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Posted by: Kalapse Jul 16 2007, 03:57 PM

Hizzah!

Posted by: Heads22 Jul 16 2007, 04:14 PM

I love me some Danks.

Posted by: Kalapse Jul 16 2007, 04:15 PM

The Sox are winning.

Posted by: Soxbadger Jul 16 2007, 04:22 PM

The Sox frustrate me so much that I dont even know what to say.

I do know that I like there are only 3 members and not one of them Im afraid will say something that will make me want to hang myself smile.gif

Posted by: Kalapse Jul 16 2007, 05:04 PM

It makes me ill to hear Jim Thome get booed.

Posted by: Kalapse Jul 16 2007, 05:22 PM

The Cubs traded for the insanely overpaid Jason Kendall.

Posted by: b-riann Jul 16 2007, 06:20 PM

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 16 2007, 06:31 PM) *
The Cubs traded for the insanely overpaid Jason Kendall.

and his 226 average, even though hes hitting 287 in his last 25 games

Posted by: Mr. Showtime Jul 16 2007, 06:47 PM

I got home to an 11-5 game, and I see the bullpen is up to it's old tricks.

Posted by: Brian Jul 16 2007, 06:56 PM

Micro-managing gives me headaches.

Up 6 runs, Thornton gives up a single. Big whoop. Let's bring in Suckvich.

If Uribe can't play defense, he is worthless. Even more so than he is now.

Posted by: Buehrle-gt-Wood Jul 16 2007, 06:59 PM

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 16 2007, 06:31 PM) *
The Cubs traded for the insanely overpaid Jason Kendall.

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Who did they give up??

Posted by: dasox24 Jul 16 2007, 07:07 PM

QUOTE (Buehrle-gt-Wood @ Jul 16 2007, 08:08 PM) *
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Who did they give up??

C Rob Bowen and P Jerry Blevins. Not a big loss for the Cubs... This is the type of trade I'd be fine with if we traded Contreras b/c it would get rid of his fat contract.

Posted by: Kalapse Jul 16 2007, 07:08 PM

QUOTE (Buehrle-gt-Wood @ Jul 16 2007, 08:08 PM) *
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Who did they give up??

Rob Bowen and Jerry Blevins. The Pirates are paying $5M of his salary for this season so the Cubs will only have to pay him about $4M for the rest of the season (pro-rated from $8M).

Posted by: Brian Jul 16 2007, 07:09 PM

Opposing teams should have no problem running on the Cubs anymore.

Posted by: DrunkBomber Jul 16 2007, 07:11 PM

I also think Oakland is picking up 5 mil of Kendalls contract

Posted by: Kalapse Jul 16 2007, 07:12 PM

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jul 16 2007, 08:20 PM) *
I also think Oakland is picking up 5 mil of Kendalls contract

That's the $5M that Pittsburgh is already paying. Oakland doesn't give out cash.

So what are the odds Bobby closes this thing out right here with no problems?

Posted by: Balta1701-B Jul 16 2007, 07:22 PM

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 16 2007, 06:21 PM) *
That's the $5M that Pittsburgh is already paying. Oakland doesn't give out cash.

So what are the odds Bobby closes this thing out right here with no problems?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2938997 certainly says the A's are including some cash.
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Kendall, who signed a six-year $60 million contract with Pittsburgh before the 2002 season, is making $13 million this season in the final year of the deal.

Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said Kendall would do his best to join the Cubs for Tuesday night's game against the Giants at Wrigley Field. The Cubs also get cash in the deal.


Anyway...how in the world do you go from 11-2 to 11-10?

If nothing else, I guess our bullpen is padding Bobby's save numbers with games like today. Yeesh.

Posted by: b-riann Jul 16 2007, 07:43 PM

W

not pretty, but we got it done

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jul 16 2007, 09:57 PM

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 16 2007, 04:31 PM) *
The Cubs traded for the insanely overpaid Jason Kendall.

ESPN initially reported it was for Sean Marshall and I was laughing hysterically that the Cubs would give up that much. A change of scenery could do Kendall good but I still have some serious doubts as to why the Cubs would want Kendall (I'd think there would be better options..maybe a Bengie Molina since the Giants are falling further and further out).

I am glad that this move will allow Suzuki to become the everyday catcher for the A's.

