QUOTE (cars @ Feb 11 2008, 12:27 PM)
We should look at this from a different level than we currently are. It's more than just a pure numbers perspective in terms of scoring. So:
1. Is Ben Gordon worth a 5 year, 55-60 million dollar contract?
So we'd be paying a guy $12m a year for the following per game averages:
42% FG, 39% 3 PT, 95% FT, 20 points, 2.8 Assists, 2.25 turnovers, 3.4 Rebounds a game.
I like Ben. But he's not worth that amount of money. He's got a very, very questionable hands overall from his ball handling to turnover ability. Let's put it this way, other players in that range of money include: Rip Hamilton, Chauncy Billups, Tony Parker, Steve Nash, Richard Jefferson, Gilbert Arenas, etc. range. Is he that type of player? I don't think so.
2. Kirks play with Thabo.
This really needs to be examined more. So far (and yes, 8 games is a small sample) Thabo in the back court with Kirk makes Kirk much more worth the 11 million per year he makes. Especially since Kirk is great at moving without the ball and Thabo is a much better ball handler. Our defense is much improved as well with Thabo on the court, who is better able to defend 3 positions on the court. I would argue that Ben cannot even guard 1.
3. Potential
I think we've seen Gordon's. He's a low 20's scorer who shouldn't ever start. He's the NBA equivalent to a closer in MLB. He is what he is: A 2000's version of Vinnie Johnson. Johnsons stats are much lower, but that's more due to the era and team style than anything more. Look at his 36 minute per game stats to see what I mean. Thabo on the other hand is just starting to come into his own. Is he a 20's scorer? No. He's a 15-18 per game at most type of player. But he moves well, defends fantastic, and when he starts attacking the rim like he has he's a joy.
4. Overall Value right now
Gordon's got big value to teams in needing of scoring. We could get more in return for him than we can right now for the potential of Thabo. And since we've got holes to fill and 3 players to trade (Noc, Gordon, and Wallace), we need the help in the right area. Packaging Gordon with one of those other players can get us a much more desirable package. And I'm great with that.
Here's my responses, somewhat playing Devil's advocate.
1. Who in the NBA is going to pay Ben Gordon that kind of money this offseason? Right now, there appear to be basically 2 teams with that kind of cap space, although it could jump to 3 if Marion opts out or other teams make some deals. Those teams are the Grizzlies and the 76ers. Beyond that, to get that kind of money, Gordon would have to be moved in a sign and trade because there's just not a lot of cap room out there for people. So, given that Gordon is having a terrible season and is now struggling with injury, if he had to accept, say, a deal similar to what Nocioni got last year because no one else offers him the big money, would that change your mind?
4. Yes, Gordon has big value to teams in need of scoring. But honestly, aren't the Bulls a team in need of scoring punch? We're practically playing 4 on 5 on offense anyway when Wallace is out there, and Wallace's Replacement, Noah, isn't exactly a 25 point post up guy. Hinrich isn't a big scorer. Deng seems so far like he hasn't developed into a number one, go to scoring guy. Thabo may give us 15-18 but he's not going to take over most games with his scoring. The Bulls started off this season historically bad on offense, they're still in the lower part of the league in PPG, and they're dead last in field goal percentage. Gordon has value to teams in need of scoring, and we're one of them right now!