night - fro or rows?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:42 PM ET ) Oh we still have yet to decide. It's going to be a surprise for everybody. It might be something other than a fro or the rows.

Hakim from Anaheim, California: Hey Big Ben, what are your thoughts on Kobe Bryant's trade demands to chicago this summer, and if he did become a bull, would you welcome his arrival? Thanks! Hakim

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:43 PM ET ) Yeah, I would welcome him. I think he could do some things to help us get to the next level.

Deegan (Kentucky): Is there any talk about any other NBA players joining your shoe line?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:43 PM ET ) Not at the moment, but we're always open.

Scott (chicago): What was your first impression of the Bulls? Has is changed at all, and what are you most excited about the upcoming season?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:44 PM ET ) I think my first impression was that they were a young team that played hard. I'm excited that they had a chance to get a year under their belt. Now I think they're hungry to get at it.

Matt (Scranton, PA): Hey Big Ben...just wondering if there's gonna be any clothing to go along with the shoe line...Thanks....GO BULLS...

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:44 PM ET ) Yeah, we're going to have sweats, T-shirts, button up shirts. We're going to have clothing.

Robbie (Chicago): Have you seen Ty Thomas this summer yet? If so how much has he improved from last season?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:45 PM ET ) I haven't seen him in person. I've talked to him. I think he's one of those guys that every year he can get in this league he's going to get better and improve.

Alan (new York, New York): hugh Bull Fan, What do you think of your new teamate Noah? what does he need to do to play on this level like he did in college. Also Tyrus Thomas looked good in the summer leauge do you think he is ready for the next level?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:46 PM ET ) I think he's going to stay active. He can't get caught up in the hype of the NBA. He just has to come out and play. As long as he plays the same as he did the last couple of years in college, he'll be all right.

Frank (Chicago): Who will the Bulls be playing in the NBA finals this season?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:46 PM ET ) Probably it will be the Suns. If the Suns are fortunate enough to get there.

Robbie (Chicago): Hey Ben whats up? So i was wodnering, do you think Deng will take the next step and become an all-star this year?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:47 PM ET ) You know, being an all star is a popularity contest. We thought he should have been an all star last year, along with Ben Gordon. As long as they keep playing like all stars, we'll be happy with that.

Tom (MI): Ben, I was a little heartbroken when you left detroit because no center can replace your defense and defense wins championships. any chance of ever goin back to the pistons?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:48 PM ET ) I don't really have any plans too. Even if I did, my defense wouldn't be as good as when I left.

Doug Chicago: Who do you think will have the biggest breakout season this year amongst the Baby Bulls?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:48 PM ET ) I think last year Luol Deng had a breakout year. I think this year it will be Tyrus Thomas.

Andre (Chicago): If the Bulls don't make it to the Eastern Conference Finals will you feel like the season was a disappointment?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:49 PM ET ) Not when you do it with a young team. It takes some time to where you're trying to go. This year, we're planning on getting to the East Finals. But if we don't, it will be another year of experience. Any time you can get the experience, it will benefit you in the long run.

Doug Chicago: Whose going to have the bigger fro this year, you or Joakim Noah?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:50 PM ET ) Joakim is going to have the biggest fro, but I have the best known fro.

Sebastian (Honolulu): Big Ben, Bulls fan here. What's your take on why the West is viewed as a much stronger conference than the East?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:51 PM ET ) I think because of the run and gun style of basketball. It's a little more attractive than the grind it out style in the East. I don't think the better basketball is in the West, I think it's in the East. We play both ends of the floor.

Scott (Chicago): Who was the one Bull that you didn't realize was that good until you played with him? Go Bulls!!!

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:52 PM ET ) Luol Deng. I knew he was long and he could get to the basket. I didn't realize how well he played on the defensive end and how much he does to change shots on the defensive end of the floor.

Fuad (Detroit, MI):: Hey Ben, do you still keep in touch with Sheed',Chauncey,Rip,Tay and those guys?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:52 PM ET ) Yeah, I talk to all of those guys. I talk to at least two of those guys every week. I keep in touch with all of them.

KC (Portland, OR): Ben, how do you see the East matching up with the West this coming season? It seems like some teams have made some good moves, including the Bulls. Is this the year that the West domination starts to dwindle?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:53 PM ET ) I definitely think that the East is going to be stronger than the West. That's still why we play the game. I guess the conference is only as good as the teams playing in it.

