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[ZoomSlowik]

Garnett makes our team a lot better, but it's not really going to help if it costs us Hinrich or Deng and Chandler. I'd pray that Gordon, Nocioni, and the two picks is enough (yeah, I know, not too likely). Otherwise it's not really worth the deal.

[ZoomSlowik]

I agree that I wouldnt want to lose them either but, I HOPE TO GOD we do not get Garnett this offseason. His knees are shot and I wouldnt be suprised if he retired in about 2 years because with all that banging around since he was 18, hes been in the league I think about 10+ years now and what isnt he like 30 now? Garnett is now past his prime and though he is still good, not likely for long. I dont want a guy with bad of knees he has. I might like the Idea of Pierce though but he is a SF and so is Deng, so were would they play?

How are his knees shot? Did I miss something? Last I checked he's still playing every night, and doing it damn well. He's still extremely athletic, and he's still putting up over 20 points, 10 boards, and 4 assists. This is his 11th year and he's 30 in May, but that still doesn't mean he's close to the end. He could easily have 5 good years left. Getting Garnett or O'Neal is the only way we are any kind of threat in the near future. No two players in this draft make us an immediate conference finals threat: those guys do if we can get them without gutting the team.

Plus Pierce has been a 2 guard for some time now, which would fit in well if we deal Gordon.

[ZoomSlowik]

The Lakers got absolutely Jack Sh*t for Shaq. They literally got screwed.

They got the wonderful pleasure of taking on Brian Grant's contract which was so horrendous they used that amnesty provision to drop him like a rock last summer to avoid the luxury tax on it, Lamar Odom, another overpaid piece that seems to not fit in anywhere it gets plugged, and Caron Butler, who was packaged to Washington with Chucky Atkins for Kwame Brown.

The worst part of that was Brian Grant's albatross. They gave up Shaq to get one of the worst contracts outside of Manhattan, and that screwed them out of any decent salary cap space for several more years, to the point that Kobe may start wearing down before they can bring in anyone to play alongside him.

The package was a lot more impressive at the time of the deal, although obviously now it looks like crap. Odom was coming off an All-star level season, Butler was a fairly promising young forward that already was playing pretty well, and Grant was still a somewhat productive forward at the time. Yeah, it wasn't really an acceptable package for Shaq, but they were desperate to move him, and that was the best they could do. They didn't get a decent big man back in the deal, which has really killed them.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Garnett makes our team a lot better, but it's not really going to help if it costs us Hinrich or Deng and Chandler. I'd pray that Gordon, Nocioni, and the two picks is enough (yeah, I know, not too likely). Otherwise it's not really worth the deal.

Again, why wouldn't you wanna trade tyson in a package for Garnett???

If it could be tyson instead of a draft pick along with Ben and Noc, I'd do it in a heartbeat. And that's probably more on par depending on how the salaries need to match up...

[Chisoxfn]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2389608
Wolves owner comes out and says he won't trade KG.

[ZoomSlowik]

Again, why wouldn't you wanna trade tyson in a package for Garnett???

If it could be tyson instead of a draft pick along with Ben and Noc, I'd do it in a heartbeat. And that's probably more on par depending on how the salaries need to match up...

I don't really have anything angainst trading Tyson, but trading one big man and another pick that could get us another decent one seems like it's a little much. I don't really see that as a lot of progress even though Garnett is about 10 times better than anyone we have right now. We'd need to find another center, which we're already having problems with. If we could somehow keep the Knicks' pick, which I'm not sure we could, then yeah, I'll even pack Tyson's bags.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2389608
Wolves owner comes out and says he won't trade KG.

Until KG asks to be traded.

This would probably be one of the very few times I side with a player if he asks to be traded. KG is known as a class act and a fiece competitor who wants to win. He's done all that he could with the wolves, but the right pieces have not been put around him and he's getting too old to go through rebuilding since it does seem that he would really want a ring.

[Balta1701-B]

Again, why wouldn't you wanna trade tyson in a package for Garnett???

If it could be tyson instead of a draft pick along with Ben and Noc, I'd do it in a heartbeat. And that's probably more on par depending on how the salaries need to match up...

I wouldn't want to trade Tyson in a deal for KG because KG is the compliment Tyson needs. Tyson can play some excellent defense down low and rebound damn well, but he just can't handle it as an offensive player.

If we were to move Tyson for KG and also had to drop our #1 draft pick...KG would basically be our big guy. By taking on KG, we'd have blown all of our salary cap room, so we'd basically be totally unable to sign anyone, and if getting KG costs us both Tyson and our #1 pick, then we would have no way as far as I can see to effectively have both a center and a power forward. Literally, that Schenscher or whatever the hell his name is would probably wind up in our starting lineup. That, I see it, would simply be terrible. We couldn't compete with teams at the top of the division if Garnett had to guard both Rasheed and Ben Wallace, for example.

If it was Tyson, and we still got to keep our #1 pick...I could tolerate that, if our draft pick was top 2-3. You can't give up both though.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

I wouldn't want to trade Tyson in a deal for KG because KG is the compliment Tyson needs. Tyson can play some excellent defense down low and rebound damn well, but he just can't handle it as an offensive player.

If we were to move Tyson for KG and also had to drop our #1 draft pick...KG would basically be our big guy. By taking on KG, we'd have blown all of our salary cap room, so we'd basically be totally unable to sign anyone, and if getting KG costs us both Tyson and our #1 pick, then we would have no way as far as I can see to effectively have both a center and a power forward. Literally, that Schenscher or whatever the hell his name is would probably wind up in our starting lineup. That, I see it, would simply be terrible. We couldn't compete with teams at the top of the division if Garnett had to guard both Rasheed and Ben Wallace, for example.

If it was Tyson, and we still got to keep our #1 pick...I could tolerate that, if our draft pick was top 2-3. You can't give up both though.

But they're both PFs, and KG is light years ahead of tyson. They play the same position, and it's just weird to me keeping tyson along with the player he's supposed to at least be half as good as at this point. Neither is a C. Plus I feel that tyson is overpaid.

And it said in my post that you quoted that I would only wanna give up one draft pick. Unlikely, I know.

I doubt they'd take tyson, ben, and the 2nd 1st-rounder instead of the 1st, but I'd cream my pants if that happened. It's possible if KG really wants out and is a huge closet Bulls fan? He doesn't seem like the disgruntled type. Anyways, I'm not a big fan of playing GM and these make-believe scenarios since I'll probably always be wrong.