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HoofHearted
Posted on: Jul 18 2007, 08:04 AM


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Long time, no post. It's pretty funny to me that people think Noc is going to be getting so little PT. Skiles will find ways to tweak our line-up, and get him on the court.


Kirk-34 Thabo-10 Curry-4
Gordon-34- Thabo-8 Noc-4 Curry-2
Deng-36 Noc-12
Smith-20 Tyrus-18 Noc-8 Noah-2
Wallace-34 Noah-9 Gray-5


We play a tall line-up with Thabo-Noc-Deng-Noah-Wallace when Skiles calls for it. Deng wont have to play so much with Noc hopefully back to full health, thus he will lose a couple of minutes.
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Posted on: Mar 23 2007, 04:27 PM


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Well, the Kinicks just signed him for 1.6 over two years. Bad move not to add this guy to our team, which needed a big who can score. Knicks strengthen their 4-5, which IMO, was already doing pretty good.
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Posted on: Nov 21 2006, 10:27 PM


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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Nov 21 2006, 10:45 PM) *
Too bad we dealt JR for nothing...


No man, didnt you know Adrian Griffin is an awesome veteran locker room presence, without him we might have a worse record than the Knicks(oh wait), and the second round has produced countless quality players. I mean, who needs a slasher who can drive to the hoop without having to chuck 20 foot lobs/prayers in the air, when we have the portrait of inconsistency and inability to score near the basket to play SG. Hey, BG, youre awesome, I love how you live and die with 20 foot jump shots because you have no other way to be effective.
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Posted on: Nov 9 2006, 10:16 PM


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It would be nice to see the 30 or so absolutely terrible, disgusting, stupid, shots our team takes every game fall down. Ball movement has been terrible so far this season, and the attempting of unnecessarily rushed/difficult shots has been abundant. Skiles needs to whoop some ass, and lock this team down.
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Posted on: Nov 9 2006, 08:05 PM


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QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Nov 9 2006, 08:56 PM) *
very ugly and boring game...



Very good way to describe us thus far.
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Posted on: Nov 9 2006, 07:55 PM


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QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Nov 9 2006, 08:40 PM) *
The refs suck so far.. Everything going the Cavs way.



Because we havent done anything. No offense to speak of, giving wide open jumpers, stupid fouls. I dont think there has been one bad call yet, but there has been a couple non calls, like Ilgauskis (sp) over the back on Kirk. It's like every first quarter thus far this season we forget how to pass and move the ball to open men.

How do you even allow an official, who had absolutely no clear view of the play, to overturn you when youre standing right in front of the action?

Move the freaking ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted on: Nov 9 2006, 07:43 PM


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As usual. Gordon= the portrait of inconsistency. Cant drive to the hoop, chucks up terrible shots, cold as ice way too much to justify his staying in the starting line-up. Just start Noc, and Deng at SG and SF and call in Ben off the bench. Seriously, I could care less about his hot streak every 5 games.
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Posted on: Oct 31 2006, 02:15 AM


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Best part of the Smith article..........


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Former Blazers guard Damon Stoudamire is telling friends that the steal of the year was the Bulls' pickup of Viktor Khryapa as a draft deal throw-in. He apparently thought Khryapa was lost in the undisciplined environment.
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Posted on: Aug 19 2006, 02:43 AM


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Very good deal, trade a player who was on the verge of being cut, or sitting on the bench 99% of the season(if he wasnt in the D-league), for a high ceiling high potential big man with above average athleticism for his size, and a nice outside game. Now we need Marty to work hard on his post offense, and hope for the best to come around in a little while. He says his game is more appropriate for a PF, which is fine with me, as that is how I like a Center to play the way the game is going towards a vague roled big man(ala Amare, Bosh, Gasol, and to a much lesser extent Bogut and Bargnani)
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Posted on: Jul 30 2006, 04:27 AM


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Yikes for sure... Very gross. Veeery Veeery gross!!! Thank God Tyrus has his head turned. Big Baby=St. Bernard.




I was very mad when we got Tyrus, but I have to admit, Im warming up to the idea of him as a PF down the road once he fills out.
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Posted on: Jul 27 2006, 01:38 AM


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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 27 2006, 02:24 AM) *
So, you're sayin PJ Brown is equal to, or at most marginally better than Sweetney on defense?