Nasir, Philly: Have you talked to Joe Smith? What do you think of his addition to the Bulls?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:54 PM ET ) I haven't had a chance to talk with him much. I had the chance to play with him in Detroit. I know what he's capable of doing.

Brian (Pasadena, CA): Ben, right after the "headband" incident last year, the Bulls really turned it on. Did that game feel like a turning point for the team to you guys?

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:55 PM ET ) I think sometimes you're out there and you think you're focused and you're not really focused on the job. Sometimes a distraction is a good thing. WE had a chance to talk about somethings that we weren't able to talk about.

SportsNation Ben Wallace: (12:56 PM ET ) Thanks for the support. Continue to write, call and asking questions. Go out and pick up the new Big Ben Wallace shoes at Steve and Barry's stores on Oct. 29.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Sep 28 2007, 12:12 PM

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=45888 opened up a Circuit City the other day.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Oct 2 2007, 11:37 AM

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/newssun/news/583137,5_1_WA02_OPRAHGUY_S1.article

Posted by: Balta1701-B Oct 2 2007, 11:41 AM

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Skiles was so impressed he said Gordon's work "ranks with the greatest summers I've seen." Paxson said he saw Gordon every time he looked out from his office overlooking the court. Ditto for Deng when he wasn't playing for Great Britain.

"I don't put anything past those two," Paxson said. "Luol's just 22 years old. His best basketball is ahead of him. I can see him getting better and his average going up, his game expanding. ... I think we have two guys who have the ability to score when we need scoring."

Gordon and Deng weren't the only ones staying busy over the summer. Forward Andres Nocioni dropped about 10 pounds to ease the plantar fasciitis in his right foot that caused him to miss 28 of 29 games down the stretch and limited him in the playoffs.

He said he's pain-free. His health is an important issue for a team that relies on his energy and ability to hit the 3-pointer.
http://www.post-trib.com/sports/583397,bulls.article

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Oct 3 2007, 07:42 AM

There are two things that can derail this team

Ego and Injury.

If we avoid these problems, this is a damned good team, and I can't wait for the season to begin.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Oct 3 2007, 10:02 AM

QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Oct 3 2007, 06:51 AM) *
There are two things that can derail this team

Ego and Injury.

If we avoid these problems, this is a damned good team, and I can't wait for the season to begin.

And the cool thing is...as long as it doesn't involve probably just Hinrich for the long-term, this team is so deep it can deal pretty well with injuries too

Posted by: Balta1701-B Oct 3 2007, 11:56 AM

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Adrian Griffin skipped practice with a sore back that also plagued him last season.
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-071002bulls,1,6183666.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

Posted by: Schalke Oct 3 2007, 02:11 PM

meh, I don't see Grif getting any minutes anyway. The only thing I remember him doing last year was that game in Milwaukee when Redd was lighting us up and Griff came in to slow him down.

Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Oct 3 2007, 08:04 PM

will the bulls be "painting the town red" this year like last year?

Posted by: Balta1701-B Oct 5 2007, 10:49 AM

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The United Center will name the arena’s club level after Lexus, Toyota’s luxury vehicle brand, under a new sponsorship agreement with the Japanese automaker.

The “Lexus Club Level” will feature seats with waiter and waitress service and other amenities, according to a statement from the Chicago Bulls. Terms of the deal weren’t disclosed.

A plus to Lexus-driving Bulls fans: There will be designated parking spots in the club-level parking lots K and C specifically for fans driving Lexus vehicles, according to the statement.

“A major trend in sports marketing is rebranding areas within an arena,” said Steve Schanwald, executive vice-president of business operations for the Bulls. “We believe our new partnership will provide Lexus with a wonderful opportunity to deliver a direct, positive message to everyone who visits the United Center.”
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=26619&seenIt=1

Posted by: Balta1701-B Oct 13 2007, 01:05 PM

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/601695,CST-SPT-bull13.article Lu led the way with 18 points on 6/7 shooting. TT added 13 points, 7 rebounds, in 26 minutes. 3 Turnovers, 2 fouls, 4/7 from the field and 5/7 from the line for TT. I could probably put up with those being his numbers for most of the season. Aaron Gray put up a double double playing mainly in the 4th. Gordon, Thabo, Smith, and Griffin all still DNP. Smith's health appears to be becoming something of a concern for Skiles, who wants him in the lineup somehwat to adapt more to his new team.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Oct 17 2007, 12:34 PM

Anyone else think this ankle injury is really setting up Gordon for another slow start, just like he's seemed to have the last 2 years (both times winding up as the 6th man)?

