 Gordon Says Bulls Never Made Him an Offer, Gar Foreman is a lying POS and JR should be fired |
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 Jul 2 2009, 12:15 PM
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Gordon says Bulls never offered him a deal. So much for Gar Foreman lying about him being the teams #1 priority.
"The fans that follow the game, I always felt I got a lot of love and respect," he said. "When I was walking down the street, people always showed me love. I really enjoyed that. If you were messing up, they told you. And if you were doing a good job, they told you. Coming from New York, I could really appreciate that. "As far as the organization giving me my respect, I really don't know what they thought of me. When you go through the negotiations I've gone through, the writing is kind of on the wall." This shouldn't shock any of us who have supported the Bulls for years and I am 100% on Gordon's side on this one. I'm happy he got away from the cancer that was/is Bulls management. |
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Jul 2 2009, 12:50 PM
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Man, if that is the case, that is just wrong. Top priority = no offer?
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Jul 2 2009, 12:59 PM
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How can you fire the owner?
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Jul 2 2009, 01:53 PM
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6th Man Group: Members Posts: 473 Joined: 31-August 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 256 |
Just read this in an article on ESPN Chicago. Thats just wrong, no matter how you look at it. After everything Ben did in that playoff run last year. Reinsdorf is the cheapest bastard alive!!!!
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Jul 2 2009, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 2 2009, 01:59 PM)  How can you fire the owner? Not sure. But somebody needs to find a way. We need some billionaire that actually cares to come and in buy him out. |
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Jul 2 2009, 02:18 PM
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How old is Reinsdorf?
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Jul 2 2009, 03:17 PM
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Give me a break. Ben Gordon can piss off. It was July 1st and he agreed to a deal right away. He never even gave the Bulls a chance. He spent all day in Detroit. I'm calling bullshit on this BIG TIME. If he wanted to stay in Chicago so damn bad, he would have given them a chance to match the offer. What the hell did he expect? I don't think Forman or Pax or Reinsdorf are in the wrong at all.
They knew damn well from the start that when July 1st rolled around, he'd go straight to Detroit. And he left Detroit never giving them a chance to make an offer. HE CAN'T EVEN SIGN HIS freaking CONTRACT YET! From the Bulls point of view, I'm sure they would have let him have his time in Detroit, get an offer and then the Bulls would proceed with a matching offer or a counter or something. Well, Ben went right to Detroit and said yes. So as far as I'm concerned, he can fish off. |
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Jul 2 2009, 03:40 PM
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Well, considering he turned down 2 generous offers already, I don't see how you can fault the Bulls' management. Plus, if they didn't make an offer this go around, it's probably b/c he told them what Detroit offered and they said, "see ya, Ben." Why make an offer if it's going to be less than what DET was offering? I wouldn't keep Ben around for that price unless we had gotten rid of Deng's or Hinrich's contract.
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Jul 2 2009, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (dasox24 @ Jul 2 2009, 02:40 PM) Well, considering he turned down 2 generous offers already, I don't see how you can fault the Bulls' management. Plus, if they didn't make an offer this go around, it's probably b/c he told them what Detroit offered and they said, "see ya, Ben." Why make an offer if it's going to be less than what DET was offering? I wouldn't keep Ben around for that price unless we had gotten rid of Deng's or Hinrich's contract. What's kind of remarkable though is that the Bulls got him at a major discount both of the last 2 years thanks to him turning down that first contract extension offer 2 years ago. He played for what, $5 mil each of the last 2 years, and signs his FA contract at age 26? He'll be a FA again at age 31. He could have signed 2 years ago, made more money each of the last 2 years, and been able to hit FA unrestricted 3 years from now at age 29. |
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Jul 2 2009, 04:34 PM
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The point was Forman said:
QUOTE "We like Ben; Ben's been a key, key component for us," "Our goal is to re-sign Ben. From the conversations we've had, Ben wants to remain with the Bulls." and up until he signed with Detroit, the Bulls never had ANY offer on the table. So how do you go from the biggest priority and main offseason goal, to not even tabling an offer. If this is BS, then someone from the front office should at least address it. |
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Jul 2 2009, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 2 2009, 05:17 PM) Give me a break. Ben Gordon can piss off. It was July 1st and he agreed to a deal right away. He never even gave the Bulls a chance. He spent all day in Detroit. I'm calling bullshit on this BIG TIME. If he wanted to stay in Chicago so damn bad, he would have given them a chance to match the offer. What the hell did he expect? I don't think Forman or Pax or Reinsdorf are in the wrong at all. They knew damn well from the start that when July 1st rolled around, he'd go straight to Detroit. And he left Detroit never giving them a chance to make an offer. HE CAN'T EVEN SIGN HIS freaking CONTRACT YET! From the Bulls point of view, I'm sure they would have let him have his time in Detroit, get an offer and then the Bulls would proceed with a matching offer or a counter or something. Well, Ben went right to Detroit and said yes. So as far as I'm concerned, he can fish off. I agree with you. It had been rumored before free agency started that this deal was going down. Also, he is going to be the sixth man. A role he disliked here in Chicago. I guess for $11 million per year, he would take ball boy duty as well. I enjoyed having Ben on our team, but now he is an enemy. I don't like the way he is trying to throw management under the bus. Anyway, I don't think we should have hit luxury tax territory to field a team that has no shot at a title and screw up cap space for next year's free agents. |
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Jul 2 2009, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 2 2009, 05:31 PM) What's kind of remarkable though is that the Bulls got him at a major discount both of the last 2 years thanks to him turning down that first contract extension offer 2 years ago. He played for what, $5 mil each of the last 2 years, and signs his FA contract at age 26? He'll be a FA again at age 31. He could have signed 2 years ago, made more money each of the last 2 years, and been able to hit FA unrestricted 3 years from now at age 29. I'm with you on this one, Gordon was getting greedy holding out thinking he was going to get $14 a year and that contract never materialized. So instead of taking 5/50 two years ago or 6/58 last year he messed around thinking he was getting "low-balled", then jumped at a whopping 5/55 from the Pistons. So he goes to Detroit for a whole $5 or $10 mil over the life of the contract that could have easily been made up by taking an extension instead of the qualifying offer. |
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Jul 3 2009, 03:42 PM
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The Bulls offered him 5 yrs/58.5 million several years ago and said no.
I wish BG the best in Detroit, but he's closer to a Mo Williams type player who makes around 9 million a year. |
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Jul 3 2009, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE I have seen some crazy reports across the world wide Web the past 48 hours or so. Link
I have seen Ben Gordon''s contract offer from the Pistons reported as high as $60 million. Unless there are some incentive clauses I don''t know about, the total value of the deal should fall just short of $55 million. He will start at $9 million next season. Charlie Villanueva''s deal will start at $6 million and is for $35 million over five years, not $40 million. Also, I saw a report that the Bulls never made an offer to Gordon. That is true, technically. Here''s what happened: The Pistons made their offer Wednesday and before agreeing to it, Gordon''s agent, Raymond Brothers, went back to the Bulls. Presumably, he asked if they wanted to match the offer and got an immediate answer of no. The Bulls couldn''t clear that much money. So, yes, there was no offer from Chicago, but it was given a chance to get back into the bidding. Not a big deal, but facts is facts, as they say. |
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Jul 3 2009, 10:38 PM
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Superstar Group: Administrator Posts: 3,736 Joined: 12-March 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 12 |
My top priority every day is to make a million dollars. Doesn't mean it's going to happen. People need to give this a rest.
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