After watching how he played last season, undoubtedly yes. Definitely not enough of a difference maker there to keep Sweets scoring off the floor, was gthe basis of what I said. Theyll each have their time to shine in different spots, and like I said it will be around 20 a game for each, but I think Sweets will go out and prove he is worthy of more than the 18 he got last year. People are giving PJ WAY too much credit, especially the ones who think he's some sort of lock down post presence, please, he wasnt even that when he was still good.
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Posted on: Jul 27 2006, 12:58 AM


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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 27 2006, 01:15 AM) *
Tell that to Tyson Chandler...

PJ has been more than a "mediocre role player." The guy has career averages of 9.4 points, 8 rebounds, and about a steal and a block a game. That's a passable starter or a good bench player. I don't know where you're getting the worn down part either, he's still a competent player. Sweetney isn't going to do much more than PJ has in his career, he's just too limited in too many areas (height, athleticism, and defense chief among them).


Under ten points and 8 rebounds for a big is mediocre. No it's not even close to terrible, but it's certianly not very good. Sweets takes too much flack for his D, he gets rolled off of occasionally, but he doesnt get backed down, stays under good position near the hoop, and provides good help. Like I said his footspeed isnt what one would want in a lock down defender, but his was good(really good on O though, I wonder why it didnt translate), and with weight loss it will get better. There's not nearly as big a difference between PJ and Sweets as everyone is hyping it up to be. The added blocks and strength make up for anything you will get from PJ now. Seriously, PJ=shadow of his former average self, he's not going to be this great defensive stopper, not even close, I'll take Sweets' scoring and strength while giving up little(if anything) on the other side of the court, please.
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Posted on: Jul 27 2006, 12:14 AM


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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 27 2006, 01:01 AM) *
We'll see. I doubt it. Skiles' opinion is the one that matters, and so far he's gone away from Sweetney.


Brand new season, whole new life for everyone. Skiles isnt as stubborn to throw someone in the doghouse after they have been working hard to be your type of player. Your right though, only time will tell, but PJ=career mediocre role player, now add old and worn down to that, Sweets has the stuff to be much more than that.
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Posted on: Jul 26 2006, 11:05 PM


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QUOTE (bulls91 @ Jul 26 2006, 06:53 PM) *
and how many more minutes did brown have to be scored on more v.e. sweets? it all adds up to brown being the better Defencive presence.



Please get back to me when you can make some sense of this as pertains to what was in my quote. Where in my quote did I have any numbers about being scored on? Not to mention if that was the case with the points column(never seen points againt per on an individual player anyway), I stated those numbes where with all minutes being equal(to go with your first sentence). What here all adds up to Brown being a better defenSive presence? When Sweets was averaging more than twice as many blocks? Or was it when Sweets was pulling down more boards?

No stats arent everything, but they have A LOT to show you about the way someone is playing the game. PJ is now playing at a low producing level all around for his PT. Sweets is producing well in a limited role, and will only get better with conditioning. I can safely say, every bit more Sweets gets conditioned will show up in the form of more production for him. All signs point to him already in better shape, saying he wont put up better numbers while in better shape, while playing more minutes, after being more experienced in the league goes against every sort of logic out there. Sweets isnt a huge defensive liability as some claim, he didnt get backed down in the post, he boxes out very well on both ends of the court, he is very strong despite the claims that he is just weak a slob, and he wasnt too slow(just got tired, again the conditioning factors in). He isnt the high energy defender as one would want, but he isnt a pushover on that end of the court by any means. Everything points to Sweets being a better player, you factor in age and how much PJ has regressed, Sweets in better physical shape, and it isnt hard to see. PJ has never been more than a league average productive role player in the post, and is on his last legs, Sweets on the other hand at 13 years younger has already proved he can be just as productive while playing less minutes. It's simple really, Sweets in better shape=Sweets ability to play more minutes at a max level=Sweets producing more on both ends.
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Posted on: Jul 26 2006, 04:10 PM


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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 26 2006, 04:52 PM) *
Brown brings more to the table, even at this point in his career.


