http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/10...i062708.article
1st we don't draft CDR and instead trade for some guy who probably won't ever play in the NBA. Then Paxson makes stupid comments about how they aren't going to rush Rose into the starting role. To me that suggests that he is going to keep Kirk but I could be wrong. I'm not against keeping Kirk but if we keep him he needs to be the SG not PG. He can play PG with the 2nd unit but we have to throw Rose out there for 30+ minutes and in a starting role.
You don't draft a player # 1 overall and then not throw them out there. Especially when the only way to really learn the PG position is to play and get comfortable with yoru teammates.
Full Version: Paxson is an idiot
He's going to play, this isn't another Tyrus Thomas situation. When can you ever take anything the GM says about their plans at face value? How much crap did we hear about the Heat preferring Mayo before last night, including from Riley? Isn't it just as likely that he's not getting the kind of offers he wants for Hinrich and he's trying to convince people that he'll hang on to him for another year if they don't pony up? I wouldn't worry about it AT ALL, even if we do end up getting stuck with Hinrich on the roster for part/all of the season he'll get a bunch of minutes. Hell, Chris Duhon even got 23 minutes a game last year, and in that situation I can't see Thabo still getting 20 a game either. It's typical of Marrioti to get all excited about nothing 4 months before the games even start and write a massive article ripping people because of it, especially if it's a Reinsdorf-owned franchise.
So we were supposed to draft another guard last night when we have half of a roster of them? I lost interest right about there.
Pax is posturing for and negotiating a trade. Of course Rose will be the starter. Pax is trying to let other teams know that we don't have to trade Hinrich or whoever for their rejects.
i woulnt worry about rose not playing he will play and he will play alot of minutes, he has to he is the # 1 pick. there is no way pax keeps all of thoose gaurds he has to make a move and it will likely be hinrich. but i do disagree with him trading 3 second round pick for a guy who probably will never wear a bulls uniform, and on chad ford's report card it says we still have sonny weems, he might be a good player but he will never make the team.
Let's beach about 2nd round picks that wouldn't get any playing time anyway with our overcrowded roster. Yay! And there is no doubt in my mind Rose plays a ton. Zoom mentioned it earlier, even Hinrich played from day 1. Talk about overreacting.
There is no reason in the world why Rose shouldn't come in right away, start and averaged out to atleast 30 mpg. He's the number 1 pick in the draft, he better play, or there is going to be some angry people in Chi-Town.
QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jun 27 2008, 12:12 PM) 
So we were supposed to draft another guard last night when we have half of a roster of them? I lost interest right about there.
Yes. You take the best player available regardless of your position needs. CDR is a good scorer/shooter with good size and good athleticism. Yeah we have too many guards but that could easily change with 1 or 2 trades. Plus Gordon could very well just play his last year out and screw us over. Then we'll only have Larry Hughes for 1 more year if he isn't traded. So what do you do then? I'd much rather have a stockpile of young guards vs not having any at all.
If Gordon leaves and Kirk is traded for a big then what are we going to do? We'll have Thabo & Rose and that's about it. Then we'll be looking for a free agent. I think CDR would have fit everything Vinny is going to try to do. Not to mention he is already comfortable playing with Derrick Rose. Maybe that's the true reason they didn't draft CDR. Maybe they didn't want Derrick Rose to have a friend to hang out with in Chicago.
QUOTE (eddog2 @ Jun 27 2008, 02:30 PM)
Yes. You take the best player available regardless of your position needs. CDR is a good scorer/shooter with good size and good athleticism. Yeah we have too many guards but that could easily change with 1 or 2 trades. Plus Gordon could very well just play his last year out and screw us over. Then we'll only have Larry Hughes for 1 more year if he isn't traded. So what do you do then? I'd much rather have a stockpile of young guards vs not having any at all.
If Gordon leaves and Kirk is traded for a big then what are we going to do? We'll have Thabo & Rose and that's about it. Then we'll be looking for a free agent. I think CDR would have fit everything Vinny is going to try to do. Not to mention he is already comfortable playing with Derrick Rose. Maybe that's the true reason they didn't draft CDR. Maybe they didn't want Derrick Rose to have a friend to hang out with in Chicago.
