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Posted by: Balta1701-B Apr 30 2010, 08:26 AM
The playoffs are still going on and FA/draft are just starting to shape up. Let's consider this a thread for anything you want to discuss that isn't huge Bulls news.
Posted by: Sanitarium Apr 30 2010, 09:27 AM
Any chance dirk opts out?
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Apr 30 2010, 11:07 AM
i know dirk can play, but i just dont like the guy at all.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Apr 30 2010, 11:21 AM
IMO, any player that has an opt-out and doesn't use it this year to at least work an extension is crazy...because otherwise, they're likely to wind up with a much smaller deal under next year's CBA.
Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Apr 30 2010, 11:24 AM
Dirk is also going to be 32 years old..
Posted by: Sanitarium May 1 2010, 08:57 AM
not reflected in his statistics though. i think if he signed with someone else he would still play at a high level. he wants a championship. the only season he played less than 75 games was his rookie year.
Posted by: Balta1701-B May 1 2010, 02:30 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5152854
About an hour later, Bosh posted a second message that read: "Ok... Let me rephrase the question. Should I stay or should I go?"
Posted by: Sanitarium May 1 2010, 07:53 PM
Sounds like he plans on leaving. I think we just have to beat out Miami and then we're good
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 May 2 2010, 04:09 PM
saw a picture of obama laughing with dwayne wade...wonder what they were talking about.
Posted by: Balta1701-B May 4 2010, 07:37 AM
The Cavs looked beatable against the Bulls and needed the refs help to get out of that series in 5. The Cavs now look beatable against the Celtics, and the Celtics are good enough that the Refs can't hand the Cavs the series.
Posted by: Balta1701-B May 6 2010, 07:46 AM
That followed his Twitter activities of last week, when he asked his followers about his upcoming free agency: "Where should I go next season and Should I stay or should I go?"
Since then, Bosh has changed his location on his Twitter page from "Toronto" to "Everywhere," and removed the bio section on the page, which had referred to his status as the captain of the Raptors.
Bosh has been open about courting attention as the NBA playoffs go on without his participation. "Sitting here watching the games wishing I was playing," Bosh wrote Monday night.
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 May 6 2010, 10:57 AM
chad ford's first mock draft has us taking james anderson from oklahoma st., i dont know much about him and its still early. has xavier henry going to the bucks at 15.
Posted by: Sanitarium May 6 2010, 11:34 AM
all i know about him is he's a really good scorer/ shooter
Posted by: Sanitarium May 10 2010, 12:27 PM
Did anyone see rondo last night?
I hate his guts but that was pretty impressive..
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 May 11 2010, 10:32 AM
theres no player in the league that i hate more than rondo...maybe posey but hes the only reason the celtics are in that series right now.
Posted by: Sanitarium May 11 2010, 07:29 PM
oh but how i would love for cleveland to lose
Posted by: Sanitarium May 14 2010, 01:23 PM
heard some rumors about the pacers trading their first rounder for devin harris, probably wont happen unless they get wall imo
Posted by: steve9347 May 18 2010, 06:58 PM
Poor New Jersey!
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 May 18 2010, 07:43 PM
good for us though
Posted by: Sanitarium May 19 2010, 12:58 PM
One guy that hasn't gotten talked about much is rudy gay.. would memphis match any offer for him? not saying i want him (at all), but maybe the knicks would
Posted by: Balta1701-B May 19 2010, 01:19 PM
Grizzlies owner Michael Heisley recently told season-ticket holders that he is going to match whatever offer Gay gets from other teams in free agency. Then again, what is Heisley supposed to tell a group of loyal supporters who are about to receive renewal notices? The fact is, there are those throughout the league who remain skeptical that Heisley will do what it takes to keep Gay.
"I don't understand where all this talk is coming from," Heisley told SI.com. "Just because we are a small-market team and I manage my salary cap, we are not going to let another team come in here and just sign Rudy Gay. We'll do what we need to do, while being rational, to sign Rudy."