No he doesnt...

You obviously havent seen him play the last 4-5 seasons, and especially not last season. Lets just equalize their stats in 31 minutes played for the sake of proving a point here.

RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG

PJ 7.3 1.2 .61 .67 1.2 2.9 9


Sweets 9 1.5 .5 1.44 2.4 5.44 13.77



So please tell me agin how Sweets is any more of a defensive liability than an end of the road worn down PJ?


Ill just say this again so you can bookmark it or whatever, whoever thinks Sweets will play less than the 18 a game he did last year will be wrong.
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Posted on: Jul 26 2006, 03:56 PM


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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 26 2006, 04:42 PM) *
Sweetney didn't play all that much last year despite our lack of talent there. He could actually score and yet he still spent an awful lot of time on the bench. Sweetney is clearly in Skiles' doghouse, and I doubt that's changed. Now that we've upgraded our frontcourt, I don't see how he's suddenly going to play more. Brown is a better rebounder and defender, and he brings a veteran presence. He's a Skiles type of player, which is why he'll get more minutes.


He didnt play much last year because of the terrible shape he was in. Not only did Skiles hate that, but i doubt he was capable of standing out there more than 20 a game. You dont see how he's sudeenly gonna play more? How about the fact that he has dedicated himself to getting in better shape giving Skiles the option of running him out there more. Pj is nothing more than a bench contributor on a good team anymore, he is not nearly the same player anymore, especially on D where he used to be a stud. He pulled down a whole 2 boards more a game in 13 more minutes than Sweets, and blocked less shots in those 13 minutes.
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Posted on: Jul 26 2006, 03:41 PM


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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 26 2006, 12:49 PM) *
Sweetney will not get more minutes than him.



I disagree heartily on this one. Sweets pushed PJ in every stat category while playing out of shape and 13 minutes less a game. Sweets in better condition is a no brainer to me, to get the most PT at PF. Ill say this again, all of PJ athleticism is gone, he cant make up for that with savvy and heart alone. Sweets is a younger, more capable scorer than PJ, and putting him out there for 20+ a game is a must. Anyone who sees him getting less than the 18 he played last year is going to be wrong, you can quote me on that.
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Posted on: Jul 25 2006, 11:22 PM


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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 26 2006, 12:04 AM) *
post- There are only two post spots, which means there are 96 minutes to go around. 35 or so go to Wallace, around 30 to Brown, let's just say 10 for Nocioni (that might even be a little low). That only leaves 21 minutes total for Sweetney, Thomas, and whomever else we have down there.


I dont see PJ getting more than 20 minutes a game. A nice breakdown of post time to me is.......

PF
Sweetney-20
Thomas-12
Brown-18
Wallace-33
Allen-13


I'd like to see Allen more than 13 mpg this season, and really get a look at what he can do, he looked pretty good in the limited time he got down the stretch.
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Posted on: Jul 25 2006, 12:54 AM


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Hard to predict the minute sharing with all the depth we have. That almost sounds like a good thing to me, play your main guys 35 in the tough ones, the other nights we can cruise with a lockdown D team for an entire half. I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I see Allen picking up the majority of Ben's bench minutes, he could see just under 10 or so a night there. Like I said in the "starting PF" thread, we are going to have a lot of different options down low, give teams a bunch of different looks, and dictate the way they match-up against us.
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Posted on: Jul 22 2006, 05:12 PM


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I dont see us having a set starter at PF, but rather Skiles having the benefit of creating matchups every game that are favorable to us. Even the mpg is going to be skewed with the mix of players we have there. Some games Sweets will play 25 minutes and the next he may play less than 15, but Im sure Skiles will find a way to get these guys into matchups that help each use their different assets to help us win. Being able to have 5 guys at that spot who each provide a different look to the other squad is a good problem to have, and they all appear to be good team players who's main objective is to help the team win.
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Posted on: Jul 21 2006, 05:48 PM


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QUOTE (DutheDoduhon21 @ Jul 21 2006, 04:08 PM) *
i really dont think we will move chris


Neither do I. The fact that he is the epitome of everything Skiles loves in a player is enough to tell me that. His back is a real concern, though, and if we can get some real nice value out of him that helps us at PF(for the right price tag also), then I'd be all for it.
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Posted on: Jul 21 2006, 03:21 AM


