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post Jul 12 2012, 12:10 PM
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Michael Jordan's reaction to Kobe's comments that this year's Olympic team could've beaten the '92 Dream Team: "I absolutely laughed"
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post Jul 12 2012, 12:57 PM
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Michael Jordan is correct.
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post Jul 12 2012, 01:24 PM
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There's a thing called post players. The original Dream Team actually had them.
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post Jul 12 2012, 02:27 PM
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"We had 11 Hall of Famers on that team. Remember now, they learned from us. We didn't learn from them." -MJ
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post Jul 12 2012, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jul 12 2012, 03:27 PM) *
"We had 11 Hall of Famers on that team. Remember now, they learned from us. We didn't learn from them." -MJ


Some people have been saying that it could happen if you re-add Rose, Wade, Bosh, and Howard.

That's hilarious. Let's take out Laettner and add Shaq or Hakeem. I'll roll with Hakeem since he was in the league. Replace Mullin with a healthy Nique.

PG: Magic/Stockton vs. Paul/Rose/Williams
SG: Jordan/Drexler vs. Kobe/Wade
SF : Bird/Pippen/Wilkins vs. James/Durant/Anthony
PF : Barkley/Malone vs. Bosh/Love
C : Robinson/Ewing/Olajuwon vs. Howard/Chandler

Point Guard: Magic can post up any of the three point guards. Stockton was a ball thief and great assist man. Paul and Rose can try to wear down Magic/Stockton enough for Williams to do some damage. I'd say a tie, due to the '12 depth and fresh legs.

Shooting Guard: In prime Jordan and Drexler vs. old Wade and Kobe. '92 wins by a mile.

Small Forward: Bird and Pippen have the best BBIQ in this group and Bird could still ball in his last season. Nique was a better player all-around than Anthony. Slight edge to '92 because James in his prime would beat Bird, Pippen is the unmovable object vs. Durant the unstoppable force, and Nique beats Anthony easily.

Power Forward: Barkley, although undersized, would dominate the glass when paired against Bosh. Throw in his thunderous athleticism and the fact that Bosh doesn't get physical, Barkley wins there. Malone could easily post up and defend Love. Advantage '92.

Center: Robinson takes Howard to school. Ewing draws Chandler from the basket. Hakeem can go in to decimate either one. Hakeem would probably start. '92 by a mile.

If you ran a line up of Magic-Jordan-Nique-Barkley-Hakeem, it'd be showtime. The current roster would be lost at what to do.
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post Jul 13 2012, 06:58 AM
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I wouldn't pick Olajuwon for Team USA simply because he was born in Africa and lived there until he was like 16 IIRC. But it is still an excellent post.
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post Jul 13 2012, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 12 2012, 09:53 PM) *
Some people have been saying that it could happen if you re-add Rose, Wade, Bosh, and Howard.

That's hilarious. Let's take out Laettner and add Shaq or Hakeem. I'll roll with Hakeem since he was in the league. Replace Mullin with a healthy Nique.

PG: Magic/Stockton vs. Paul/Rose/Williams
SG: Jordan/Drexler vs. Kobe/Wade
SF : Bird/Pippen/Wilkins vs. James/Durant/Anthony
PF : Barkley/Malone vs. Bosh/Love
C : Robinson/Ewing/Olajuwon vs. Howard/Chandler

Point Guard: Magic can post up any of the three point guards. Stockton was a ball thief and great assist man. Paul and Rose can try to wear down Magic/Stockton enough for Williams to do some damage. I'd say a tie, due to the '12 depth and fresh legs.

Shooting Guard: In prime Jordan and Drexler vs. old Wade and Kobe. '92 wins by a mile.

Small Forward: Bird and Pippen have the best BBIQ in this group and Bird could still ball in his last season. Nique was a better player all-around than Anthony. Slight edge to '92 because James in his prime would beat Bird, Pippen is the unmovable object vs. Durant the unstoppable force, and Nique beats Anthony easily.

