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Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Sep 8 2010, 10:03 PM
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Carmelo Anthony(notes) still hopes to persuade the Denver Nuggets to trade him, preferably to either the Chicago Bulls or New York Knicks, an NBA source with knowledge of Anthony’s wishes told Yahoo! Sports.
The Knicks have limited assets to offer the Nuggets, which makes the Bulls a more appealing potential trade partner. The Bulls can offer a replacement small forward in Luol Deng(notes), as well as two young forwards in James Johnson(notes) and Taj Gibson(notes). New York officials would like to make a run at signing Anthony next summer if he were to opt to become a free agent. The Knicks will have salary-cap room with Eddy Curry’s(notes) contract expiring after the season.
The Knicks have limited assets to offer the Nuggets, which makes the Bulls a more appealing potential trade partner. The Bulls can offer a replacement small forward in Luol Deng(notes), as well as two young forwards in James Johnson(notes) and Taj Gibson(notes). New York officials would like to make a run at signing Anthony next summer if he were to opt to become a free agent. The Knicks will have salary-cap room with Eddy Curry’s(notes) contract expiring after the season.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-anthonywish090810
i love taj but i would do that trade in a heartbeat. throw in a 1st rounder with it
Posted by: rockren Sep 8 2010, 10:52 PM
QUOTE (DutheDoduhon21 @ Sep 8 2010, 11:03 PM) 
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-anthonywish090810
i love taj but i would do that trade in a heartbeat. throw in a 1st rounder with it
i love taj but i would do that trade in a heartbeat. throw in a 1st rounder with it
Lou, Taj, JJ and picks for Melo?
Ummmmm yes? Probably too good to be true.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Sep 9 2010, 07:39 AM
QUOTE (rockren @ Sep 9 2010, 12:52 AM)
Lou, Taj, JJ and picks for Melo?
Ummmmm yes? Probably too good to be true.
Ummmmm yes? Probably too good to be true.
Definitely too good to be true.
Posted by: rockren Sep 9 2010, 12:00 PM
QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Sep 9 2010, 08:39 AM)
Definitely too good to be true.
Agreed. The conversation with the Nuggets will start and end with Noah.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Sep 9 2010, 01:25 PM
QUOTE (rockren @ Sep 9 2010, 02:00 PM)
Agreed. The conversation with the Nuggets will start and end with Noah.
I pointed this out at Soxtalk but it's worth noting here as well.
In any deal for Anthony, to match the salaries, the Bulls would either need to include Deng or Boozer; no one else on their team is paid enough, and it can't be done currently with multiple pieces (assuming the Bulls don't include Rose).
So, let's hypothesize...Deng and Noah for Anthony. It works, and it clears a couple million from the Nuggets salary this season, and thus saves them a bit of money under the tax for this year.
However...Joakim is a restricted FA next summer and would play under a qualifying offer if no contract is agreed on beforehand. Deng's salary increases by about $1 million a year through 2013-2014. When you factor in an extension to Noah though...if Noah gets about $10 million per year (a number which you could legitimately believe would be a good deal for the team), suddenly, starting in 2011-2012, the Nuggets turn out to have taken on $23 million+ in salary. They clear $2 million this year, but until the end of that deal (under the current structure) they'd be committing to take on $7 million+ a year in additional salary and $7 million+ in additional luxury tax payments. Basically, they're paying another max deal in order to make that trade. And for every $1 million Noah gets above $10 mil per year, each of those numbers goes up by $1 million. And if the Luxury tax level drops like it did this year, the hit is even bigger.
I can't speak to Denver's financial situations, but that's an awful lot of money they'd be shelling out to get rid of Anthony.
Posted by: rockren Sep 9 2010, 01:31 PM
QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Sep 9 2010, 02:25 PM)
I pointed this out at Soxtalk but it's worth noting here as well.
In any deal for Anthony, to match the salaries, the Bulls would either need to include Deng or Boozer; no one else on their team is paid enough, and it can't be done currently with multiple pieces (assuming the Bulls don't include Rose).
In any deal for Anthony, to match the salaries, the Bulls would either need to include Deng or Boozer; no one else on their team is paid enough, and it can't be done currently with multiple pieces (assuming the Bulls don't include Rose).
Agreed. I've talked about this with some of my Denver friends and I've made it clear Deng HAS to be in a Melo deal if a deal gets done at all. So a tip to what Denver is interested in is if they talk Deng in a deal at all...that means they'll take on Deng if they HAVE to.
We've touched on this in comparison to Rudy Gay's 6/80 compared to Lou's 4/51...Lou's deal has the potential to be a very good one. The problem is we all know (including Denver) he can't stay healthy and is a below average shooter outside of 17 feet.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Sep 9 2010, 03:14 PM
QUOTE (rockren @ Sep 9 2010, 03:31 PM)
We've touched on this in comparison to Rudy Gay's 6/80 compared to Lou's 4/51...Lou's deal has the potential to be a very good one. The problem is we all know (including Denver) he can't stay healthy and is a below average shooter outside of 17 feet.
Overall, I think Luol Deng's deal may turn out to be an "average" deal if he can ever stay healthy. He's paid like a top 10 SF in the league, and when you consider defense, if he stays on the floor he probably is a top 10 SF in the league. Once it was clear that the 3 some was having their fun in Florida, filling the SF spot with Deng at his current contract level isn't a terrible place to be as long as we don't lose Rose because of the Luxury tax.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Sep 20 2010, 08:12 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5594741
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The Nuggets still aren't aggressively shopping Anthony and haven't withdrawn their longstanding offer of a contract extension, but numerous sources told ESPN.com that Denver officials have in recent days let other teams know for the first time that they will listen to pitches after previously resisting such discussions.
"I'm not sure how soon, but I do think they're going to trade him [between now and February]," said one rival GM.
Said another source briefed on Denver's plans: "There's no doubt they are working on it. Eventually they're going to pull the trigger. "
For now, I think the Bulls ought to offer up Taj, Johnson, Deng, and a draft pick and let Denver see if they can beat that deal. If it's on the table, then Denver will still probably give you a call even if they get a better offer from someone else to see if the Bulls will up their deal, and that's when you can really try to work something out.
"I'm not sure how soon, but I do think they're going to trade him [between now and February]," said one rival GM.
Said another source briefed on Denver's plans: "There's no doubt they are working on it. Eventually they're going to pull the trigger. "
Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Sep 22 2010, 09:09 PM
Why would Denver want Noah when they already have Nene at center? Doesn't seem like a sensible fit to me.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Dec 12 2010, 06:45 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5912307...supposedly Anthony is now saying that the only team he'll sign with if he's traded is the Knickerbockers.
Posted by: rockren Dec 12 2010, 10:00 PM
QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Dec 12 2010, 06:45 PM)
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5912307...supposedly Anthony is now saying that the only team he'll sign with if he's traded is the Knickerbockers.
*Yawn*
They can have him.
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