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ZoomSlowik
post May 26 2008, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE (eddog2 @ May 26 2008, 04:36 PM) *
Don't we have the 39th pick? I don't think Thompson will be there but maybe we can trade up.`


I don't know, I thought someone else mentioned it in another thread that we don't have a second, maybe it got dealt in the Cleveland trade or one of the draft moves in past years? I'm not entirely sure. If we do have it then sure, why not.

Edit- on second thought it looks like we have it, must have mis-read a previous post
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post May 27 2008, 01:30 PM
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Chad Ford has Mock Draft v 2.0 up, and now has the Bulls taking Rose.

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The skinny: Our first mock draft put Michael Beasley atop the list. But the more I hear GM John Paxson speak about the pick, the more it sounds like Rose will be the choice.

I believe Paxson when he says the team hasn't decided. But if he is going to prioritize character, leadership and chemistry in his criteria, Rose will win the battle.

Beasley is a slightly better fit since the Bulls need a low-post scorer and rebounder, but they can't go wrong with Rose. He's ranked as the No. 1 player on our big board.


Interestingly, when you look down at #9, which is where the Bulls would have picked had it not been for the grace of Zoroaster, that's where he has Lopez falling to.
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post May 27 2008, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ May 27 2008, 02:39 PM) *
Chad Ford has Mock Draft v 2.0 up, and now has the Bulls taking Rose.



Interestingly, when you look down at #9, which is where the Bulls would have picked had it not been for the grace of Zoroaster, that's where he has Lopez falling to.

Very nice. Rose!
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post May 27 2008, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ May 27 2008, 02:39 PM) *
Chad Ford has Mock Draft v 2.0 up, and now has the Bulls taking Rose.



Interestingly, when you look down at #9, which is where the Bulls would have picked had it not been for the grace of Zoroaster, that's where he has Lopez falling to.


I found that interesting since size normally wins out in drafts, but if Minnesota opts for Mayo (which is totally possible, maybe even likely) he could be in for a fall like that. Seattle seems like a lock to take Mayo/Bayless, Memphis may take him but would probably opt for a more athletic running big man like Randolph or Jordan (especially since they don't seem to be in a hurry to win), and the Knicks, Clippers and Bucks don't look likely to go big given their current rosters.
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post May 27 2008, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 27 2008, 03:08 PM) *
I found that interesting since size normally wins out in drafts, but if Minnesota opts for Mayo (which is totally possible, maybe even likely) he could be in for a fall like that. Seattle seems like a lock to take Mayo/Bayless, Memphis may take him but would probably opt for a more athletic running big man like Randolph or Jordan (especially since they don't seem to be in a hurry to win), and the Knicks, Clippers and Bucks don't look likely to go big given their current rosters.


I'm not to sure about that. I think Memphis would love another big like Lopez. But you never know. They do seem to think that Marc Gasol is going to come in and be a good player for them so they might not want another center. They might want that athletic big that you are talking about. But the Stromile Swift disaster might make them reconsider that.

I'm not saying I want this to happen in the least but would Paxson trade Noah to the Knicks or Bobcats for Lopez if he slips? With Noah's recent off the court issues I could see him trying to make a statement. Noah was a very good high energy player but Paxson might have a man crush on Lopez's scoring abilities. I don't want it to happen but I could see him making a deal like that.
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post May 27 2008, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE (eddog2 @ May 27 2008, 08:46 PM) *
I'm not to sure about that. I think Memphis would love another big like Lopez. But you never know. They do seem to think that Marc Gasol is going to come in and be a good player for them so they might not want another center. They might want that athletic big that you are talking about. But the Stromile Swift disaster might make them reconsider that.

I'm not saying I want this to happen in the least but would Paxson trade Noah to the Knicks or Bobcats for Lopez if he slips? With Noah's recent off the court issues I could see him trying to make a statement. Noah was a very good high energy player but Paxson might have a man crush on Lopez's scoring abilities. I don't want it to happen but I could see him making a deal like that.


Possibly, but if they unloaded Gasol that easily I have a hard time seeing them being enthralled with Lopez. Yes, I realize there were money issues and Gasol was disgruntled, but offensive fit was also supposedly a big reason. Gasol is pretty mobile for his size and has a high skill level, so I'd think Lopez wouldn't work out for them either considering he doesn't appear to be as good. Plus besides the other Gasol they have money tied up in Darko even if he does suck. In terms of the roster it makes sense, but for their system someone like Randolph seems like a good fit.

As for the second part, I'd think they'd have to be pretty pissed at Noah. Yeah, I could see them liking Lopez, but they picked Noah for a reason and he seems to be their type of player (at least on the floor). They'd have to be pretty anxious to unload a potential headache, which I suppose is possible.
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post May 27 2008, 09:24 PM
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I don't think they'll be getting rid of Noah for his recent actions. I think if he had coupled his marijuana charge with like drunk driving or something, then maybe you could see them do that, but I still think he would just be suspended not traded.

