QUOTE (eddog2 @ May 26 2008, 04:33 PM)
This thread wasn't comparing Mayo to Beasley other than the fact that I think Mayo is more serious about his game and working on his game than Beasley is. Beasley even said that college was just a waste of time a necessary step until he gets to the NBA. Now I'm not sure what kind of time Beasley puts in to improving his game but I haven't seen anything that says he is putting the time in. When a trainer like Tim Grover and a writer like Chad Ford give you props that is a good thing, a great thing.
Mayo had more pressure on his shoulders than any player since Lebron. Maybe at times it caused him to underperform. He was inconsistent at time during his rookie season but he still put up great numbers for a freshman (especially considering Floyd was his coach). Beasley should throw up a better FG%. SF/PF's usually do post better FG%'s than PG/SG's. I think you're wrong when you say that Mayo won't contribute much else besides scoring in the NBA. I think he's going to prove a lot of people wrong and he's going to have an excellent NBA career. He shot 44.2% from the field and 40.9% from the arc in his freshman year. I think he'll improve those numbers slightly at the NBA level over the next few seasons.
I know I'm going to get a negative response or 2 from this but Mayo could end up being the best long-term pro in this draft (there is no guarantee that Rose will become the next Paul and there is no guarantee that Beasley is serious about becoming a star at the NBA level or being a leader). I've heard comparison to Gary Payton and Chauncey Billups but I think he'll have a better outside shot than either of them.
Do you really think Mayo cared about college at all? The only difference is he's smart enough to not be quoted on it. Now USC might be screwed because he supposedly took money from Guillory, that doesn't really sound like a guy that really cares about the school he plays/played for. That's a lame reason to worry anyways (think I said that before, doesn't really affect his NBA future, just ask Chris Webber), how many of the real pro prospects do you think really care about college? Beasley and Mayo both likely would have gone straight out of high school if the rules allowed it (though Mayo may have needed a year in college to improve his selfish image, which it appears he accomplished). It's basically a means to an end for these guys. Like I said, Ford was slurping several other guys as well, he merely hasn't been to Beasley's workout yet, and I personally don't consider Grover a credible source since Mayo's representitives are paying him (How often does a trainer bad mouth their client that you can think of?). Regardless, you don't get his type of inside/outside production without working. I have a really hard time seeing Mayo shoot a high percentage because he relies so heavily on his jumper and he's quite streaky. He's also not getting to the rack/line as much as you'd think, he only drew 4.6 FT a game even in college. His totals were considerably lower before he got hot towards the end of the season, and his shot selection is less than ideal. Plus the arc is a lot farther out in the pros, there's an adjustment period there for all but the most elite shooters.
I really don't see him being better than Rose or Beasley unless one of those two seriously underachieves. Sure, he has a pretty decent skill level, but he's not a freakish athlete like the other two are. That means his shooting and shot selection have to be sterling, and they really haven't been. Plus his assist to turnover ratio is awful and though he can shut down college players when he wants to he'll have to consistently bring more effort on D to be decent in the pros. I'm not saying he'll suck, I just see a fair number of issues that will probably prevent him from being more than a Joe Johnson/Jason Richardson/Jamal Crawford/Ben Gordon type that puts up good numbers on bad to decent teams. I'd actually rather have Gordon, he's a better shooter and Mayo's supposed ball-handling/defensive edges might not end up being as huge as we think (Remember that Gordon was widely considered a PG prospect as well. Money could be an issue though, in which case it's another story.). If anyone proves me to be grossly wrong in this draft it'll probably be him though.