he is 7'1 and he want to be traded likly would he fit on our roaster. http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/397...lla_might_bolt/

I think he would be a very nice addition to the Bulls

He would be a nice addition for the Bulls. We need some size inside.

is he the vanilla gorilla?

God no!! We dont need another Slow white guy

He's athletic but he had a bust of a season and my guess is he'll be vastly overpaid (just like Tyson is). However if he doesn't get as big of a contract as I expect, he wouldn't be too bad.

My problem is that while he's a strong defensive player (and shot blocker) he has zero low post moves and that has to be priority #1 (finding a person who can score in the low post).

Exactly. Pzybilla is a waste here.

YES!!!

he is not a waste he could improve alot i think that AD will help our young draft pick center this year and he could also help him in the process with his low post moves then he would fit the bulls.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?statsId=3408



what about those stats is at all inspiring????

Hell Othella Harrington puts up better numbers when he gets regular time.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?statsId=3091

Have you seen him play?

He's a big body, an actual defensive presence inside, and a true center. A 7'1 250 pound C is different from othella. We obviously need to get bigger.

I like him, but not if he commands too high of a price tag.

Pryzbila is a stiff. He's even less of a factor on offense than Tyson is, only he's not as good defensively and still makes about as much money. That would be a major waste of a lot of cap space.

While I wouldn't mind seeing a guy like Joel coming off the bench, it would probably cost a small fortune to sign him. He'll probably be getting near or more then Adonal Foyle ($8 million plus a year) from someone if Portland doesn't give it to him.

We need a big man who can score. period. We DO NOT need another defensive specialist on the front line. The black hole the middle is our problem this year, unless Tyson is traded, it makes zero sense to add another guy like him.

Of course. But in my mind, tyson going in the Garnett package is already a done deal.

Keep in mind, getting Garnett basically ends our chances of signing any FA this year too, given KG's monstrous deal.

I dunno. Aren't we under the cap? And trading tyson's salary would help...

Yes we are under the cap, and yes trading Tyson's contract would help. But KG is also being paid $20 million or more per season, and I believe he has a clause in his contract that kicks his salary up even more if he's traded.

agreed

I dont think we will have to worry, i dont see us acquiring garnett

Welcome aboard

yeah we would almost have to choriograph the moves so we signed Przy, and then did the trade for garnett. Otherwise he would have to sign for the midlevel exception, and i see someone offering him way more than that because of the derth of NBA centers.

Thanks you

i dont like pryzbilla, never liked him. hes a big guy though, so idk. all we have is who, schendski the rookie, and malik allen? maybe he'd be a good addition to just be on defense, but deff not offense

This team is just too small. They need to add some size. Improve the bench as well.

The big gorilla ain't even that much of a defender, actually. Yeah, he can play okay defense against opposing centers straight up, but his foot speed sucks. Little people can drive in and pretty much score at will. Really, he's nothing special. Bad investment.

Tyson Chandler is inconsistent.

yeah the Bulls need depth, but for the price that Przy will get this offseason, the Bulls can add true back ups, and protect their caproom for smart investments.

I dont know why chandler isnt producing like he should. hes 7'1'' and athletic as hell, sure hes skinny and maybe not that strong but damn... he should at least be doing something better than what hes been doing

i mean come on 5.2ppg in 27minutes? thats pathetic... im serious... if hes gonna be putting up that little of points a game, at least try to make a ben wallace effort and get the 10+rpg and 3bpg... and this year chandler cant make a FF if he tried... man

Just don't overspend for anyone.

He's leading the NBA in Rebounds-Per-Minute and Offensive-Rebounds-Per-Minute since January 21 (when he was inserted into the starting lineup). He alters shots whenever he's out on the court. He's also the last guy that should be counted on as a scoring option.

And Przybilla is like the most consistent player in the NBA, right?

Allow me to reiterate:

There ain't a 7'0+ player in the NBA who is quicker than Tyson. His defensive upside is through the roof. He is also willing to break his back for the team. He is only 23 years old, so he's 3 to 4 years away from reaching his prime.

I get tired of arguing with a sea of casual, philosophically-challenged Bulls fans, though.

Pyrzbilla is a lesser version of Tyson Chandler. He has little to no game, however he is a very good shot blocker and a solid rebounder (not near as good as Tyson though). However he has had an awful year this season as he's been so concerned about getting his big money deal.

This probably means he will get less money, but I still expect him to get ridiculous money. It also needs to be noted that Pyrzbilla does not fill our void of a low post scorer, something we DESPERATELY need.

well you ever get off of Chandlers jock Hammer?.... Right now he is not a good player no matter what way you try to twist it.

Every time you use the word "upside", god kills a bunny!

He played his way out of the starting lineup.

Face it, he's a bust. He's been given many opportunities to excel but hasn't. Six years in the league and his basketball IQ hasn't gone up...Still the same stupid mistakes, the same dumb fouls, still weak, still worthless on offense and overrated on D...

And you mentioned that there aren't any 7 footers quicker than him..I encourage you to watch this one guy on the wolves...

Funny you should also mention that he breaks his back for the team because I'm expecting his back to give out within 2 years. Add some damn muscle. Start a season in shape, please.