If Gordon leaves and Kirk is traded for a big then what are we going to do? We'll have Thabo & Rose and that's about it. Then we'll be looking for a free agent. I think CDR would have fit everything Vinny is going to try to do. Not to mention he is already comfortable playing with Derrick Rose. Maybe that's the true reason they didn't draft CDR. Maybe they didn't want Derrick Rose to have a friend to hang out with in Chicago.
That is just ridiculous. You need to pick a set of logic and stick with it. You throw a fit about Rose maybe not playing too much in favor of other players, but then when it comes to Roberts you make up a whole set of logic of how he could play if all of these players leave in front of him... Let me just tell you that if all of those players leave Chicago, Rose isn't going to be play small minutes anymore. And the whole point of getting Asik was to do EXACTLY what you just said, and take the best player available. This is a kid who some have had graded higher than the #6 pick in the draft. I'd call that taking the best player available.
Not to mention the whole idea of the Bulls not drafting someone because they don't want their #1 pick and future of the franchise to have a friend around having any bearing in logic or reality is just laughable. I'm sure a bunch of guys in charge of a half a billion dollar franchise got together and tried to figure out how to screw over their next meal ticket. Think about how that sounds for just a minute.
QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Jun 27 2008, 10:49 AM)
There is no reason in the world why Rose shouldn't come in right away, start and averaged out to atleast 30 mpg. He's the number 1 pick in the draft, he better play, or there is going to be some angry people in Chi-Town.
CP3 averaged 36 both of his first 2 seasons. I might well be complaining about where he is if Pooh only pulls in 30 mpg.
QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jun 27 2008, 02:46 PM)
That is just ridiculous. You need to pick a set of logic and stick with it. You throw a fit about Rose maybe not playing too much in favor of other players, but then when it comes to Roberts you make up a whole set of logic of how he could play if all of these players leave in front of him... Let me just tell you that if all of those players leave Chicago, Rose isn't going to be play small minutes anymore. And the whole point of getting Asik was to do EXACTLY what you just said, and take the best player available. This is a kid who some have had graded higher than the #6 pick in the draft. I'd call that taking the best player available.
Not to mention the whole idea of the Bulls not drafting someone because they don't want their #1 pick and future of the franchise to have a friend around having any bearing in logic or reality is just laughable. I'm sure a bunch of guys in charge of a half a billion dollar franchise got together and tried to figure out how to screw over their next meal ticket. Think about how that sounds for just a minute.
Not to mention the whole idea of the Bulls not drafting someone because they don't want their #1 pick and future of the franchise to have a friend around having any bearing in logic or reality is just laughable. I'm sure a bunch of guys in charge of a half a billion dollar franchise got together and tried to figure out how to screw over their next meal ticket. Think about how that sounds for just a minute.
First of all your the one busting your ass to break down my post into something ridiculous when it simply isn't that. Quit changing what I say b/c you can't comprehend it. CDR isn't a PG and won't be taking any of Rose's minutes b/c Rose shouldn't be playing SG with the bulk of SG's that we have. Kirk on the other hand is a PG and will be taking Rose's minutes if he stays. We need a backup PG (which Thabo may or may not be good at) and Rose as the starter. CDR is the long term fix as a backup SG unelss he really blossoms then he is a potential starting SG. But either way that's going to be 2-3 years down the road.
I hope Kirk is going to get traded b/c he simply makes too much $ to be a backup. We'd then have him Hughes & Nocioni potentially as bench players making starters $. Like I said in my last post. Gordon could be 1 and done. If he doesn't re-sign this summer then why give him big time mintues during the season b/c you have to figure if he doens't sign an extension then he is going to leave. At that point you have no option but to trade him and the only teams that will likely be willing to take him without an extension are teams making playoff pushes that need a SG.
Gordon & Deng could very well re-sign but if they do that's great. You then have too many SG's and you have to make a trade. It wouldn't be hard to trade him for a future pick if that was our last resort. Hughes will be gong in 2 years (likely before the trade deadline of the 2009-10 season b/c of his expiring contract) so we could easily be down to 2 SG's one of which can play some PG mintues (Thabo). I feel confident that CDR can also play a little at SF.