As for Memphis, Marc Gasol is a terrible player. He'll never amount to anything for them, so they better not be banking on him contributing. If Lopez were to fall, everyone in Memphis right now thinks they would take him. And if Mayo falls, then they think they'll take him to pair with Rudy Gay. They'd have a pretty solid 1-2-3 of Mike Conley, O.J. Mayo, and Rudy Gay. And if they take Mayo, look for Mike Miller to be on the trading block for a big man...

Would you trade Tyrus Thomas for Miller, which would then allow us to package Gordon in a trade for a big man?

How would a lineup like this look?
PG - Rose
SG - Miller
SF - Deng
PF - Big man we trade for
C - Noah
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post May 27 2008, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (dasox24 @ May 27 2008, 10:33 PM) *
As for Memphis, Marc Gasol is a terrible player. He'll never amount to anything for them, so they better not be banking on him contributing. If Lopez were to fall, everyone in Memphis right now thinks they would take him. And if Mayo falls, then they think they'll take him to pair with Rudy Gay. They'd have a pretty solid 1-2-3 of Mike Conley, O.J. Mayo, and Rudy Gay.


I don't disagree with that, everything I've read says that Marc Gasol is overweight and unathletic, that's not what they've been saying though. I don't know, Lopez definitely makes sense so I wouldn't be surprised, that just doesn't seem to be their recent MO.
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post May 27 2008, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 27 2008, 08:38 PM) *
I don't disagree with that, everything I've read says that Marc Gasol is overweight and unathletic, that's not what they've been saying though. I don't know, Lopez definitely makes sense so I wouldn't be surprised, that just doesn't seem to be their recent MO.

To be fair, Memphis's recent MO has had little to do with winning NBA games.
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post May 27 2008, 09:40 PM
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what players do yoy think will be left when our 2nd pick comes around? i havnt really seen anything on the second round yet, oviously its hard to predict.
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post May 27 2008, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ May 27 2008, 10:40 PM) *
To be fair, Memphis's recent MO has had little to do with winning NBA games.


No debate there, that's part of the reason I'm thinking they'll take Randolph. I'm wondering if their theory on team building is to tank every year until they finally get an actual franchise player? huh.gif
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post May 27 2008, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE (DutheDoduhon21 @ May 27 2008, 10:49 PM) *
what players do yoy think will be left when our 2nd pick comes around? i havnt really seen anything on the second round yet, oviously its hard to predict.

Yeah, it is hard to predict with a month of workouts still to go till the draft. But, as of now, my best guesses for guys who could still be around would be Joey Dorsey, DJ White, Richard Roby (who was predicted to be a mid-1st rounder before the season started), James Gist, Shan Foster, and Lester Hudson (interesting story, took the long-road to D-1 basketball after a few years of not being in school; is 24 years old).
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post May 27 2008, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 27 2008, 10:59 PM) *
No debate there, that's part of the reason I'm thinking they'll take Randolph. I'm wondering if their theory on team building is to tank every year until they finally get an actual franchise player? huh.gif

Yes, the Gasol trade was ludicrous in that the Grizzlies didn't get much of value in return, but they've taken Rudy Gay and Mike Conley in the last 2 drafts, both of which seem to have "franchise player" potential. Heck, Gay may already have that status if he played in a big city like Chicago or New York, or a better team. Their drafting isn't the problem, which is why I think they'll make the smart decision again this year and take Lopez or Mayo. Of course, if neither is available, then you'll probably see them take Randolph or Love.
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post May 29 2008, 12:35 PM
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Top rated prospects by nbadraft.net (2006-2009)

1. Greg Oden (2007) 106
2 Kevin Durant (2007) , Derrick Rose (2008) 104
4 Michael Beasley (2008) 103
5 Blake Griffin (2009) 100
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post May 29 2008, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE (rangercal @ May 29 2008, 01:44 PM) *
Top rated prospects by nbadraft.net (2006-2009)

1. Greg Oden (2007) 106
2 Kevin Durant (2007) , Derrick Rose (2008) 104
4 Michael Beasley (2008) 103
5 Blake Griffin (2009) 100



Blake Griffin is another player I'm not that sold on. Everyone has hyped him up but I think he has a lot to improve upon before he should ever be on the top 5 rated prospects list. I guess he's on there b/c of his athleticism and b/c all the studs besides him came out this year.

I'm going to say that we need to watch out for Brandon Jennings, Demar DeRozan, and Devin Ebanks next year. I think all 3 freshman are going to have big years.
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