Pre-draft trades thread Options

[Balta1701-B]

This doesn't make sense. Next year is not an odd numbered year.

The Milwaukee Bucks agreed to trade Richard Jefferson to the San Antonio Spurs for Bruce Bowen, Kurt Thomas and Fabricio Oberto, a Bucks source told ESPN.com.

The two teams have agreed to the deal in principle. A trade call to make the deal official will happen later Tuesday.

The move gives the Spurs a dynamic wing scorer to play alongside Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili. The Spurs had promised to make their team better this summer and adding Jefferson for role players should give them a huge shot in the arm.

The Bucks' incentive to make the trade is largely financial. Bowen, Oberto and Thomas are all in the last year of their contracts. The deal will clear $15 million off the books for the Bucks in 2010-11 and give Milwaukee more flexibility for the 2009-10 season. The Bucks expect to save $6.35 million next season after releasing Bowen (only $2 million guaranteed) and Oberto (only $1.9 million guaranteed), a source told ESPN.com.

[Chicago Bulls Fr...]

This deal doesn't make any sense for the Bucks. Do they actually think they have a shot at getting Lebron?

[Balta1701-B]

This deal doesn't make any sense for the Bucks. Do they actually think they have a shot at getting Lebron?

There's 2 different reasons why teams might be trying to save money. One is to go after a marquee FA. The other is to save money.

[Chisoxfn]

This deal doesn't make any sense for the Bucks. Do they actually think they have a shot at getting Lebron?

The deal was more or less because the Bucks want to clear payroll. It doesn't mean they are going to sign someone to a max deal either. I think they just want to flat out shed money due to the poor economy.

[Chisoxfn]

I was listening to Marc Stein today and he said there are only a few teams in the NBA who are willing to make a move like this currently (ie, willing to take on salary). This economy has hit the NBA hard.

[ZoomSlowik]

I'll throw it in here since I'm not sure it deserves it's own thread.

Foye and Miller to the Wiz for #5 (not final)

It's interesting to me that the Wolves are giving up their best guard and another decent one for #5, they don't really save any money on it either. I would guess that means they take two of Harden/Evans/Curry/Holliday at 5 and 6. On the Wiz side, Foye and Arenas seems like a weird combination since they do basically the same thing (jack up a ton of jumpers with no conscience). Of course that also assumes that Arenas is healthy for once.

[Sanitarium]

This deal doesn't make any sense for the Bucks. Do they actually think they have a shot at getting Lebron?

They want to make competitive offers to Villanueva and Sessions when they become restricted FA's after next season. Otherwise they'd be in the luxury tax.

[dasox24]

I'll throw it in here since I'm not sure it deserves it's own thread.

Foye and Miller to the Wiz for #5 (not final)

It's interesting to me that the Wolves are giving up their best guard and another decent one for #5, they don't really save any money on it either. I would guess that means they take two of Harden/Evans/Curry/Holliday at 5 and 6. On the Wiz side, Foye and Arenas seems like a weird combination since they do basically the same thing (jack up a ton of jumpers with no conscience). Of course that also assumes that Arenas is healthy for once.

Wow, so that gives the Wolves 4 first round picks. Looks like they're try to put a good package together for the #2 pick (5 and 18?) and still have 2 picks in the Top 10. For Memphis, it would seem like a smart move b/c trading down would allow them to probably still get Thabeet, Tyreke Evans, or James Harden at 5 while picking up an extra pick.

[rockren]

The deal was more or less because the Bucks want to clear payroll. It doesn't mean they are going to sign someone to a max deal either. I think they just want to flat out shed money due to the poor economy.

Bingo.

I live in the Milwaukee area and yeah...the Bucks have needed to shed money for a LONG time. All Larry Harris did when he took over the GM reigns years ago was spend money. Herb Kohl has been a wonderful owner to the Bucks has he has paid big bucks for years. However, its a thin market in Milwaukee and there isn't any reason for the Bucks to throw high end dollars for low end results anymore.

I look for the Bucks to do everything they can to deal Redd as well. I could see Ben Wallace being offered to the Bucks for Redd. Of course the Bucks would buy out Wallace for around 80 cents on the dollar...but the Bucks could save around 24 million over the next two years with a move like that.

[rockren]

They want to make competitive offers to Villanueva and Sessions when they become restricted FA's after next season. Otherwise they'd be in the luxury tax.

If they can deal Redd somewhere to shed more dollars...they could offer both reasonable contracts and build around Bogut.

[rockren]

Wow, so that gives the Wolves 4 first round picks. Looks like they're try to put a good package together for the #2 pick (5 and 18?) and still have 2 picks in the Top 10. For Memphis, it would seem like a smart move b/c trading down would allow them to probably still get Thabeet, Tyreke Evans, or James Harden at 5 while picking up an extra pick.

What an awful year to trade up that high in the draft.

Minnesota has no idea what they're doing.

[Balta1701-B]

I'll throw it in here since I'm not sure it deserves it's own thread.

Foye and Miller to the Wiz for #5 (not final)

It's interesting to me that the Wolves are giving up their best guard and another decent one for #5, they don't really save any money on it either. I would guess that means they take two of Harden/Evans/Curry/Holliday at 5 and 6. On the Wiz side, Foye and Arenas seems like a weird combination since they do basically the same thing (jack up a ton of jumpers with no conscience). Of course that also assumes that Arenas is healthy for once.

You know, I could see either of those teams being a match for Hinrich now...The Wizards have 2 odd sized, shoot first guards, they could have a use for a defensive one there and they have Miller's contract, and the T-Wolves now have a really weak backcourt, although I'm not sure they have an expiring deal to tempt with now.

[Sanitarium]

eh just another trade http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4284512

only bulls implication i guess would be that it puts another PG (bibby) on the market next to hinrich

[Balta1701-B]

eh just another trade http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4284512

only bulls implication i guess would be that it puts another PG (bibby) on the market next to hinrich

And thread - renamed.

Crawford and Johnson in the backcourt simultaneously? That strikes me as awfully inefficient scoring.

[Chisoxfn]

eh just another trade http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4284512

only bulls implication i guess would be that it puts another PG (bibby) on the market next to hinrich

I can't really say that Crawford is a point guard. Crawford is a 2 guard that plays zero d. Basically a poor mans version of Ben Gordon, imo.