But then again I'm the idiot. I'd rather give up 3 future 2nd round picks to get some guy who is already 22 and from the video doesn't seem to be that good of a player. Not to mention he won't be coming for at least 3-5 years if ever. Maybe 3-5 years from now I'll think otherwise but right now I just think this was a horrible move by Paxson. But in 3-5 years nobody will even care unless of course CDR turns into a good/great player. CDR proved he could play on one of the best teams in the nation. This big stiff from overseas hasn't even proved he can play against other big stiffs in Europe yet alone NBA big men. He better start eating his Wheaties b/c he needs to at about 50 pounds of muscle. As for player ratings you can tell Hollinger to shove those ratings up his ass. They don't mean spiff to me. Now if we would have made that deal to move up for someone with loads of potential like Serge Ibaka, Darrell Arthur, or to a lesser extent even DeAndre Jordan then maybe I'd agree with you that Paxson knows what he is doing and even if none of them turns out to be a good NBA player I would still be ok with taking the risk.
As for Paxson trading 2nd round picks, I'll say it again. It doesn't matter if he trades 2nd round picks b/c he never uses them to get anything good (Chris Duhon being the only exception if you can call Duhon good). But then again, maybe I'm still bitter that we traded Tyson Chandler for PJ Brown, and 2 second round picks.
I personally like the move for Asik. CDR is no better than what we have in Thabo, so who cares about him? Asik gives us a legit center prospect who could easily do what Andris Biedrins does in the League.
If anyone gets any sort of information on this Asik kid, that be great. I heard he has a amazing motor and is a tenacious rebounder, but is a little on the thin side for your prototypical NBA Center.
And btw, Soxfan1, I think your putting my Derrick Rose sig to shame hahaha
And btw, Soxfan1, I think your putting my Derrick Rose sig to shame hahaha
It just boggles my mind that everyone is so excited right now for a kid from home. It appears that they are appointing DR the savior of this city and team and that is a lot to ask of a kid. I would have preferred Beasley over Rose as I think Beasley is a beast and we need someone of his caliber. With a gluton of guards it will interesting to see what happens with this team. I just look at it that with a no-name coach, and a home town savior, this season is going to be very interesting.
QUOTE (ChitownMan @ Jun 27 2008, 03:42 PM)
It just boggles my mind that everyone is so excited right now for a kid from home. It appears that they are appointing DR the savior of this city and team and that is a lot to ask of a kid. I would have preferred Beasley over Rose as I think Beasley is a beast and we need someone of his caliber. With a gluton of guards it will interesting to see what happens with this team. I just look at it that with a no-name coach, and a home town savior, this season is going to be very interesting.
If you're expecting a title this season, you're going to be disappointed unless we trade Rose right now.
It is not that I am expecting a title in 2009, it is just wanting to have a decent and respectable season. If you look at the moves that Pax has been making since the end of season, it just seems that this team in going downhill fast and not getting any better any time soon. Think about it, Derrick Rose is a hometown kid who the hometown team is looking to save this franchise. The franchise is putting a lot of pressure on this kid to be the newest phenomenon to this city and expectations will be far too steep for Derrick to live up to. It is the same scenario that Jarrett Payton would have gone through if he would have been drafted by the Bears. Unheard of expectations for an icon of this city. Not a good combination at this point.
That is the point that I am doing my best to express here Balta, not that I am expecting a chamopionship in 2008-09. Plus the hiring of Vinnie Del Negro is shocking at best. Del Negro was not much of a player and now he is a head coach with no experience anywhere coaching. Not a good combination in my book.
That is the point that I am doing my best to express here Balta, not that I am expecting a chamopionship in 2008-09. Plus the hiring of Vinnie Del Negro is shocking at best. Del Negro was not much of a player and now he is a head coach with no experience anywhere coaching. Not a good combination in my book.
QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jun 27 2008, 07:15 PM)
If you're expecting a title this season, you're going to be disappointed unless we trade Rose right now.
QUOTE (ChitownMan @ Jun 27 2008, 09:44 PM)
It is the same scenario that Jarrett Payton would have gone through if he would have been drafted by the Bears. Unheard of expectations for an icon of this city. Not a good combination at this point.
That's a terrible comparison. Payton went undrafted, Rose was going to be the #1 or #2 pick in the draft no matter who was making the selection.