Posted by: Bullseye Jul 16 2007, 10:39 PM

I fail to see how the Cubs upgraded the catching position... in fact, they might have downgraded, IMO.

Posted by: Bullseye Jul 17 2007, 12:39 PM

since soxtalk is still down, I might as well post this here. Massett was optioned down to AAA and Wasserman was called up.

Posted by: Bullseye Jul 17 2007, 12:51 PM

crede was moved to the 60 day DL to make room. Also, the tribune reported that the Diamondbacks played Conor Jackson in LF to showcase him for a possible trade with us.

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Jul 17 2007, 01:06 PM

Wow, Wasserman... We are really dipping deep into the farm system to find anything.

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jul 17 2007, 01:41 PM

Just in case you guys haven't read the message on soxtalk. The site will open as soon as I get home from work tonight (the last and final query took extra long...24 hours).

Posted by: Bullseye Jul 17 2007, 01:59 PM

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 17 2007, 02:50 PM) *
Just in case you guys haven't read the message on soxtalk. The site will open as soon as I get home from work tonight (the last and final query took extra long...24 hours).

for some reason the message is in white for me... if anyone else has a problem seeing the post just highlight it.

Posted by: SoxFan1 Jul 17 2007, 06:06 PM

The message appears in white font and is not visible because of the white background. A few more touch-ups and it will be open.

Posted by: Chisoxfn Jul 17 2007, 06:28 PM

1.16 million posts have been rebuild so far. There is about 1.5 million of them total. So that puts us around 9 PM tonight.

Posted by: Mr. Showtime Jul 17 2007, 07:02 PM

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 17 2007, 07:37 PM) *
1.16 million posts have been rebuild so far. There is about 1.5 million of them total. So that puts us around 9 PM tonight.


I like the buttons here on talkBulls.

Posted by: DrunkBomber Jul 17 2007, 07:38 PM

Is it almost showtime at Soxtalk yet?

Posted by: Mr. Showtime Jul 17 2007, 07:48 PM

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jul 17 2007, 08:47 PM) *
Is it almost showtime at Soxtalk yet?


It's always Showtime. MIRITE? lolhitting.gif

Posted by: DrunkBomber Jul 17 2007, 08:01 PM

I cant believe Mack held him at third there

Posted by: b-riann Jul 17 2007, 08:31 PM

jenks sucks now too puke.gif Drinking.gif chair.gif

Posted by: Rowand44 Jul 17 2007, 08:45 PM

I don't think Day realizes that he has an above average fastball. He's in love with his slider.

Posted by: Buehrle-gt-Wood Jul 17 2007, 08:58 PM

Ugh.

Posted by: SoxFan1 Jul 17 2007, 09:01 PM

Haha, and I said to myself earlier, I bet the Sox lose in extra innings and KW makes a trade. laugh.gif

Posted by: Kalapse Jul 17 2007, 09:06 PM

Ugh there's a reason why I've been such an adamant proponent of dealing Jenks.

Posted by: Bullseye Jul 17 2007, 09:11 PM

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 17 2007, 10:15 PM) *
Ugh there's a reason why I've been such an adamant proponent of dealing Jenks.

same here... he was hitting 96-97 on the clock though...

Posted by: Bullseye Jul 17 2007, 09:12 PM

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 17 2007, 09:54 PM) *
I don't think Day realizes that he has an above average fastball. He's in love with his slider.

I agree... But I also think he is mainly a 1 inning pitcher, as in all of the times I've seen him pitch, if he goes more then 1 inning, he usually gets hit. But there was no choice but let him pitch in extras...

Posted by: Bullseye Jul 17 2007, 09:19 PM

so, is soxtalk delayed a bit still? I am going through withdrawal right now.

Posted by: Kalapse Jul 17 2007, 09:26 PM

QUOTE (Bullseye @ Jul 17 2007, 10:28 PM) *
so, is soxtalk delayed a bit still? I am going through withdrawal right now.

It should be some time tonight.

Posted by: Bullseye Jul 17 2007, 09:46 PM

little minors update here. Sweeney has homered in his past two games, with one being a grand slam. Richar got 4 hits yesterday I think and got one or two today, and a homer. He has been playing mainly shortstop and has his average up to almost .360 with Charlotte (.300+ all together). Broadway bounced back yesterday as well by going 7 strong and striking out 8. Gio lost yesterday though.

