 First Bulls that needs to be traded!, My vote is for Kirk |
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 May 18 2007, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ May 18 2007, 11:40 AM)  Im still on the trade Kirk and or Ben bandwagon. We could probably get a quality big for either of the two. If Tyrus had a point guard who could pass the ball like Conley, he would excel. Kirk is a shoot first point guard which doesn't mesh well with a player like Tyrus. As for Gordon, he is the definition of inconsistent which is why he most likely will be the one gone this offseason for a bigger 2 or hopefully a 4. I'm on board with trading Ben Gordon, simply because of Hinrich's defensive ability. think, move Deng to play SG, Tyrus Thomas at SF, Pau Gasol (Kevin Garnett? - I wish) at PF and Ben Wallace at C...recipe for success or no? Kirk can distribute, contrary to your opinion, so he'd mesh fine with Ty Thomas. |
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May 18 2007, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE (AirScott @ May 18 2007, 01:23 PM) I'm on board with trading Ben Gordon, simply because of Hinrich's defensive ability. think, move Deng to play SG, Tyrus Thomas at SF, Pau Gasol (Kevin Garnett? - I wish) at PF and Ben Wallace at C...recipe for success or no? Kirk can distribute, contrary to your opinion, so he'd mesh fine with Ty Thomas. Kirk....it's hard for me to explain my opinion on this, but he seems like he's a newspaper reading, believe in the hype type player. And the writers in Chicago LOVE Captain Kirk. If he plays a good game, you better believe he will dang near single handedly blow the next one trying to do too much. During that 12-1 Piston run last nigth, his signature run and gun / fouls was all over that. And he has done it more times than I care to think of his whole career. Kirk is an average player with better than average defensive skills who happens to be on a team that thrives on defense. I really wouldn't mind keeping him, but not as a PG. And I do believe one of the two (Gordon) has to go. Either one would be fine with me; make room for Tabo who could be better than both of them with about 100 extra shots a practice... |
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May 18 2007, 06:55 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
This Tyrus talk is making my brain hurt. Trade Kirk and/or Ben so we can pick a rookie guard who might make Tyrus play better?
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May 19 2007, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE (Butterbean10 @ May 18 2007, 04:10 PM) Kirk....it's hard for me to explain my opinion on this, but he seems like he's a newspaper reading, believe in the hype type player. And the writers in Chicago LOVE Captain Kirk. If he plays a good game, you better believe he will dang near single handedly blow the next one trying to do too much. During that 12-1 Piston run last nigth, his signature run and gun / fouls was all over that. And he has done it more times than I care to think of his whole career. Kirk is an average player with better than average defensive skills who happens to be on a team that thrives on defense. I really wouldn't mind keeping him, but not as a PG. And I do believe one of the two (Gordon) has to go. Either one would be fine with me; make room for Tabo who could be better than both of them with about 100 extra shots a practice... Damn, it's nice to see that people agree and I don't have to convince them of what I've been saying. Anyway, if Gordon goes hopefully it will be for a very good big man. We could then either draft Conley and have a Conley/Hinrich backcourt or draft Brewer and have a Brewer/Hinrich/Sefolosha backcourt. That would be one great defensive rotation. Anyway, I really don't want to see Gordon go b/c he's improved so much each year. I really think we are a big man away from having his game explode to a new level. The same can be said of Deng. Either that or a real PG could help in that area. I've always said that I think Kirk should be a SG. There are options there for the Bulls if they do decide to trade Gordon and keep Hinrich. Imagine getting a pass first PG that passes to a shoot first PG that knows how to pass (somewhat). That could throw a lot of defenses off balance if Kirk actually makes the extra pass. Only problem with trading Gordon is you trade away your only dominate scorer and then do you have trouble scoring? I can't say I want to rely on Kirk to bring home the W's in the 4th quarter. Hopefully, the PF we get can take care of that. |
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May 19 2007, 12:45 AM
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Bench Group: Members Posts: 387 Joined: 18-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 66 |
I say keep the core + lottery pick, and get another decent veteran big via free agency or trade.
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May 19 2007, 09:50 AM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 721 Joined: 21-April 07 Member No.: 781 |
Trading Gordon would put all the scoring pressure onto Deng next season, yikes.
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