Ah, there is the qualifier: "while being rational."
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"Listen, there are some teams out there who have cut their payroll because they are tired of losing money," Heisley said. "I don't know what the latest figures are that the league is giving out for how much money the league is losing [commissioner David Stern said last month that the NBA is losing $400 million], but teams are losing millions of dollars. They are not going to go out and spend that money that they just cut so they can start losing money again. Some teams are just not going to spend."
It only takes one team, however, to foil the Grizzlies' plan. What their limit is remains to be seen. Say, for instance, the Clippers offer Gay, who is making $3.28 million this season, a first-year salary of $12 million. Is that rational or irrational, in Heisley's mind? Is $11 million the cutoff? How about $13 million?
"I am not going to negotiate his contract publicly," Heisley said
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/frank_hughes/03/26/grizzlies.future/index.html I think he's picked out the perfect landing destination for him there in LAC, assuming Lebron doesn't go crazy and decide to go there.
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 May 20 2010, 10:48 PM
random but VDN is actually a pretty good analyst, better the the ones espn already has.
Posted by: Sanitarium May 21 2010, 01:43 PM
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/32450/nba-with-john-hollingeron amare, boozer, and joe johnson getting max deals:
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 May 21 2010, 02:20 PM
bosh has narrowed his list to 5 teams according to chad ford
The list of five teams -- Toronto plus the Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Lakers, Miami Heat and New York Knicks, sources said -- were given to Toronto management in case the Raptors want to construct a sign-and-trade deal (assuming he doesn't re-sign with Toronto).
Bosh likes that option, sources told Ford, because he'd get one more year on his contract and could make more money.
Sources said the Raptors prefer a sign-and-trade if Bosh is intent on leaving as well. They likely would want a big man to replace the 6-10, 230-pound Bosh in the lineup.
One source said Bosh's decision hinges on where LeBron James signs.
"If LeBron decides to go to either New York or Chicago, I think that's where you'll see Chris land," the source told Ford. "If LeBron stays in Cleveland, I think the process is more wide open."
Bosh, 26, is an unrestricted free agent. He averaged 24 points per game last season and has averaged 20.2 points per game for his career.
so does that mean if we get lebron we got bosh too?
Posted by: Balta1701-B May 21 2010, 02:57 PM
IF...and this is a big IF...the Bulls could convince the Raptors to take on Deng's contract...that sounds at least remotely possible.
My word, that team could be a juggernaut.
P.S. Please include http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5208043 to protect the site from legal action.
Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise May 21 2010, 03:03 PM
Seeing how Toronto just payed Turokglu a crap ton of money, I don't see them wanting another huge contract in Deng's for someone who plays the same position.. I have always thought Deng makes perfect sense for someone like Phoenix. They have Grant Hill who's no good anymore and obviously on the downside of his career. Adding Deng gives them another weapon offensively and would improve there overall team defense. Which means I think the Bulls could pull off a sign and trade with Amare, but the Suns may have no interest in entertaining such a deal..
Posted by: Sanitarium May 21 2010, 03:08 PM
^amare may not either. with the success theyve had this year he may not want to leave.
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 May 21 2010, 03:32 PM
oh yeah sorry keep forgetting.
Posted by: Sanitarium May 22 2010, 01:34 PM
dirk opting out
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5210625
Posted by: Cowch May 22 2010, 01:48 PM
If the Bulls do indeed land Lebron, Bosh is definitely not going to want to go somewhere and play with scrubs again. If Toronto won't accept Deng, they may be forced to walk away with nothing. I can't see Bosh being too nice to the Raptors as they never gave him a very good team.
Posted by: rockren May 22 2010, 09:01 PM
The more likely scenario is Deng/Taj, pick for Bron and the Bulls just signing Bosh outright. Everyone around here acts as if it's so impossible for the Cavs to deal Bron for Deng and parts...but lets face it- they can't lose Bron for nothing if he forces their hand.