Posted by: Bullseye Jul 17 2007, 09:49 PM

Poreda finally made an appearance. Pitched 1 inning of relief for great falls. struck out 2 and gave up 1 hit.

Posted by: dasox24 Jul 17 2007, 10:09 PM

QUOTE (Bullseye @ Jul 17 2007, 10:55 PM) *
little minors update here. Sweeney has homered in his past two games, with one being a grand slam. Richar got 4 hits yesterday I think and got one or two today, and a homer. He has been playing mainly shortstop and has his average up to almost .360 with Charlotte (.300+ all together). Broadway bounced back yesterday as well by going 7 strong and striking out 8. Gio lost yesterday though.

*shaking* I need my SoxTalk fix...

Seriously, Richar is just awesome right now. I really wanted to see what he can do in the bigs. Sweeney too for that matter... And, it's great to see Poreda finally pitch again.

Posted by: Bullseye Jul 17 2007, 10:27 PM

while we are waiting for our soxtalk fix... any thought on Conor Jackson? I'm a big fan of his, and would love to get him.

Posted by: dasox24 Jul 17 2007, 10:35 PM

QUOTE (Bullseye @ Jul 17 2007, 11:36 PM) *
while we are waiting for our soxtalk fix... any thought on Conor Jackson? I'm a big fan of his, and would love to get him.

I would too, as long as it weren't in a Garland trade, for example. If we could trade Contreras + prospect for Jackson, I'd be all over that. His .261 avg. isn't what the D'Backs were imagining this year, but his OBP (.364) is still pretty good for a .260 hitter thanks to his great eye (11 more BB's than K's).

Posted by: Bullseye Jul 17 2007, 11:39 PM

QUOTE (dasox24 @ Jul 17 2007, 11:44 PM) *
I would too, as long as it weren't in a Garland trade, for example. If we could trade Contreras + prospect for Jackson, I'd be all over that. His .261 avg. isn't what the D'Backs were imagining this year, but his OBP (.364) is still pretty good for a .260 hitter thanks to his great eye (11 more BB's than K's).

Agreed. I really hope Contreras and maybe someone like McCulloch could get Jackson to the southside... but I have my doubts about that.

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Jul 18 2007, 04:11 AM

At least Chuck Haegar looked good tonight. His eighth inning had to be a nice confidence booster.

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Jul 18 2007, 04:12 AM

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 17 2007, 09:54 PM) *
I don't think Day realizes that he has an above average fastball. He's in love with his slider.


Yeah, the only way that slider is effective is if the hitters think a fastball is coming. The fastball has to be his primary pitch in order for them to fear the slider. If they think the slider is coming, they will just take it for a strike and get 2-0/3-1 and look for the fastball instead.

Posted by: Flash Tizzle Jul 18 2007, 04:28 PM

Yeah, I thought Soxtalk was fixed. Two days should have been enough to configure these problems.

All I have to say is this -- WSI doesn't have these concerns. jpshakehead.gif
































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Posted by: Bullseye Jul 18 2007, 09:12 PM

Floyd pitched 8 innings for Charlotte today, giving up 2 runs on 3 hits while striking out 10 and walking 2. He got the ND today, mainly in part from no help from the dynamic duo up front, Podsednik and Erstad. Combined, they went 1-10 with 3 strike outs and leaving 3 runners on. Sweeney cooled down by going 0-4 with a BB but Richar got a couple more hits today.

Posted by: Mr. Showtime Jul 18 2007, 09:39 PM

What the hell happened to ST? Sheesh, I go to work for 8 hours and the board is down again.

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Jul 19 2007, 05:12 AM

Can I just say... I love Chuck Haeger.

Posted by: madisonsmadhouse Jul 19 2007, 09:07 AM

Anyone else think part of the bullpen's problem this year is that there is really no variation between what the guys look like? They are all mostly the same build and height, and they all are pretty much the same type of pitcher. I think with guys like Haeger and Wasserman who bring completely different looks and arm angles, they could change the look of the pen a lot. Thoughts?

Posted by: soxfan3530 Jul 19 2007, 09:38 AM

AHHHH! i have nothing to do at work today! i need my soxtalk!!

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