Good to see Smith get into a game.

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Oct 23 2007, 07:14 PM

I'd just like to say that Khryapa is crap and I don't want to see him step on the court for 1 second this season. Please get rid of him. Keep Gardner instead.

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Oct 24 2007, 07:33 AM

Viktor has a guarenteed contract, so that isn't going to happen.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Oct 24 2007, 03:46 PM

Skiles announced Gardner will be the 15th man, though his contract won't be guarunteed.

and Deng and Kirk are the captains.

Posted by: Brian Oct 31 2007, 08:20 PM

Training camp is OVA!

Posted by: Balta1701-B Nov 21 2007, 01:22 PM

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-28-311/David-Thorpe-on-Joakim-Noah.html

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The Bulls have helped Joakim Noah a little with his perimeter shot, raising the release point a bit from where it used to be. Now he has to work on shooting with just one hand. His left thumb almost always turns toward the rim on his release, a common mistake that can be corrected with work. ...

In college, most players on their way to the NBA are the focal point of their teams. Plays are run for them, strengths are emphasized in the game plan and weaknesses are hoped to be hidden. Consider one of my favorite rookies, Chicago's Joakim Noah. He could not consistently make the 16-foot shot at Florida, but his coach still wanted the ball in his hands at that range because he could drive by many of his opponents, or use his deft passing touch to feed the ball inside or reverse it for a 3. It was a main cog for the terrific Florida offense.

But Scott Skiles is trying to get no less than four veterans enough "touches" to keep them happy and in rhythm. Noah's strength as a playmaker will have to wait.

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Nov 24 2007, 12:18 PM

Tyrus = Dumb basketball player

Posted by: eddog2 Nov 26 2007, 06:34 PM

QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Nov 24 2007, 12:27 PM) *
Tyrus = Dumb basketball player



Correction! Tyrus = Dumb, lazy basketball player

Posted by: Balta1701-B Dec 18 2007, 12:57 PM

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-28-409/Effective-Rookies.html points out again that Joakim Noah continues to have the highest PER of any rookie in the NBA.

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Dec 30 2007, 11:48 AM

After 1 and a half games I've come to the conclusion Jim Boylan = Scott Skiles with a little more emphasis on offense and less on defense.

Posted by: SoxFan1 Dec 30 2007, 09:09 PM

QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Dec 30 2007, 12:57 PM) *
After 1 and a half games I've come to the conclusion Jim Boylan = Scott Skiles with a little more emphasis on offense and less on defense.

Let me guess why...because Tyrus doesn't get any playing time?

Damn him for winning games! Damn you Boylan!

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Dec 31 2007, 12:47 PM

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 30 2007, 09:18 PM) *
Let me guess why...because Tyrus doesn't get any playing time?

Damn him for winning games! Damn you Boylan!


Why are you assuming I'm angry at Boylan? It was actually a compliment..

Posted by: SoxFan1 Dec 31 2007, 04:28 PM

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Why are you assuming I'm angry at Boylan? It was actually a compliment..

Well, considering you have ripped Skiles for months now and that you have a sig of him in a straight-jacket, I figured it was a bad thing. huh.gif

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Dec 31 2007, 05:32 PM

I hated Skiles, Boylan is doing what he can with what he has been given. I think he is doing a fine job with the exception of playing Nocioni too much and some of the younger guys not enough (Noah and Tyrus).

Posted by: SoxFan1 Dec 31 2007, 06:53 PM

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I hated Skiles, Boylan is doing what he can with what he has been given. I think he is doing a fine job with the exception of playing Nocioni too much and some of the younger guys not enough (Noah and Tyrus).

Boylan has the same team Skiles did...what makes them so different?

Posted by: Chisoxfn Dec 31 2007, 07:14 PM

QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Dec 31 2007, 03:41 PM) *
I hated Skiles, Boylan is doing what he can with what he has been given. I think he is doing a fine job with the exception of playing Nocioni too much and some of the younger guys not enough (Noah and Tyrus).

Boyland is going to continue to play the key guys (the guys that have been the reason for the Bulls upswing the past two seasons, not counting this one) until they can get into a groove (or at least give them every opportunity to find themselves) and after that you will than see the attention turned to getting the bench straightened out.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Jan 8 2008, 11:56 AM

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-080107chicagobullsjimboylan,1,6079088.story?coll=cs-home-headlines have traded JamesOn Curry to the Iowa Energy for Demetris Nichols. Or something like that.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Jun 17 2008, 08:07 PM

They should have waited on Thibidou....