Posted by: Balta1701-B May 27 2010, 09:31 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-0527-bulls-dwyane-wade-chicago20100526,0,1531138.story questions Bulls' loyalty towards their ex-players.
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"I see Michael Jordan is not there, Scottie Pippen is not there. … You know, these guys are not a part," Wade said. "Things like that. So that is probably one of the biggest things for me, because I am a very loyal person."
Posted by: Sanitarium May 27 2010, 10:59 AM
Maybe the fact that Michael Jordan has been running another NBA team for the past decade has something to do with it? Also, Pippen did work for the Bulls as a scout or something i think
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 May 27 2010, 12:49 PM
Dwade's twitter
wade's response: like most it sells papers tho
Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise May 27 2010, 05:54 PM
How do you take something like that out of context? Wade is obviously either a moron or he's just trying to promote Miami over Chicago and keep Lebron away from here.
Posted by: Balta1701-B May 28 2010, 07:55 AM
The http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-0528-bulls-dwyane-wade-chicago20100527,0,3890436.story http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/2327906,CST-SPT-bull28.article is absolutely having a field day ripping Wade for this just by pointing out how wrong it is.
Posted by: rockren May 28 2010, 05:28 PM
My respect for DWade hasn't really wavered as I think he's a classy guy and a world class teammate. With that said...Wade is worried. I think he knows the potential of what the Bulls could pull off this season, which would pretty much guarantee Wade an early exit out of the playoffs whether he's in NY or Miami for years to come.
Don't kid yourself....Wade reached big time and missed badly.
Posted by: Sanitarium May 29 2010, 09:36 PM
i think amare is gonna end up in ny or stay in phoenix but all of the big names going down hard in the playoffs (except bosh) has gotta be good for us lol
Posted by: Balta1701-B Jun 9 2010, 07:49 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/06/08/amare.suns.ap/index.html?eref=sihp officially declares that he will opt-out of the final year of his contract.
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jun 16 2010, 10:23 AM
http://tmz.com
Sources close to the situation -- but not too close -- tell us the daughters really wanted to get their dad a Lakers jersey for his special day. So, AEG president Tim Leiweke -- whose suite they happened to be sitting in -- ran down to the Lakers team shop in the Staples Center and had an Obama jersey made up on the spot.
To top things off, Phil Jackson even autographed the gear for the kids after the game.
Way cooler than that ugly tie you were gonna get your dad.
too bad hes a bulls fan.
Posted by: Sanitarium Jun 16 2010, 12:12 PM
you saying you wouldnt want that as a gift?
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jun 16 2010, 05:22 PM
no that is awesome but im sure he would much rather have a bulls jersey
Posted by: Balta1701-B Jun 18 2010, 04:34 PM
But Phil autographed it.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Jun 22 2010, 08:42 AM
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1021538about Deng swapping for Gortat and Pietrus. If the Bulls are seriously in the Lebron running, that's a deal that works, clears space for Lebron, and adds depth at C and SG.
Posted by: Sanitarium Jun 23 2010, 11:22 AM
but why would the magic make that deal? deng is basically a higher-paid, less-obnoxious matt barnes
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jun 23 2010, 11:58 AM
weird tweet by mo williams aka @mogotti2
maybe his account was hacked
Posted by: AtHomeBoy_2000 Jun 23 2010, 03:18 PM
maybe his account was hacked
that's... odd.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Jun 23 2010, 03:35 PM
Matt Barnes said in May he'll opt out of his contract and become a free agent.
Posted by: Sanitarium Jun 23 2010, 03:56 PM
but still, theyd be giving away half their bench to have deng and his stupid contract. i just dont see them wanting that
Posted by: ZoomSlowik Jun 23 2010, 04:24 PM
Unless I'm missing something, the Bulls actually GAIN some salary for next year in that trade. Gortat and Pietrus add up to $11.6 mil for next year while Deng makes a little under $11.4 mil. Gortat is signed forever too (at least 13/14), and Pietrus has a player option for 11/12. Considering Gortat kinda sucks, that doesn't make much sense to me. Trading a fairly productive $12 mil player for a less effective but better fit $5 mil player and a $7 mil third post player.
Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Jun 23 2010, 08:49 PM
Here's the latest from Broussard: This is getting intense!
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/17035/why-deng-to-clips-in-swap-of-picks-would-be-good-fit
Posted by: Sanitarium Jun 23 2010, 11:27 PM
Draftexpress says Deng is being shopped but not specifically to the clippers
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jun 23 2010, 11:35 PM
wow i would do deng and 17 for the 8th pick in a heartbeat. not only do we get cap space but we would get a decent player as well like paul george or xavier henry.
Posted by: SoxFan1 Jun 24 2010, 12:52 AM
It's very likely that Omer Asik will be on the Bulls this season. He's been working out with the team at the Berto Center.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Jun 24 2010, 07:54 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/17035/why-deng-to-clips-in-swap-of-picks-would-be-good-fit
The big, big problem with that setup is the draft coming first. If you genuinely don't know where Lebron is ending up, then you leave yourself with a potential gaping hole at SF next year and you're stuck overpaying to get a SF if you don't wind up with Lebron.
That said, to clear his contract, it's a smart gamble.
Posted by: Quinarvy Jun 24 2010, 08:14 AM
On Mike and Mike, Chris Bosh was on this morning.
Greeny asked something and Bosh said it was "interesting" if the Bulls could move Luol Deng because then they'd have 2 max FA room because then they could sign two guys. Greeny asked if it was alluding to playing with LeBron and Bosh said something along the lines of "We'll see."
Also, said Rose is Top 3 PG right now.
Things look good in Chitown.
Posted by: Sanitarium Jun 24 2010, 08:29 AM
That said, to clear his contract, it's a smart gamble.
the bigger problem is its just a trade idea broussard thought up in his hotel room without actually talking to anyone and its not gonna happen.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Au.t7oVR6fTcNKaUsSNmAf68vLYF?slug=ys-draftbuzz062310 saying its unlikely amare resigns with the suns
Posted by: Balta1701-B Jun 24 2010, 12:16 PM
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/06/23/fernandez.trade.rumors/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2
Posted by: Balta1701-B Jun 24 2010, 12:27 PM
Clippers considering http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/06/vinny-del-negro-on-clippers-radar.html
Posted by: Sanitarium Jun 24 2010, 09:26 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5325265 for lebron
desperate much?
Posted by: rockren Jun 25 2010, 09:17 PM
desperate much?
Losers.
Gotta love Bron telling them to come to him.
Posted by: Quinarvy Jun 27 2010, 07:11 PM
Miller and guard Ray Allen(notes) are expected to be the Celtics’ two top priorities in free agency following the retirement of Rasheed Wallace(notes) and a knee injury to Kendrick Perkins(notes).
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ApwNvnNUIZdgEE4fVs4Vqim8vLYF?slug=aw-bradmiller062710
The Celtics are aiming high apparently.
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jun 27 2010, 09:23 PM
i hope the bulls bring miller back though.
Posted by: Quinarvy Jun 28 2010, 01:18 AM
As do I, since I think he'd be a great offensive game tutor to Asik, and continuing to tutor Noah & Taj.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Jun 28 2010, 07:21 AM
If he's interested in still getting playing time, and the Bulls were to sign a PF of some sort, or perhaps even a combination of a PF and SF, I doubt he'd be a good fit for that team, because they'd be at least 4 deep at the big man spots not counting James Johnson and Luol Deng as 'tweeners or trade bait. (The Deng/Gortat deal, for example, would put the Bulls 5 deep on PF/C types, with James and James Johnson at the SF spot).
Posted by: Sanitarium Jun 28 2010, 04:01 PM
I have a feeling the bulls are his first choice to resign with.
When we traded for him, he did a radio interview in Sacremento and started tearing up because he was going to have to move his family from where his kids (who are school age) had grown up and made all their friends. He's a family man and I don't think he wants to move them again
Posted by: Quinarvy Jun 30 2010, 09:06 AM
Melo could be on trading block and Salmons opted out.
