When will something good happen in the Pax era? |
When will something good happen in the Pax era? |
May 13 2008, 11:04 AM
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Rookie Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: 11-July 06 Member No.: 210 |
I split season tickets with 2 buddies of mine. A year after the Bulls win 33 games, the team has raised ticket prices and demanded full payment by May 19th. This is most likely before they name a head coach and before the draft. What has this team done to deserve a raise in ticket prices? 33 wins? Come on. Needless to say, we decided against renewing season tickets.
But we got started talking about the moves of the Paxson GM era and their minimal impact. We all fell in love with him at first because he built a team that lead us to the playoffs. But is making it to the 2nd round once really that awe inspiring? To point: - He's had 5 top 10 picks and 2 top 5. None are all-stars or even close - He chose Scott Skiles and Ben Wallace over Tyson Chandler. Granted we don't have CP3 to throw him the ball, but who looks better? - His big signings have been: Ben Wallace, Andres Nocioni, Scottie Pippen - His trades: Jamal Crawford for a bunch of filler, Eddy Curry for draft picks (Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah), deals for Antonio Davis and other vets - Passed up on trades for Kobe, Gasol, etc. so he didn't give up his youth - Continually drafted low ceiling/high floor guys (Hinrich, Gordon, Deng are all solid players but not All-Star talented players) - Allowed the Boylan experience to continue at the expense of developing our youth just so we could run at the playoffs...even though that would've meant a first round sweep by Boston And don't get me started on Reinsdorf. Any owner that proclaims he'd trade all of his NBA championships for one World Series ring shouldn't own a team. I think we've reached the point where we need to blow up from top down, including the ownership. |
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May 13 2008, 02:09 PM
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Rookie Group: Members Posts: 51 Joined: 27-June 06 Member No.: 171 |
End of June with the draft of Michael Beasley.
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May 13 2008, 02:29 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
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May 13 2008, 02:37 PM
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I'm fresh. Group: Administrator Posts: 1,300 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Lombard, IL Member No.: 131 |
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May 13 2008, 03:28 PM
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All-Star Group: Administrator Posts: 2,704 Joined: 14-March 06 Member No.: 43 |
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May 13 2008, 04:09 PM
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Bench Group: Members Posts: 298 Joined: 15-June 06 Member No.: 163 |
With Pax apparenty striking out in the D'Antoni sweepstakes, he needs to do something big this offseason. But first things first, they need a legitamate head coach. Does he go after Coach Izzo afterall? Maybe offer Coach K something he cant refuse? Who knows......
He does however, need to make a big splash this offseason via a trade for some star power. McGrady would be nice. He could definitley end his Postseason drought in the Eastern Conference. Maybe a combo of Arenas and Brand? Both players can opt out of their contracts and become free agents (sign and trade deals?). Who knows... he can't sit on his hands this offseason thats for sure. |
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May 13 2008, 10:41 PM
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12th Man Group: Members Posts: 115 Joined: 30-April 06 Member No.: 124 |
with reinsdorf in the background all we are gonna end up with is some assistant coach who will fail. We are lookin at another few years of horriblness. this team is going no where.
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May 14 2008, 08:16 AM
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I'm fresh. Group: Administrator Posts: 1,300 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Lombard, IL Member No.: 131 |
Let's get back on topic with the original post. I'm very glad you excluded the Ben Wallace deal as one of his trades, considering it was necessitated by his own awful signing.
Thus far, the Paxson + Reinsdorf tandem has been an utter failure. You can't place this all on Pax, who had a deal for Gasol in place that was nixed by Reinsdorf's cheap pockets, and I am certain that had a solid offer been made to Pax to land Kobe, he would have taken it. Unfortunately, LA was unwilling to give into Kobe's demands, and look where that got them! I think sports ownership has passed by Reinsdorf. He's living in an 80s/09s mentality that loyalty actually still matters. In all fairness, Ozzie Guillen, he of the colorful rants and poor team performance, should be canned. The same can go for Kenny Williams, the architect of the worst offense in the Majors. Their seats aren't even considered hot right now. The same can be said for Paxson. The list above was a good one. 5 top 10 picks, 2 top 5 picks, no stars. Sure, the Bulls have been unlucky to get those top 5 picks in years that there really wasn't deep talent, but nonetheless, he had the picks. Unfortunately, this team needs an overhaul unless we strike gold with a top 2 pick in the lottery. If that happens, it opens the door to make the necessary moves to build a championship contender. Either Beasley or Rose will be stars in this league. |
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May 14 2008, 10:28 AM
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Rookie Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: 11-July 06 Member No.: 210 |
The same can be said for Paxson. The list above was a good one. 5 top 10 picks, 2 top 5 picks, no stars. Sure, the Bulls have been unlucky to get those top 5 picks in years that there really wasn't deep talent, but nonetheless, he had the picks. Unfortunately, this team needs an overhaul unless we strike gold with a top 2 pick in the lottery. If that happens, it opens the door to make the necessary moves to build a championship contender. Either Beasley or Rose will be stars in this league. The sad thing is, our pick in round one will end up around a place to pick up DJ Augustin. Who just so happens to be the perfect PG for a Mike D'Antoni system. But if we don't get a top 2 pick, we're left with choices of Kevin Love, Koufus, Brook Lopez area. Another draft of limited upside guys. That depresses me even more. I agree with you that Reinsdorf needs to sell the team. Paxson would go then as well. |
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May 14 2008, 04:54 PM
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Rookie Group: Members Posts: 51 Joined: 27-June 06 Member No.: 171 |
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May 14 2008, 06:59 PM
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May 14 2008, 07:02 PM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 561 Joined: 14-March 06 Member No.: 41 |
This team just badly needs a shakeup, at this point there really is no player that is off limits besides Deng.
I really want Augustin but I see us ending up with Love and me being really disappointed because I just don't see how he could be a starter on the NBA level. |
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May 14 2008, 07:43 PM
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Leading Scorer Group: Members Posts: 1,285 Joined: 5-July 06 Member No.: 193 |
This team just badly needs a shakeup, at this point there really is no player that is off limits besides Deng. I really want Augustin but I see us ending up with Love and me being really disappointed because I just don't see how he could be a starter on the NBA level. No player, Deng included, should be off limits if the right deal arises. SF is our deepest position and Tyrus could easily play the SF if we trade either Deng or Nocioni. |
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May 20 2008, 06:49 PM
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10 Day Contract Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 24-April 06 Member No.: 112 |
Good things are on the way!!
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May 20 2008, 06:49 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
To answer the question...TODAY!
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