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jun 23 2008, 11:20 AM

Thib is a free agent and it sounds like the Bulls are going to make a serious run at hiring him to be an assistant. It would obviously cost some serious coin to land him and even than I don't know if it would be wise to leave Boston where he should be very confident that the team he's coaching will make it back to at least the playoffs next season (which should put him yet again in a position to get a head coaching job). Than again, winning the finals isn't necessarily good for getting a coaching job immediately (since it means teams end up having to wait).

Posted by: Balta1701-B Jun 23 2008, 03:21 PM

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Thib is a free agent and it sounds like the Bulls are going to make a serious run at hiring him to be an assistant. It would obviously cost some serious coin to land him and even than I don't know if it would be wise to leave Boston where he should be very confident that the team he's coaching will make it back to at least the playoffs next season (which should put him yet again in a position to get a head coaching job). Than again, winning the finals isn't necessarily good for getting a coaching job immediately (since it means teams end up having to wait).

One thing a guy like Thibodeau ought to be thinking about right now...if he ever wants to land a big money, head coaching spot, he's not going to do it by grabbing another team like the Celtics and helping them get over the top, because then he'll still be coaching to mid June and no one will really want to wait that long on a coach. At least at some level, it makes sense for him to jump to a younger team for a year or two if that's his long term goal, because he can still put together a defense that shows it has some skill but at the same time probably won't lock himself in on too long of a playoff run next year.

Posted by: dasox24 Jun 23 2008, 08:30 PM

If we could add Thibodeau, that would be awesome. It would be one hell of a start to the coaching staff.

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jun 23 2008, 10:47 PM

QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jun 23 2008, 02:30 PM) *
One thing a guy like Thibodeau ought to be thinking about right now...if he ever wants to land a big money, head coaching spot, he's not going to do it by grabbing another team like the Celtics and helping them get over the top, because then he'll still be coaching to mid June and no one will really want to wait that long on a coach. At least at some level, it makes sense for him to jump to a younger team for a year or two if that's his long term goal, because he can still put together a defense that shows it has some skill but at the same time probably won't lock himself in on too long of a playoff run next year.

The Bulls are a good fit because they are a strong defensive team and that means he won't be making a risky move (as in they should remain strong defensively which won't hurt his resume). However, going to a young team is risky because he could jump ship and that team struggles and all of a sudden his name falls off the radar (staying in Boston makes the most sense, but if he wanted to leave, Chicago is a good fit given there defensive strengths and all around good personell (regardless of last year, this is a quality team that could make it back to the playoffs with no changes, let alone the #1 overall pick).

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Jun 27 2008, 10:50 PM

If the Bulls sign Thibideau, that would ease my hate for what we lost in the D'Antoni situation. This guy is certified, he's got a championship ring, and the Celtics had the best defense in the league this year.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Jun 29 2008, 06:11 AM

Anyone know when/if the Bulls will be in the rookie league? I've only been able to find details on the vegas league and the Bulls are going to be there.

The vegas leage is lot more organized then the one in orlando...

Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jun 29 2008, 01:22 PM

for the sumer league i want to see the bulls bring in chris lofton, i just realized he went undrafted. eventhough we have alot of gaurds and he probably wont make the team, it would be nice to give him a shot and maybe send him to the d-league. who do you guys want to see the bulls bring in?

Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jun 30 2008, 04:27 PM

i was bored and looking at all the players websites and tyrus thomas is new, and pretty sweet. it says his weight is 230 lbs...wasnt he like 215 when he came in? also on thabo's it says he is now a father

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I would like to announce that I'm a happy Daddy of a young and wealthy girl named "Lesedi", she was born on May 15th, 2008.
derrick rose's is also updated and it has bulls all over the place.

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jun 30 2008, 07:57 PM

I can't remember where, but I did see somethign which confirms CBF's initial post which indicated he had grown an inch.

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jun 30 2008, 08:08 PM

With Maggette and Brand becoming UFA's, I wouldn't expect any team significantly under the cap to make a serious offer at Deng or Gordon. This likely will impact there market values and as such, I wouldn't be shocked to see the Bulls sign both of these guys to the exact extension they offered last year (in fact, they could probably play hard-ball and get them to sign lesser deals). I'm sure you could get Deng to take a lesser deal, less sure about Gordon as he thinks higher of himself than he really is (not necessarily a bad thing) and may not be willing to take the hit to his ego.