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QUOTE (dasox24 @ Jul 21 2006, 12:42 AM) *
Well, I'm gonna keep this simple, and pick the team that has the advantage in the individual match-ups:

PG: Hinrich > Eric Snow
SG: Gordon <> Hughes
SF: Deng <<< LeBron
PF: Brown/Noc > Varejao
C: Wallace <> Ilgauskas
Bench: Chicago > Cleveland

I think the Bulls' bench is what puts them over the edge. According to the above match-ups:
Chicago has the better PG and PF, while Cleveland has the better SF. However, since that SF is LeBron, then he counts for 2 in the position batte. So, both team are tied at 2-2. Then, SG and C are a wash for now. So, it's still a tie. However, I think the Bulls' bench is better, and therefore, gives the Bulls a 3-2 lead.



I agree with everything here, except if Lebron is three times better than Deng, than our bench should be rated accordingly at 5 times better than Clevelands.
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Posted on: Jul 20 2006, 06:31 PM


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QUOTE (BigBen @ Jul 20 2006, 07:18 PM) *
If Smith gets rid of the attitude with Denver and pans out as a good SG, this could be Pax's first bad trade. If Smith turns into a stud SG, it will be a very horrible trade. These two 2nd rounders are a trash return unless they are used in a possible Drew Gooden trade. Then I will be happy with the move.


It is already Pax's first bad trade. It completely devalues the Chandler trade for me, because JR was the only redeemable part of the deal. Dont give me the whole second rounders got us Thabo spiff, because we also kicked in some good cash to Philly for him. By chance I saw this in the classifieds this morning, "Want young, high ceiling players? We need peanut vendors, make an offer. Seriously, we'll take anything"
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Posted on: Jul 19 2006, 02:05 AM


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No thanks to Gooden. I'll take the hard worker in Sweets for much less money any day. Gooden for ten a year is a joke, the guy has shown potential to be very good yes, but his consitency is terrible. A handful of good games a month surrounded by 10 equally craptacular efforts isnt something I would ever consider shelling out that kind of dough for. Now if he wants to get real and take a realistic paycheck I'd consider it, but that's unlikely. I'm on the record as a Sweets supporter, and I dont see a reason to give up on him for someone with such unproven consitency, all while paying the rediculous pricetag of 10 mil a season and two good pieces of depth. Yes, Sweets was also inconsistent last year while in terrible shape to play in Skiles offense, but I really want to see what he can bring to table this season with the effort he is putting into his game. I just hope Sweets is truly getting as much work done as we have heard, and comes ready to play in peak condion. I might be in the minority here, but the big guy can only get better, which will either help us through his play for us, or via trade for another piece. I also hope to high hell that Tyrus adds the bulk needed to stay at PF, because he could be VERY good there should he get bigger.
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Posted on: Jul 15 2006, 03:43 AM


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QUOTE (Bullies4Life @ Jul 15 2006, 01:03 AM)
"Guys, i have close source at the Denver Nuggets office executives.

He told me that Denver and Chicago already agreed JR Smith for Eisley + 2 futures second round. And that the trade is closed and will be announced very soon.

He also said that Pax wants a 1st round pick, badly, he tried hard, but he aceppetd Eisley and 2 second rounds.

Its a good source, i can tell, so, where's smoke...

* Maybe Pax is getting Eisley because a Duhon trade? A S&T with Cavs or somebody else? What about a big package?

its my first rumor, iam not a ballboy, iam not making history."

-Some guy posted this on REALGM... what so u guys think?

This is so funny it's not even funny. If Pax were dumb enough to trade someone with as high a star as JR smith for a 34 year old FOURTH PG, he needs to get a piss test. This trade is so atrocious that if it did go down, I will break my laptop. Come, JR is already 10 times the player Eisley ever was, and Im positive there are MUCH MUCH MUCH better offers on the table that would actually help the team. Eisley isnt even under contract with Denver. One would have to be the dumbest GM on earth to make this deal, and I trust Pax is smarter than to trade a 20 year old athletic stud, for a guy who cant even play half a season anymore.
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