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jun 30 2010, 05:49 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/413785-report-raptors-bulls-to-do-sign-trade-bosh-heading-to-chicago?utm_campaign=buzztap&utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter
Moments ago on twitter.com, the first domino affect fell.
According to multiple sources close to the Toronto Raptors front office, All Star Chris Bosh will head to the Chicago Bulls in a sign and trade deal.
The Raptors are still in the works of getting a deal done, but it is believed the sign and trade will get done by Thursday.
There is speculation that Chicago would send Luol Deng and a future first round pick to the club.
It sure does make sense. The Bulls get Bosh, and then the recruiting can begin for either Lebron or Wade to come to Chicago.
Posted by: Sanitarium Jun 30 2010, 06:54 PM
I think going after bosh first is a smart idea. lebron is not a guarantee, and you want to get to bosh before miami does
Posted by: rockren Jun 30 2010, 07:15 PM
Deng, Gibson and the Bobcats 1st Rounder is a great package for Bosh IMO should Bosh choose Chicago.
Miami can't beat that offer....Beasley? The Heat can't give that druggie away.
Posted by: Sanitarium Jun 30 2010, 07:42 PM
Miami can't beat that offer....Beasley? The Heat can't give that druggie away.
It's really kind of sad how quickly... and predictably.. he went from potential first round pick to borderline bust
and im sure the bulls would try to hang onto taj if they could but the bobcats would probably demand it. otherwise they are starting ed davis at PF
Posted by: Sanitarium Jun 30 2010, 07:47 PM
i know i just bashed broussard but according to him, the knicks are meeting with Amare and Joe Johnson first thing tomorrow morning
Posted by: rockren Jun 30 2010, 08:25 PM
and im sure the bulls would try to hang onto taj if they could but the bobcats would probably demand it. otherwise they are starting ed davis at PF
I think it's been a combination of things for Beasley. He's a bit of a tweener and that's hurt him. I feel he also needs to dominate the ball to be successful....something he could never have the chance of doing while playing with Wade.
His own demise are the choices he makes off of the court. He's a malcontent with obvious limited cognitive ability IMO.
Posted by: MB33 Jun 30 2010, 08:52 PM
we definitely need to go after bosh 1st!
Posted by: rockren Jun 30 2010, 09:14 PM
I believe they will. There are a lot of moving parts, though. Whether or not Toronto is willing to take Deng to send him to Chicago in an effort to assure Bosh a max deal...who knows.
Although, Toronto may not have as much leverage as they pretend to...if Bosh wants to leave and eat the $30 mil or so- Toronto may have no choice but to take on a bad contract if they want some young pieces to replace Bosh (AKA Gibson and Bobcats 1st).
Posted by: Sanitarium Jun 30 2010, 09:54 PM
bosh tweeted something like "after all these years its finally happening"
i think he could give less of a fish about toronto
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jun 30 2010, 11:31 PM
saw this on bulls connect
dont know how true that is because by looking at his twitter i think bosh is in texas, unless the bulls are out there.
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jun 30 2010, 11:39 PM
chad ford just tweeted bosh met with houston tonight. i think bosh will be in chicago tomorrow and the bulls will meet with him then.
Posted by: rockren Jul 1 2010, 02:00 AM
This was expected. Houston is in his back yard...he knew they would be knocking on his door, but he also knew he would be making other trips the next few days.
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jul 1 2010, 10:49 AM
bosh tweeted he met with the bulls last night along with 3 other teams.
wade: today
lee:friday
guess that means we are meeting with him last. i also saw on espn that an nba team sent lebron a package to his home last night-hope it was the bulls.