Mark Blount? He's the only guy on that team listed as 7'0" or over.

(Yeah, KG is 6'11").

Very few players' heights are correctly listed as it is.

The point of that part of my post was that they are extremely similar in height, but KG is quicker. Thanks for the needless nit-picking.

so then why not use him (chandler) more often then. doesnt he have the athleticy to go a full 38mpg?

im a little disappointed because we gave up brand for this scrub, and look at how brand plays. not an injury prone player, a great game night after night after night, and avg's a double double...

thats the risk i guess you take when u trade picks for picks, but brand was #1 out of duke, and chandler was #2 out of high school... should have seen it coming

hes been in the nba for 4 years now... 7-8 years in the NBA and he finally reaches his prime?? some prime hes gonna have...

Well, first point, I still think the odds were that if we hadn't traded Brand...we would very likely have lost him to FA. Hell, he tried to leave the Clippers, and they decided to keep him and Maggette over Odom.

The one thing I still say on Tyson is that i want to see what he can do when he's not the only inside presence. He's not a scorer by nature, so he's not going to be drawing fouls on the big guys from the other team, and when you put him up against a really big guy, like happened against Washington in the playoffs last year...he's going to wind up getting himself in foul trouble. He also can't get himself into the best rebounding position if he's our only post threat, he's hampered on defense by having to try to stop people from posting up when we need a 2nd guy down low, etc.

I'm going to assume that thanks to our massive abundance of picks and salary cap space, over the next 2 years we're going to have a solid low post scoring threat, or two. I think Chandler can be very useful playing in that role, but he can't do it the way this team is built right now.

If we put a 15-20 point and 7-10 rebound guy in the center spot or the PF spot, like an Aldridge or a Garnett, and Chandler still winds up having games where he's only getting 7 rebounds, starting for only half the season, etc., then I'm going to give up hope on him.

He stayed with the clippers. 'Nough said.

If we're overpaying tyson, we certainly would have offered Brand a great deal.

He stayed with the Clippers because the Clippers had enough salary cap space to match the deal that Brand was offered and Brand was only a restricted FA. That's how the Heat got their hands on Odom...they offered contracts to both of them knowing that the Clips couldn't match both.

How much cap room did the Bulls have after 01-02? That I can't say I remember.

Oh, and I just checked...Brand's deal is worth about $20 million more than Tyson's deal as well...and Brand signed his like 4 years ago, so that would have been one pretty large cap hit at the time. Again, I don't know how that would have worked with the space we had though.

Well, I just don't think you can give credit for the trade just because he might have left. It was still a horrible trade; that's a fact. And whether he would have stayed or left is really only a matter of opinion since we'll never know. To me, odds are he would have stayed.

Hey guys this is my 1st post here. I saw this site over on the realGM forums and thought i'd check it out. Pretty sweet forums. Anyway I would much rather have pax try to get us Goodon, Nene, Harrington, or Nazr because we know that they are good players and that they can score and rebound. In joel's career he has averaged 3.5PPG, 1.6BPG and 5.3RPG. Doesnt sound like the kind of guy we need. I could see him as a backup to tyson tho but not as a main big man that we need. =/

Welcome.

A pargo fan...hope you don't get teased too much for that.

And I'm really hoping for Aldridge, but I'd like to see what type of contract it would take to get Harrington.

Of course you can judge a trade based on the fact that someone "Might" have left. When you're judging a deal by say, Billy Beane, do you take into account the fact that Hudson and Mulder were likely to be departing as Free Agents within a year or two? If the Bulls judged that they weren't going to be able to resign him, then getting anything in exchange makes that a better deal than it would have been on the face.

Welcome aboard. Great to have another Bulls fan on board

As far as the names you mention, I think Gooden is the one guy taht could come here (without a hefty contract) and provide some low post scoring. He's had troubles both places he's been in his career, but Hinrich has constantly said he's a hard worker and part of me thinks he just neesd to be in the right system.

While he's not great defensively he's a big body who can score in the low post, which is more than we can say about any of our other defenders.

My issue with Harrington is that he'll likely get a near max deal by some team that overpays. Whiel I think he's a good player, It seems he isn't as good with his back to the basket and in the low post.

I'd really like the combo of Gooden, Aldridge and a guard with our 2nd 1st round pick while finding a way to keep enough cap room to offer someone a max deal next season (basically we sign that guy max, and than follow up by signing Hinrich to a long term deal).

lol Yeah i hope not not either hehe. I think The bulls have a better chance of landing Nazr or Nene better only because they would cost less than Harrington. Maybe even gooden

Apples and oranges. I don't compare the NBA and MLB like that.

Besides, this isn't a small-market team competing againt larger payrolls.

Horrible trade no matter how you try to spin it.

Supposedly, Brand's people told the Bulls that even if the Bulls offered a deal, Brand was not going to re-sign with this club. Given the sh*tty years he went through to start his career, I can't say I blame him. If he really wanted to leave, all it would take would have been him signing his qualifying offer during his restricted FA year, playing out that year, and then hitting the unrestricted market.

Doesn't matter the size of the market...if the Bulls didn't have the cap space, or if Brand wasn't going to sign no matter what...then getting something for him would have been a good move.