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Posted by: AirScott Feb 10 2007, 01:33 PM

I was watching the second take of the GSW game at 3 a.m. last night, and when the score was 123-121 I remember having no faith the Bulls would pull through -- I just started thinking "who takes this last shot?" and not really feeling good about anybody on this team in this situation. and no, I didn't already know the outcome of the game, I fell asleep at 10:45 and woke up at 2 a.m. to look for my drunken friend, who got himself lost...aah, college life.

but if Kevin Garnett were to become available, the Bulls need to go after him, and offer the Knicks' draft choice and anybody but Tyrus Thomas, Kirk Hinrich and Luol Deng. and if that's impossible, only one of the combo of Tyrus Thomas and Luol Deng. I'd like Ben Wallace in the untouchables group, but I don't think that'd be possible.

without a true go-to guy, this team really isn't a contender. and I know this isn't news, but I'm bored, so I hope a discussion ensues.

Posted by: CryptViLL Feb 10 2007, 01:34 PM

Yup, they looked awful in the late minutes, just couldnt get anything done offensively. Im hoping they trade come feb 22

Posted by: DrunkBomber Feb 10 2007, 01:38 PM

Remember when we lost in Minnesota. Garnett didnt even take the last shot. We need a low post threat, our go to, last shot taker is Gordon.

Posted by: AirScott Feb 10 2007, 02:29 PM

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Feb 10 2007, 01:31 PM) *
Remember when we lost in Minnesota. Garnett didnt even take the last shot. We need a low post threat, our go to, last shot taker is Gordon.

I'd say if we get Garnett, Gordon is the #2 guy. actually, I'm sure of it. Garnett kind of doubles as a low post threat and a go-to. Gordon will get some final shots and maybe be more effective with KG drawing defenders.

Posted by: GreatScott82 Feb 10 2007, 02:48 PM

KG would be a perfect fit. The problem is the T-Wolves are doing pretty well this year, so there is no chance we can get him now. We can either wait until possibly this offseason to make a deal or we can make a trade this year for Pau Gasol- a low post presence that can imediately make the Bulls a conteder in the East. The problem is, what will it cost to get him? I'm hearing it may take a Gordon, Brown, Tyrus Thomas package... im not so sure i like that.
I'm also hearing a Deng, Sefolosha and Brown package. Now i might consider that one. Because we would still have Nocioni to be our starting SF and then Tyrus Thomas can back him up when needed. Should be interesing to see what Pax will do.
All as I know, as of right now the Bulls won't get passed the 2nd round with the team they currently have.

Posted by: Chisoxfn Feb 10 2007, 03:12 PM

QUOTE (AirScott @ Feb 10 2007, 11:26 AM) *
I was watching the second take of the GSW game at 3 a.m. last night, and when the score was 123-121 I remember having no faith the Bulls would pull through -- I just started thinking "who takes this last shot?" and not really feeling good about anybody on this team in this situation. and no, I didn't already know the outcome of the game, I fell asleep at 10:45 and woke up at 2 a.m. to look for my drunken friend, who got himself lost...aah, college life.

but if Kevin Garnett were to become available, the Bulls need to go after him, and offer the Knicks' draft choice and anybody but Tyrus Thomas, Kirk Hinrich and Luol Deng. and if that's impossible, only one of the combo of Tyrus Thomas and Luol Deng. I'd like Ben Wallace in the untouchables group, but I don't think that'd be possible.

without a true go-to guy, this team really isn't a contender. and I know this isn't news, but I'm bored, so I hope a discussion ensues.

Dang you...dang you...I saw this post from the front page and thought the Bulls had traded for Gasol. I was all giddy, but ya, it is evident that we need a big. The only question is whether Paxson feels we are best suited making the move now or waiting to see what is available in the draft and than making our move in the off-season (kind of sacrificing this year as yet another building year where hopefully the club gets a playoff series win and takes the next step with this off-season being where they acquire the final piece).

Posted by: Balta1701-B Feb 10 2007, 03:29 PM

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 10 2007, 01:05 PM) *
Dang you...dang you...I saw this post from the front page and thought the Bulls had traded for Gasol. I was all giddy, but ya, it is evident that we need a big. The only question is whether Paxson feels we are best suited making the move now or waiting to see what is available in the draft and than making our move in the off-season (kind of sacrificing this year as yet another building year where hopefully the club gets a playoff series win and takes the next step with this off-season being where they acquire the final piece).

I think Pax is going to wait out until the last second, but I have a real feeling he's going to do something. If he's 1/10th as smart as me, he has to realize that one of his biggest tradeable assets is PJ Brown's expiring contract, and that is an asset which disappears if we get to the summer. This year is pretty much his last chance at being able to trade for a big-named player for the next few years until Ben Wallace's contract is up, unless he wants to deal one of the young guys.

Posted by: DrunkBomber Feb 10 2007, 04:26 PM

The economics of Garnett makes no sense. Hes a great player and would fit in well with our current team of jump shooters, but the problem is, we wold have to give up like 4 of those guys. Its not worht it for one guy. Wed have to give up like Gordon or Deng, Thomas, Brown and probably a draft pick. Hes good, but he isnt worth all that.

Posted by: TeaLeafReaderII Feb 11 2007, 12:24 PM

Minnisota is not giving up KG... he is the only reason why people fill their staduim.

Posted by: AirScott Feb 11 2007, 05:08 PM

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Feb 10 2007, 02:41 PM) *
KG would be a perfect fit. The problem is the T-Wolves are doing pretty well this year, so there is no chance we can get him now. We can either wait until possibly this offseason to make a deal or we can make a trade this year for Pau Gasol- a low post presence that can imediately make the Bulls a conteder in the East. The problem is, what will it cost to get him? I'm hearing it may take a Gordon, Brown, Tyrus Thomas package... im not so sure i like that.
I'm also hearing a Deng, Sefolosha and Brown package. Now i might consider that one. Because we would still have Nocioni to be our starting SF and then Tyrus Thomas can back him up when needed. Should be interesing to see what Pax will do.
All as I know, as of right now the Bulls won't get passed the 2nd round with the team they currently have.

I wouldn't say they're doing pretty well, but as it stands the Clippers make the playoffs with a .500 record. even Gasol might just take Gordon and Brown...seems fair to me.

with KG, you never know because McHale hasn't proven all too competent. so he could trade KG, or he couldn't. I mean, I don't see it happening, but it should.

Posted by: CryptViLL Feb 11 2007, 06:17 PM

QUOTE (TeaLeafReaderII @ Feb 11 2007, 01:17 PM) *
Minnisota is not giving up KG... he is the only reason why people fill their staduim.


Yup, agreed.
It's kinda like the "Roger-Clemons" effect in basketball. The fans fill up to see him, and the owners love it.

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