Posted by: Sanitarium Jul 1 2010, 11:08 AM
what the hell are we gonna tell lee? surely were not gonna offer him this early
Posted by: SoxFan1 Jul 1 2010, 01:04 PM
Gooden to MIL: 5 yr, 32 mil
Salmons to MIL: 5 yr, 39 mil
Milicic to MIN: 4 yr, 20 mil
Rudy Gay staying in MEM: 5 yr, 81.6 mil
Posted by: Balta1701-B Jul 1 2010, 01:11 PM
Not exactly a stunner but ESPN is running thathttp://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5346148 between Stoudemire and the Suns.
Posted by: rockren Jul 1 2010, 02:32 PM
Maybe they deem Lee the easiest fish to land to play along side LBJ and company. We wouldn't have to do a sign and trade for him...
and lets face it. Lee can play. He was 20/12 last year while shooting 54% from the field. Those numbers may be inflated due to such a high octane system that blows everything up, but Lee would fit like a glove if we added LBJ.
Posted by: rockren Jul 1 2010, 02:35 PM
Salmons to MIL: 5 yr, 39 mil
Milicic to MIN: 4 yr, 20 mil
Rudy Gay staying in MEM: 5 yr, 81.6 mil
I love Rudy Gay...I would rate him way over Joe Johnson...
but that is pretty crazy. Would you rather owe Rudy Gay (23) that contract...or owe Deng (23) the remaining of his (4 yrs/51 mil)?
Posted by: Balta1701-B Jul 1 2010, 02:58 PM
Deng. By quite a bit.
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jul 1 2010, 03:34 PM
drose is now on twitter
@iamderrickrose
Posted by: rockren Jul 1 2010, 03:50 PM
Same here. Same goes for a Joe Johnson max deal....funny how teams aren't interested in Deng's contract when these kind of dollars have been/will be thrown around to these guys.
I believe the Gay to Grizz right away could help the Bulls facilitate a trade to the Clips in a potential three way involving Deng and the Raps. It's ALL speculation on my part, but it makes sense should the Clips meeting with LBJ not go so well tomorrow.
Posted by: Sanitarium Jul 1 2010, 04:09 PM
Yeah.. no one wants deng or turkoglu but is ok with giving joe johnson 20 million when he's 34. in 4 years were gonna have a whole lot of shaq's lol
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jul 2 2010, 11:12 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/02/dwyane-wade-chris-bosh-photo-lebron-james-nba-free-agents-chicago/
Posted by: DutheDoduhon21 Jul 20 2010, 01:22 PM
the team usa camp started today. they interviewed drose and he said "i just want to make the team, ill be the water boy" lol i noticed he had a bump above his left eye
Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Jul 20 2010, 10:52 PM
Is CP3 and or DWilliams participating? If not, Rose has a very good chance at making the team. There isn't anybody ahead of him after those two IMO, unless you consider Rondo.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Jul 21 2010, 08:15 AM
No CP3 or Dwill or Kidd. Rondo, Billups, and Rose are your top 3 PG candidates.
Posted by: Sanitarium Jul 21 2010, 09:54 AM
this summer should be good for rose as long as he stays healthy. the more time he gets to spend with coach k, jim boeheim, and mike dantoni the better
Posted by: Balta1701-B Jul 25 2010, 01:01 PM
Posted by: Sanitarium Jul 25 2010, 02:58 PM
i dont see how rose doesn't start. i like billups but hes not better than rose, and rondo can't shoot
Posted by: Balta1701-B Jul 29 2010, 07:47 AM
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2010/07/josh-howard-returning-to-the-w.html#moresigned a 1 year deal to return to the Wizards, something in the range of up to $4 million with incentives.
Posted by: rockren Jul 31 2010, 06:18 PM
Glad we didn't invest into that guy. I don't care if he would have offered to play in Chicago for free....very happy to see him somewhere else.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Aug 3 2010, 04:19 PM
Shaq is likely going to http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba/news/story?id=5434969 With Perkins down until around the AS Break, that's at least a warm body to plug in there.
