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> The Dwight Howard Drama Thread, Today: wants to be traded
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post Jul 1 2012, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 1 2012, 02:02 PM) *
They couldn't offer Harden a max deal if they were still holding on to Butler, and they might not be able to anyway. Assume both Rose and Howard are close to $19 million, makes $38. If Butler would be $2 million, Teague another $1 million, puts them at about $41 million. If the cap stays at $58, then Harden cannot be offered. Have to trade away the kids too.

The only reason the Heat were able to do all 3 was...2 of their guys (Wade and Lebron) actually took less than the max deal.


I can see one of the SGs (Harden, Martin, or Ellis) taking less than a max deal if it means they get to play with Rose and Howard on what is def a championship caliber team.
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post Jul 1 2012, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jul 1 2012, 02:08 PM) *
I can see one of the SGs (Harden, Martin, or Ellis) taking less than a max deal if it means they get to play with Rose and Howard on what is def a championship caliber team.


They would have to take significantly less. Look at the way the Knicks' roster is distributed right now, that's about the best you can hope for. You really don't have any room for anything else with two max and another guy over $10 mil.
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post Jul 1 2012, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 1 2012, 02:11 PM) *
They would have to take significantly less. Look at the way the Knicks' roster is distributed right now, that's about the best you can hope for. You really don't have any room for anything else with two max and another guy over $10 mil.


You wouldn't need much more really, the second unit would have to rely on draft picks and vet minimums but with that starting unit I'd be fine with it. Trade Taj for a good pick next year (and future picks), maybe sign and trade ASik for a 1st rounder, and they have 2 picks next year. That would give you 4 picks next year.

Rose/Teague
Harden/
Butler
Mirotic/
Howard/

You can fill the roster with those picks, an MLE and a good vet who takes the minimum.

As you know I'm terrible at figuring out the cap so I'm probably still wrong....It's doubtful but maybe Dwight pulls a Lebron and takes less too??
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post Jul 1 2012, 02:14 PM
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Mirotic alone would really hurt their cause. Check out the article Madhouse posted in the Mirotic thread. That also assumes he's here before 2015.
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post Jul 1 2012, 02:22 PM
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I don't think anyone wants to trade a 1st rounder for Omer, but I would have thought the same thing about Thabo
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post Jul 1 2012, 02:39 PM
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If there are teams wanting to pay him 8 mill I think he may get you a first.

Say the Rockets offered him 8, would the sign and trade have to be Asik at 8mill? By that I mean can the Bulls sign him to say a 3 or 4 mill contract then trade him? That would up his value a lot.
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post Jul 1 2012, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jul 1 2012, 02:39 PM) *
If there are teams wanting to pay him 8 mill I think he may get you a first.

Say the Rockets offered him 8, would the sign and trade have to be Asik at 8mill? By that I mean can the Bulls sign him to say a 3 or 4 mill contract then trade him? That would up his value a lot.


Nope, have to give him what was offered
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post Jul 1 2012, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 1 2012, 12:13 PM) *
PLayes association suggests Howard will have a grievance against the club, and may push to be declared a free agent and have his option overturned.


I hate him. So much.
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post Jul 2 2012, 06:55 AM
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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 1 2012, 04:43 PM) *
I hate him. So much.


This. In the real world they call this "negotiations". By his standards, Howard must be guilty of blackmail and collusion, right?
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post Jul 2 2012, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jul 2 2012, 08:55 AM) *
This. In the real world they call this "negotiations". By his standards, Howard must be guilty of blackmail and collusion, right?

The one thing that makes him possibly have a case is that whole deal with Van Gundy knowing Howard demanded he be fired. You can come up with plenty of scenarios where that joke of a press conference was the place where some handshake deal was violated.
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post Jul 2 2012, 07:15 AM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 2 2012, 08:01 AM) *
The one thing that makes him possibly have a case is that whole deal with Van Gundy knowing Howard demanded he be fired. You can come up with plenty of scenarios where that joke of a press conference was the place where some handshake deal was violated.


Sure, like negotiations in bad faith by Howard?
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post Jul 2 2012, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jul 2 2012, 09:15 AM) *
Sure, like negotiations in bad faith by Howard?

Does he have a right to ask for a coach he's comfortable with, and does he have a right to expect that conversations about a coaching change would be private between him and the organization?
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post Jul 2 2012, 07:32 AM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 2 2012, 08:23 AM) *
Does he have a right to ask for a coach he's comfortable with, and does he have a right to expect that conversations about a coaching change would be private between him and the organization?


According to Howard, that would be blackmail.
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