Rockets sign Asik to offer sheet, 3/$25, Rockets have not yet submitted offer sheet |
Rockets sign Asik to offer sheet, 3/$25, Rockets have not yet submitted offer sheet |
Jul 5 2012, 08:09 AM
Post
#16
|
|
All-Star Group: Administrator Posts: 2,568 Joined: 13-March 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 21 |
I'd take Boozer over Asik in a heartbeat. Seriously. Also, I have to think that whether the Bulls plan to match or not, they must give off the impression that they will...it's the only way they may work out a deal. With the other guys we have on the front line, Boozer is way more valuable as a scorer. |
|
|
Jul 5 2012, 09:46 AM
Post
#17
|
|
Bench Group: Global Moderators Posts: 326 Joined: 23-April 06 Member No.: 109 |
With the other guys we have on the front line, Boozer is way more valuable as a scorer. Exactly -- most Bulls fans seem to be under the impression that post players like Boozer are a dime a dozen...I'm not buying it. He's a very good scorer at his position. I know he shoots a lot of midrange and stuff, but he can do a little creating with the back to the basket too. Also an excellent passer and a decent rebounder. That doesn't mean that his pay is fair necessarily, but he's become quite the goat and not for reasons I entirely support. |
|
|
Jul 5 2012, 10:50 AM
Post
#18
|
|
All-Star Group: Administrator Posts: 2,704 Joined: 14-March 06 Member No.: 43 |
Exactly -- most Bulls fans seem to be under the impression that post players like Boozer are a dime a dozen...I'm not buying it. He's a very good scorer at his position. I know he shoots a lot of midrange and stuff, but he can do a little creating with the back to the basket too. Also an excellent passer and a decent rebounder. That doesn't mean that his pay is fair necessarily, but he's become quite the goat and not for reasons I entirely support. He deserves a lot of it. He's a bad defender due to his below average athleticism and he frequently is a non-factor offensively against more athletic teams (see last two playoffs). Granted you can say that about pretty much the entire roster, but most of them aren't making $15 million and supposed to be their #2 scorer. |
|
|
Jul 5 2012, 12:27 PM
Post
#19
|
|
6th Man Group: Members Posts: 585 Joined: 3-May 09 Member No.: 1,947 |
He deserves a lot of it. He's a bad defender due to his below average athleticism and he frequently is a non-factor offensively against more athletic teams (see last two playoffs). Granted you can say that about pretty much the entire roster, but most of them aren't making $15 million and supposed to be their #2 scorer. A guy like Boozer is worth around 10mil/year because of his pick&pop game to go along with his post game. I believe what Booz got a few years ago is what he cost and I'm fine with that. However, the Bulls didn't entirely know what they had with Gibson (me included) and the Bulls didn't know that Rose was going to be able to go for 30 on any given night that upcoming season. The Bulls also didn't know how elite Tibs would have made them defensively that first year. With the way the Bulls are built.......Gibson>Boozer |
|
|
Jul 5 2012, 05:01 PM
Post
#20
|
|
Bench Group: Global Moderators Posts: 232 Joined: 7-November 09 Member No.: 1,962 |
The problem is, the Bulls don't have a dynamic wing to go with Rose. If they had that, Taj would be perfect.
|
|
|
Jul 5 2012, 05:40 PM
Post
#21
|
|
6th Man Group: Members Posts: 585 Joined: 3-May 09 Member No.: 1,947 |
The problem is, the Bulls don't have a dynamic wing to go with Rose. If they had that, Taj would be perfect. I believe we all agree. I still believe Taj is a better fit to Noah/Rose than Boozer is. It isn't that Boozer isn't a quality scorer at times, but the ball just kind of dies with him. We all know how putrid he is defensively. |
|
|
Jul 5 2012, 05:43 PM
Post
#22
|
|
Bench Group: Global Moderators Posts: 232 Joined: 7-November 09 Member No.: 1,962 |
I believe we all agree. I still believe Taj is a better fit to Noah/Rose than Boozer is. It isn't that Boozer isn't a quality scorer at times, but the ball just kind of dies with him. We all know how putrid he is defensively. That's because we don't run a pick & roll or pick & pop to utilize him. |
|
|
Jul 5 2012, 09:20 PM
Post
#23
|
|
6th Man Group: Members Posts: 585 Joined: 3-May 09 Member No.: 1,947 |
That's because we don't run a pick & roll or pick & pop to utilize him. Oh I disagree heavily on that. Boozer was used heavily in the pick & roll...but he would show the pick & roll and fade to the corner more as it better served Rose. It would give Rose the option to just keep on to the bucket while help would stick to Booz. The Bulls have used Boozer's talents well offensively....he's just so limited as he's so plodding and getting him the ball on the move is such a waste. |
|
|
Jul 5 2012, 10:35 PM
Post
#24
|
|
Bench Group: Global Moderators Posts: 326 Joined: 23-April 06 Member No.: 109 |
Boozer doesn't get nearly the touches that he ought to based in part on the fact that our point guard passes significantly less than some others and the backups pass even less.
|
|
|
Jul 6 2012, 11:28 AM
Post
#25
|
|
6th Man Group: Members Posts: 585 Joined: 3-May 09 Member No.: 1,947 |
Boozer doesn't get nearly the touches that he ought to based in part on the fact that our point guard passes significantly less than some others and the backups pass even less. It also doesn't help that Booz isn't a finisher around the rim and gets his layups thrown about as much as anyone. |
|
|
Jul 6 2012, 11:36 AM
Post
#26
|
|
Leading Scorer Group: Members Posts: 1,285 Joined: 5-July 06 Member No.: 193 |
Boozer sucks. End of story. And yes it took me reading about someone defending Boozer to get me back to posting.
If Kirk signs back with the Bulls for anything more than 1 year with a team option on the 2nd I'm officially done posting until he's off the team again. |
|
|
Jul 6 2012, 03:59 PM
Post
#27
|
|
12th Man Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 1-July 06 Member No.: 183 |
Boozer is what he is, he doesnt suck nor is he really good...If it weren't for Taj I dont think you'd hear the word amnesty thrown his way as much as it has been.
|
|
|
Jul 6 2012, 09:45 PM
Post
#28
|
|
Bench Group: Global Moderators Posts: 326 Joined: 23-April 06 Member No.: 109 |
Again, good luck in your "finding a PF that will average 15-18 ppg" goals in 2012
|
|
|
Jul 6 2012, 11:33 PM
Post
#29
|
|
All-Star Group: Administrator Posts: 2,704 Joined: 14-March 06 Member No.: 43 |
|
|
|
Jul 7 2012, 07:55 AM
Post
#30
|
|
Bench Group: Global Moderators Posts: 326 Joined: 23-April 06 Member No.: 109 |
Carlos Boozer was barely a 15 PPG PF this year, and he's not likely to get better at this point. If nothing else, the lack of Rose will probably result in more shots for him and thus more points, even if less efficient. Despite his health, his minutes take a hit playing under Thibs/ahead of Taj and that's probably more of a problem for his numbers than anything else. Thibs is also allergic to playing a Booz-Taj frontcourt against smaller lineups. |
|
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 7th June 2024 - 11:38 PM |