Posted by: Sanitarium Aug 3 2010, 04:57 PM
shaq, garnett, paul pierce, and ray allen is like an AI away from the 2002 all nba team
Posted by: Chicago Bulls Franchise Aug 3 2010, 07:02 PM
Shaq to Boston makes their opener against the Heat that much more exciting. Who'd a thunk that I'd be rooting for the Celtics, but with the 3 egos on Miami, I'll take any team against them!
Posted by: Sanitarium Aug 11 2010, 01:34 PM
four team deal in the works...
hornets get
-trevor ariza
rockets get
-courtney lee
pacers get
-darren collison
-james posey
nets get
-troy murphy
Posted by: Balta1701-B Aug 11 2010, 01:36 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5455472
In the trade, the Houston Rockets sent Ariza to the Hornets, who in turn will send Collison and James Posey to the Pacers.
The Pacers sent Troy Murphy to the New Jersey Nets. And the Nets sent Courtney Lee to the Rockets.
According to the sources, the Rockets, Hornets, Pacers and Nets have agreed to the details of the trade and made it official with the league on Wednesday.
The Hornets didn't stop there. NBA front office sources told ESPN.com's Marc Stein that in a separate deal, the team agreed to send swingman Julian Wright to Toronto for Raptors guard Marco Belinelli. That deal, like the four-team trade, was also expected to be completed Wednesday.
The four-team deal could fill some long-term needs for the Hornets, Pacers and Nets, as well as provide needed salary relief for the Rockets.
For the Hornets, while moving Collison leaves the team without a credible backup for Chris Paul, the addition of Ariza gives them a young, athletic wing entering his prime.
The Hornets are hoping that the addition of Ariza addresses Paul's concerns about the team's commitment to winning by showing that they're willing to spend money to get better. Ariza signed a five year, $34 million deal with the Rockets last summer.
For the Pacers, landing Collison gives them the young starting point guard they've been looking for and adds another piece to a young core of players including Danny Granger, Roy Hibbert and promising rookies Paul George and Lance Stephenson.
The Pacers did take on the last two years and $13 million of Posey's contract, but the deal also sliced another $4 million off the team's overall payroll.
In Murphy, the Nets get the veteran big man that new coach Avery Johnson has been coveting. Murphy is also on the last year of his contract, which could make him an important trading chip for the Nets at the 2011 trade deadline.
For the Rockets, the move is basically a large salary dump. This summer the Rockets spent a lot of cash signing Luis Scola, Kyle Lowry and Brad Miller to free agent contracts and their payroll ballooned. Before the trade, the team was bracing for a $8 million plus luxury tax hit. This deal saves them $28 million on the life of the contract and roughly $10 million (when you factor in luxury tax payments) this season.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Aug 19 2010, 01:00 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19313/the-1-5-pick-and-roll-your-common-household-applianceon the offensive setup and defensive response to the high-post pick and roll play, with a lot of talk about both VDN, Thibodeau, and some of our off defenders.
Posted by: Sanitarium Aug 19 2010, 01:27 PM
Thanks for posting that.
I remember someone on here ripping on VDN for calling those plays because Rose "should be able to beat his man on his own"
Posted by: Balta1701-B Aug 24 2010, 07:55 AM
Ron Shelton, who directed the ESPN "30 for 30" documentary "Jordan Rides the Bus" that airs at 7 p.m. Tuesday, has been disabused of that notion.
"I probably, like most people in America, thought he left the NBA for a year because of gambling," Shelton told us Monday. "After researching the project, I was utterly convinced that was nonsense. And probably like most people, I thought he was a catastrophically bad baseball player. And after researching it, I got a different view about that, as well."
Shelton, who previously wrote and directed hit movies "Bull Durham," "Tin Cup" and "White Men Can't Jump," said he found no reason to believe the NBA quietly punished Jordan for a year because of gambling.
"Everybody that I talked to said they spent hundreds of hours looking for smoking guns and there is not even a leak; it's just circumstantial. It's just a theory," he said.
Posted by: Balta1701-B Aug 25 2010, 08:31 AM
Noah FTW.
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