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jun 30 2008, 08:09 PM

Baron Davis will also be joining the free agent ranks as he has opted out.

Note: Brand was quoted as saying he hopes to rejoin the Clippers (and I think he'll give them strong consideration).

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Jun 30 2008, 08:30 PM

One of Maggete and Brand will be gone next year, I'm thinking its going to be Maggete. For some reason I keep envisioning him on the Miami Heat, I don't know how that'll workout, ha.

Posted by: Balta1701-B Jul 1 2008, 10:27 AM

QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Jun 30 2008, 07:30 PM) *
One of Maggete and Brand will be gone next year, I'm thinking its going to be Maggete. For some reason I keep envisioning him on the Miami Heat, I don't know how that'll workout, ha.

I've gotten the impression that Maggete has hated his role on the Clippers for the last few years. He's more opposed to coming off the bench than Ben Gordon it seems, he wanted to be a starter and that wasn't the role they found him most useful for.

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jul 1 2008, 10:42 AM

QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 1 2008, 09:27 AM) *
I've gotten the impression that Maggete has hated his role on the Clippers for the last few years. He's more opposed to coming off the bench than Ben Gordon it seems, he wanted to be a starter and that wasn't the role they found him most useful for.

I remember a lot of complaining coming from Corey when it came to his consistent use off the bench and to an extent it was valid because Maggette is a damn good player and a much more complete player than Gordon. He isn't a defensive liability and he's not such a streaky player (since he's so good at getting to the free throw line). Lot of talk about Orlando and the MLE for Maggette, which would be a slight pay-cut (made 7M this season) but barring a signing trade or him coming back to the Clippers I can't see anyway he gets more than the MLE (so at that point, its just a matter of picking which team he'd like to play on).

James Posey will likely be in a similar boat, but the Celtics want him back and you can expect teams like the Spurs to give him a call as well.

Posted by: dasox24 Jul 5 2008, 05:40 PM

I think this is a solid reminder that Rose is just a 19-year-old rookie who's gonna have his ups and downs this year. Let's make the best of it and not freak out when he has a bad string of games. It's gonna happen.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-080705-derrick-rose-chicago-bulls-rookie,1,6740926.story

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Life may not be rosy for Bulls right away
Rose likely to struggle early, like most NBA rookies


By K.C. Johnson | Tribune reporter
4:58 PM CDT, July 5, 2008


The blur that can be Derrick Rose on the fast break is intoxicating, the images taking root in fans' minds only in the form of no-look passes, greatness and green lights.

The Bulls, on the other hand, are preaching caution, yellow lights rather than red, and warning of speed bumps, maybe even—gasp!—some turnovers ahead.

There's a reason why, save for Elton Brand, none of the Bulls' high-profile NBA draft lottery picks since Michael Jordan left town made major impacts their rookie seasons. Making the jump from college to the NBA, no matter how talented the player, is difficult.

"Early in my rookie season, I had a triple-double against Jason Kidd and the next game, I faced Sam Cassell," said Jay Williams, the second overall pick in 2002. "Shortly after that, I faced Baron Davis and Steve Nash. In between that were tough practices where Jamal [Crawford] and I were going at each other, talking trash, fighting for playing time.

"The league has so much better scouting. When I was playing against Baron, he was telling me while he was guarding me that he was going to force me right because the scouting report said I wasn't as effective going that direction.

"It's a grind making the jump. Young guys don't understand that."

Rare is the rookie like LeBron James—a unique physical specimen—who dominates in his first season.

Heck, even Kobe Bryant averaged 7.6 points on 41.7 percent shooting as a rookie in 1996-97.

Yes, Chris Paul averaged 16.1 points and 7.8 assists while starting 78 games and winning Rookie of the Year honors for Oklahoma City/New Orleans in 2006. But the other point guard to whom people are comparing Rose, Utah's Deron Williams, started 47 games for Utah the same season and posted relatively modest averages of 10.8 points and 4.5 assists.

That's not to say Rose can't be a factor and perhaps even a major one. It is to say doing so would be more the exception than the rule.

"If Derrick takes the ball from Day One and runs with it and leads us, that's great," general manager John Paxson said. "But if it takes time, that's fine too. We understand that."

Rose rarely makes politically incorrect media statements, so the No. 1 pick is saying all the right things about how much he has to learn, listening to coaches and teammates and filling whatever role management thinks best.