Power Forward: Barkley, although undersized, would dominate the glass when paired against Bosh. Throw in his thunderous athleticism and the fact that Bosh doesn't get physical, Barkley wins there. Malone could easily post up and defend Love. Advantage '92.

Center: Robinson takes Howard to school. Ewing draws Chandler from the basket. Hakeem can go in to decimate either one. Hakeem would probably start. '92 by a mile.

If you ran a line up of Magic-Jordan-Nique-Barkley-Hakeem, it'd be showtime. The current roster would be lost at what to do.


I'm not putting Olajuwon on that team.

PG goes to the 2012 team, Magic was old and Stockton was good but he won't stop Rose from scoring or Paul from running the show.

SG pretty easily goes to '92. Would have to say I'd be interested in what it would look like to have LeBron guarding Jordan, but then your 2 has to guard a three (I'd actually just play LeBron at the 2).

SF goes to '12. LeBron and Durant are IMO better than any '92 SF and you can actually play them both at the same time.

PF goes to '92 just because I don't know whether any of the '12 guys could hold their ground in the post.

C goes to '92 but something like fouls could easily sway it the other way. Dwight Howard would certainly be the best athlete of the group and depending on the style of game that could be immensely important.

'92 wins in all likelihood but I can see many of the games coming down to LeBron vs Jordan and that could mean that '12 would get some wins.


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post Jul 13 2012, 09:06 AM
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Hakeem wasn't eligible yet in '92 IIRC, still ironing out his international eligibility.
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post Jul 13 2012, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 13 2012, 09:46 AM) *
C goes to '92 but something like fouls could easily sway it the other way. Dwight Howard would certainly be the best athlete of the group and depending on the style of game that could be immensely important.


This makes me think you didn't see much of David Robinson at his peak. He was a freak.

Also, Dwight getting in foul trouble would be a far bigger deal than Ewing or Robinson getting in foul trouble. The 1992 guys have comparable production whereas 2012 going to the bench results in a big drop in offense (Chandler) or defense (Bosh).
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post Jul 13 2012, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 13 2012, 10:22 AM) *
This makes me think you didn't see much of David Robinson at his peak. He was a freak.


The only thing Howard had/has on Robinson was brute strength. The Admiral was a very well rounded big man. Great post up game, solid mid range game, and great positional rebounder. He could score at will in his day.
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post Jul 13 2012, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 13 2012, 10:46 AM) *
SG pretty easily goes to '92. Would have to say I'd be interested in what it would look like to have LeBron guarding Jordan, but then your 2 has to guard a three (I'd actually just play LeBron at the 2).

SF goes to '12. LeBron and Durant are IMO better than any '92 SF and you can actually play them both at the same time.

Here's where you're missing things. Lebron is a better all around player than Scottie...but Scottie and Bird against Lebron on defense is going to make things Hell on Earth for Lebron. Michael isn't going to defend Lebron...when James is on the outside, Scottie is between him and the basket, with Ewing and Robinson over the top as backup help if Lebron can get by. This is an impossible situation for Lebron.

OTOH, if Lebron tries to get his in the low post....he has Malone and Barkley to contend with. Since the 12 team has no other post scoring threat, those guys can combine with Robinson/Ewing and make the low post a nightmare.

And while Durant is an incredible scorer...yes it was late in his career...but so is Larry.

The only position I'm giving a clear advantage to is the 2012 point guards, solely because Magic was on his last legs/dealing with AIDS. But this was one year after he literally carried the entire Lakers team to the finals past better teams before he had to deal with being defended by Scottie. So it's closer than you might want to think...and then you have to ask what's going to happen if those guys start attempting to drive into the lane with Ewing and Robinson there, and Jordan as an extra defensive option if needed (remember what he did to "The Glove". That wasn't fair).
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post Jul 13 2012, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 13 2012, 10:06 AM) *
Hakeem wasn't eligible yet in '92 IIRC, still ironing out his international eligibility.


Then Shaq gets on, and it's nasty.
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