QUOTE (ChitownMan @ Jun 27 2008, 07:44 PM)
That is the point that I am doing my best to express here Balta, not that I am expecting a chamopionship in 2008-09. Plus the hiring of Vinnie Del Negro is shocking at best. Del Negro was not much of a player and now he is a head coach with no experience anywhere coaching. Not a good combination in my book.
Is there a great correlation between a player's performance in the NBA and his ability to be a coach?
QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jun 27 2008, 10:20 PM)
Is there a great correlation between a player's performance in the NBA and his ability to be a coach?
Lawrence Frank says "no"
QUOTE (ChitownMan @ Jun 27 2008, 09:44 PM)
It is not that I am expecting a title in 2009, it is just wanting to have a decent and respectable season. If you look at the moves that Pax has been making since the end of season, it just seems that this team in going downhill fast and not getting any better any time soon. Think about it, Derrick Rose is a hometown kid who the hometown team is looking to save this franchise. The franchise is putting a lot of pressure on this kid to be the newest phenomenon to this city and expectations will be far too steep for Derrick to live up to. It is the same scenario that Jarrett Payton would have gone through if he would have been drafted by the Bears. Unheard of expectations for an icon of this city. Not a good combination at this point.
That is the point that I am doing my best to express here Balta, not that I am expecting a chamopionship in 2008-09. Plus the hiring of Vinnie Del Negro is shocking at best. Del Negro was not much of a player and now he is a head coach with no experience anywhere coaching. Not a good combination in my book.
That is the point that I am doing my best to express here Balta, not that I am expecting a chamopionship in 2008-09. Plus the hiring of Vinnie Del Negro is shocking at best. Del Negro was not much of a player and now he is a head coach with no experience anywhere coaching. Not a good combination in my book.
Derrick Rose seems to be fine with the pressure. He came out with a bolder statement and bolder expectations then any of us put on him. He said he wants to be the MVP next year and wants to get to the elite superstar level sometime over the next 5 years. Those were his words and I'm hoping he delivers.
How quickly will Derrick be slammed when he does not deliver on what he wants within the first five years of his career? He unfortunately is adding to the pressure that he will be having to deal with by being a hometown product. Once Derrick does not deliver he will be crucified by most Bulls fans as being not what he is being billed as aka The Savior and most everyone will be wanting him moved for hopefully something better. I just hope that Derrick is able to prove me wrong on this aspect and being is Chicago it will be extremely difficult.
In regards to whether a journeyman player is able to be a decent coach is not completely known by me off the top of my head. I just felt that Del Negro was far too much of a reach for this team and do not think he will be that successful. I personally see the re-incarnation of Tim Floyd running this team once again. I again hope the Vinnie is able to prove me wrong however, lack of experience to any degree in coaching continues to be detrimental to any pro franchise.
In regards to whether a journeyman player is able to be a decent coach is not completely known by me off the top of my head. I just felt that Del Negro was far too much of a reach for this team and do not think he will be that successful. I personally see the re-incarnation of Tim Floyd running this team once again. I again hope the Vinnie is able to prove me wrong however, lack of experience to any degree in coaching continues to be detrimental to any pro franchise.
QUOTE (eddog2 @ Jun 27 2008, 08:48 AM)
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/10...i062708.article
1st we don't draft CDR and instead trade for some guy who probably won't ever play in the NBA. Then Paxson makes stupid comments about how they aren't going to rush Rose into the starting role. To me that suggests that he is going to keep Kirk but I could be wrong. I'm not against keeping Kirk but if we keep him he needs to be the SG not PG. He can play PG with the 2nd unit but we have to throw Rose out there for 30+ minutes and in a starting role.
You don't draft a player # 1 overall and then not throw them out there. Especially when the only way to really learn the PG position is to play and get comfortable with yoru teammates.
1st we don't draft CDR and instead trade for some guy who probably won't ever play in the NBA. Then Paxson makes stupid comments about how they aren't going to rush Rose into the starting role. To me that suggests that he is going to keep Kirk but I could be wrong. I'm not against keeping Kirk but if we keep him he needs to be the SG not PG. He can play PG with the 2nd unit but we have to throw Rose out there for 30+ minutes and in a starting role.
You don't draft a player # 1 overall and then not throw them out there. Especially when the only way to really learn the PG position is to play and get comfortable with yoru teammates.