Those atwitter about the Bulls holding Rose back also miss this point: As Paxson said, if Rose is the rare rookie to transcend the typical growing pains and steep learning curve inherent in this jump, he will play. A lot.

"Everybody grows at their own rate," Paxson said. "When we drafted Ben [Gordon] and Luol [Deng], they had a little more worldly experience and maturity level and blossomed that first year.

"I got nailed after we drafted Tyrus [Thomas], but I said at that time it's like drafting a high school player and he's going to take some time. And he has taken some time. But we still believe he has a chance to be a real player.

"We're going to approach this as we need to put whatever player we select in the right position to be successful."

The Bulls have watched every second of every game Rose played during his one season at Memphis—likely more than once—as well as games from his high school career at Simeon. Beyond the jaw-dropping speed with the ball and NBA-level athleticism, this stood out: Rose's ability to blossom as he gets more acclimated and comfortable.

Like most point guards, Rose defers to teammates first. So his arc typically follows him becoming more aggressive as the season progresses and he gets more comfortable with his role and teammates.

"Once he got acclimated to that offense and system under coach [John] Calipari and integrated himself to that program, he really blossomed," Paxson said. "We think Derrick possesses a unique skill set that can benefit us for the next 10-15 years."

If all goes to form, those years will be filled with plenty of no-look passes and greatness. Even Rose knows the first year will be an adjustment.

"I still have a lot to learn," he said. "But I'm willing to work hard and I think they realize I can be effective."

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Jul 5 2008, 08:16 PM

KC is really starting to annoy me with his last few articles. My god, he acts like we shouldn't expect more than 5 ppg 4 assists per game. He's the #1 pick in the draft, I don't know about you but I expect some pretty damn good things to come for Derrick, and why can't it happen as soon as this season? Someone tell me why? Stop with the crap KC, please..

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jul 9 2008, 01:47 PM

Hoopsworld compliments Noah's summer league play:

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While much of the attention at the Orlando Summer League has been focused on the Michael Beasley / Derrick Rose story, my Pro Training Center colleague David Thorpe and I found ourselves marveling at how many balls Joakim Noah gets his hands on during every possession. On both offense and defense, Noah gets tips, deflections, keeps balls alive and is involved in almost every rebound or loose ball opportunity at both ends.


Nice to see some good things said given how schooled he got against Beasley. We all know about his offensive limitations but as long as you understand those limitations and have an up-tempo system which plays to his skill-set you are talking about a pretty solid player.

The Tribune also reported that the Bulls and Noah are working on him improve his endurance as he often would tire out very early in games.

Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jul 10 2008, 04:18 PM

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The league also handed Chicago Bulls guard JamesOn Curry a one game suspension. Curry’s suspension comes in the wake of him pleading guilty to misdemeanor counts of resisting arrest and public urination stemming from an incident in January.

a wopping 1 game suspension for JamesOff. he probably wont play anyway. the potential is there but there is no way he makes the team.

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Jul 11 2008, 12:35 PM

So Curry's first NBA game, he won't be playing laugh.gif

Posted by: Balta1701-B Jul 17 2008, 09:53 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=VegasChatter-080717&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab5pos2

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July 25, when Artest is scheduled to join Chicago Bulls forward Joakim Noah and New York Knicks guard Nate Robinson on the ESPN campus in Bristol, Conn., to face the winners of a Wii sweepstakes event.

Posted by: dasox24 Jul 17 2008, 10:13 PM

QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 17 2008, 10:53 PM) *
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=VegasChatter-080717&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab5pos2

Yeah, I saw that earlier today... What is that about?

Posted by: dasox24 Jul 31 2008, 02:50 PM

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/fullcourtpress/2008/07/bulls-waive-cur.html

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Bulls waive Curry

K.C. Johnson, 3:30 p.m.

As expected, the Bulls waived 2007 second-round pick JamesOn Curry on Thursday. The guard never played in a regular-season game.

While on a NBA Development League assignment with the Iowa Energy, Curry was arrested and charged with public urination and resisting arrest. He later underwent thumb surgery.

By releasing Curry, the Bulls are only obligated to pay $100,000 of his partially guaranteed salary for next season. Counting Ben Gordon's tender offer, the Bulls currently have 13 players under contract.

Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Jul 31 2008, 09:27 PM

I love how they always mention his "Public Urination" thingy knowing that every single guy in the world has pissed outside before but not many get caught. I can honestly say I didn't know that you could be charged for such a thing until his incident.

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