I think Paxson is saying the right thing in the sense that the Bulls won't put ridiculous expectations on Rose right away. Long term, he's expected to be the face of the franchise and a total play-maker, but in year one its going to be a matter of developing him and I think that means he'll get the starting job but nothing will be handed to him (he'll earn it too). It also gives the Bulls more leverage in the sense that they could tell other teams that they don't have to trade Kirk or whomever.
In regards to passing on CDR, I say excellent. I realize CDR slid down and would have been a solid value pick but I'm much more happy with Asik who is a talented defensive center who should be a difference maker at the defensive end in a couple years. The Bulls don't have any open roster spots anyway so getting a guy at this value (he's a lotto pick or a borderline lotto pick) and holding him in another professional league for two years is actually a big plus (as it gives the Bulls time to get Tyrus/Noah developed and than bring in this guy to be the 3rd key piece down low).
http://www.talkchicagosports.com/blog/?p=108
Here's a bit more on my take regarding Rose, from the TCSN Blog:
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Despite numerous rumors, the top of the draft went as planned with the Bulls passing on a pure scorer (Michael Beasley) and going for a pure playmaker in Derrick Rose. In fact, Paxson really didn’t hide his cards at all as prior to the draft. It didn’t take an expert to read between the lines that Pax wanted a guy that would make everyone on the court better (Rose) and in the 2nd round had hinted at going with a Euro-Project (Omer Asik).
Upon being selected, Rose immediately became the most talented point guard in franchise history. The only poing guard you could make a case for being mor talented than Rose would be Jay Williams, who also possessed game-changing ability but unfortunately suffered a career ending injury in a motorcyle accident.
While Rose has already garnered numerous comparisons to Jason Kidd, Deron Williams, and Chris Paul Bulls fans have to remember the development of all of those individuals (including Jay Williams). Deron Williams and Jason Kidd were not stars in there first year. Chris Paul was able to make a significant impact but he is a very unique talent who had additional college experience.
John Paxson and Del Negro have both made comments similar to the above, but regardless of the immediate impact Rose makes expect to see him get lots of playing time throughout the season. The Bulls obviously have a goal of winning, but a more important goal has to be the development of Derrick Rose, with whom the hopes and development of the rest of the franchise hinders. The Bulls are hoping Rose will be able to utilize the athletism of the two young bigs Joakim Noah and Tyrus Thomas and help turn them into quality NBA players (think a more raw version Chris Paul & Tyson Chandler).
With the importance of Rose getting minutes, Paxson’s next task will be freeing up the logjam of guards, which includes Thabo Sefolosha, Larry Hughes, Kirk Hinrich, and Ben Gordon (along with Rose). Most around Chicago believe Hinrich is the most likely to be moved, but if the franchise plans on winning Hinrich could be a good guy to keep around. He’s a strong defensive player whose trade value is down after a dissapointing 07-08 season and can be an asset as a floor leader alongside Rose. The Bulls could utilize Hinrich as the back-up point (which the club needs) as well as have him get minutes at the 2, where I expect Thabo Sefolosha to get the bulk of the minutes. Obviously these are my thoughts and would make Larry Hughes and Ben Gordon the odd men out. Gordon should garnish good trade value while Hughes large contract makes him tough to move this season, which makes me believe Gordon is the guy that will be gone in Chicago (Hughes will play the 1/2/3 positions off the bench).
Sleeper:
ESPN’s Chad Ford gave rave reviews over Paxson’s 2nd round pick, Omer Asik, a center who plays in the Turkish league. Asik has two years remaining on his current contract, which does not possess a buy-out clause and would have been considered a “lottery” pick had he been eligible to play in the NBA this season. Paxson has enough young talent on the current roster that no second round pick would have played here anyway, so he was able to utilize this years pick to potentially give the franchise a game changing defensive center in a couple years. Asik is considered raw offensively, but possesses good length and above average athletism and is already considered a plus defensive player who is a tremendous shot-blocker.
No More Comebacks:
JJ Reddick, a teammate of Jay Williams, has spent the summer practicing with the former Bulls #1 draft pick (2nd overall) and has indicated that Williams is healthy and playing well. However, Williams told reporters that he is happy and no longer has the drive to play professionally and is not going to attempt another comeback.
Upon being selected, Rose immediately became the most talented point guard in franchise history. The only poing guard you could make a case for being mor talented than Rose would be Jay Williams, who also possessed game-changing ability but unfortunately suffered a career ending injury in a motorcyle accident.
While Rose has already garnered numerous comparisons to Jason Kidd, Deron Williams, and Chris Paul Bulls fans have to remember the development of all of those individuals (including Jay Williams). Deron Williams and Jason Kidd were not stars in there first year. Chris Paul was able to make a significant impact but he is a very unique talent who had additional college experience.
John Paxson and Del Negro have both made comments similar to the above, but regardless of the immediate impact Rose makes expect to see him get lots of playing time throughout the season. The Bulls obviously have a goal of winning, but a more important goal has to be the development of Derrick Rose, with whom the hopes and development of the rest of the franchise hinders. The Bulls are hoping Rose will be able to utilize the athletism of the two young bigs Joakim Noah and Tyrus Thomas and help turn them into quality NBA players (think a more raw version Chris Paul & Tyson Chandler).
With the importance of Rose getting minutes, Paxson’s next task will be freeing up the logjam of guards, which includes Thabo Sefolosha, Larry Hughes, Kirk Hinrich, and Ben Gordon (along with Rose). Most around Chicago believe Hinrich is the most likely to be moved, but if the franchise plans on winning Hinrich could be a good guy to keep around. He’s a strong defensive player whose trade value is down after a dissapointing 07-08 season and can be an asset as a floor leader alongside Rose. The Bulls could utilize Hinrich as the back-up point (which the club needs) as well as have him get minutes at the 2, where I expect Thabo Sefolosha to get the bulk of the minutes. Obviously these are my thoughts and would make Larry Hughes and Ben Gordon the odd men out. Gordon should garnish good trade value while Hughes large contract makes him tough to move this season, which makes me believe Gordon is the guy that will be gone in Chicago (Hughes will play the 1/2/3 positions off the bench).
Sleeper:
ESPN’s Chad Ford gave rave reviews over Paxson’s 2nd round pick, Omer Asik, a center who plays in the Turkish league. Asik has two years remaining on his current contract, which does not possess a buy-out clause and would have been considered a “lottery” pick had he been eligible to play in the NBA this season. Paxson has enough young talent on the current roster that no second round pick would have played here anyway, so he was able to utilize this years pick to potentially give the franchise a game changing defensive center in a couple years. Asik is considered raw offensively, but possesses good length and above average athletism and is already considered a plus defensive player who is a tremendous shot-blocker.
No More Comebacks:
JJ Reddick, a teammate of Jay Williams, has spent the summer practicing with the former Bulls #1 draft pick (2nd overall) and has indicated that Williams is healthy and playing well. However, Williams told reporters that he is happy and no longer has the drive to play professionally and is not going to attempt another comeback.
QUOTE (steve9347 @ Jun 27 2008, 02:12 PM)
I personally like the move for Asik. CDR is no better than what we have in Thabo, so who cares about him? Asik gives us a legit center prospect who could easily do what Andris Biedrins does in the League.
I disagree, Thabo has the ability to turn into a pretty damn good guard. He's surprisingly quick and has a very nice smooth game and his jumper keeps getting better. Defensively he's tremendous. People really under-value Sef, imo.
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 29 2008, 08:57 PM)
I disagree, Thabo has the ability to turn into a pretty damn good guard. He's surprisingly quick and has a very nice smooth game and his jumper keeps getting better. Defensively he's tremendous. People really under-value Sef, imo.
I think you mis-read his post...
QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 29 2008, 08:38 PM)
I think you mis-read his post...
Didn't he compare CDR to Sef? I'm saying CDR won't be anything more than a role player while Sef has the ability to be "something".
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 30 2008, 10:57 AM)
Didn't he compare CDR to Sef? I'm saying CDR won't be anything more than a role player while Sef has the ability to be "something".
His comment was that CDR isn't better than Thabo so it's not worth getting excited about.
QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 30 2008, 09:05 AM)
His comment was that CDR isn't better than Thabo so it's not worth getting excited about.
Ya, I saw that, but I was thinking he acted as if they are similar players and since the Bulls already have one they didn't need another. Aside from that I agree with him because I like the Asik selection.
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