http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-t...o&type=lgns


This is fantastic news.

We better get this done.

Wow either deal seems good to me. I'm not a big fan of Flip Murray though, all he does is chuck shots all day long. I'd rather do the deal with Portland but it'd be even nicer if we could somehow get Rudy Fernandez instead.

One good thing to note; TT has a higher salary this year than either of the 2 possible proposed deals, so neither of them would knock the Bulls into Tax Territory this year.

Rudy Fernandez is a cap hit of $1.2 million for next year. May not sound like a whole lot, but it could easily be the difference between a max contract and $1 million below a max contract offer. Ditto goes for any draft holds also.

But since Portland has always liked Kirk we can throw in Kirk/Tyrus for some of their expirings and Rudy. Then we have a very nice bench scorer or starter for us at the SG position while also clearing up a ton of cap space. I think for the Blazers would bite if we didn't ask for too much in return.

Any trade where we are getting a first round pick should be highly considered.

That seems like a bargain, especially if it is coupled with another player.

Don't forget, not every rumor out there is going to be genuine. The Bulls have plenty of motivation to leak "rumors" about a high deal that some other team is offering to try to drum up interest.

Well, looks like we got that pick, and didn't have to give up Hinrich to get it. Posted in another thread about that but another possible silver lining is the thought of getting consecutive first round picks... gotta love when that happens.

Once again the Bulls pretended that they had interest in moving Hinrich but at the end of the day he's still a Bull and is still clogging up $9M in valuable cap space.

The $20M we have is enough to get a top free agent if they want to come but that's a big if. Having $29M would have been better for the Bulls b/c then we could have afforded to add two free agents like Bosh and Joe Johnson. Now we'll probably only be able to afford one or the other and we'll probably have to overpay just to have the one.

I'm glad we got a 1st round pick for Tyrus but the Bulls management has done a poor job of managing the roster. A couple of years ago we could have had Gasol for Deng & Gordon. I can't imagine what we could have had for Gordon/Tyrus or Gordon/Deng/Tyrus but I'm sure whatever it is it would have been very very nice. Instead we are stuck and have to hope that Wade or another top free agent thinks Rose is enough to get him a title.

I pray that it all works out but my point is that instead of having to leave things up to chance our managment could have been proactive and could have made some moves that got us another star player (Melo, Kobe, Gasol, Bosh, Amare . . . ) instead of letting B.G. go for nothing and then trading Tyrus for a 2012 first round protected pick.

If we end up not getting one of the top free agents next year I am sure management will be okay pocketing a good chunck of the $20M they reduced under the cap.

Frankly, after seeing how the last few seasons evolved...a Gasol for Deng + Gordon deal a couple years ago would really have hurt the Bulls.

Derrick Rose is the ONLY reason I'm forgiving of all the Bulls' front office's screw ups prior to the 2008 draft. I will only judge them on how they go from here on out. So far, it's been okay....but we'll see how this offseason goes before I make proper judgment.

4 blocks and 10 rebounds for TT so far in his first game with Charlotte. I wish him well.

i know im probably the minority on this one but im glad be kept kirk. Hes a great captain for the team and does all the little things right. obviously it would have been nice to move his contract but i really think he is the glue of the team.

I also like Hinrich. I just wish he was scoring 4-5 more points a game and that he was making less money haha. But like you said, he does a lot of the little things right.

Oh and TT 9 points, 12 boards, 6 blocks. Good for him.

Even if the Bulls had moved Hinrich, I don't know that they could have legitimately had space for two max guys. They still have to fill out their roster and field a team. Check the minimum salaries here: http://www.nba.com/news/cba_minimumsalary_050804.html

They probably would have to compile a bench of undrafted rookies if they ditched Hinrich, signed 2 max players, and had a starting 5 that basically took up the whole cap.

Wow Tyrus with a huge game. Pshhht I just know he's going to prove all the doubters. He needs somebody to teach him. I don't think you could have a better coach than Larry Brown. Also I noticed he was sportin' the headband in tonights game and looks like Donatello from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in that Bobcats uniform.

Do the Bulls still ban headbands?

yup. Unless you're Ben Wallace.

He's not going to prove anything to anyone unless he's proving that he's the biggest waste of athleticism in the NBA. But by all means, go ahead and become a Bobcats fan.

Larry Brown did a great job of teaching Darko Milicic and Eddy Curry didn't he?

On the other hand, he did get a title out of Rasheed Wallace and he has the Bobcats playing like a playoff team.

Is it not alright for me to hope Tyrus does well for another team? And to hope he turns into a solid player someday?

And to answer your question, no. But has any other coach had success with them? Darko Milicic is an awful basketball player and Eddy Curry would rather eat donuts than play in the NBA. Larry Brown took that Piston team and lead them to a championship with no true superstar player. He's great with players, hell he was the only coach to ever control Allen Iverson and got them to the finals with an average roster.

Tyrus cut his on throat! Too bad...I liked him, he had alot of potential but if he doesn't get the work ethic he won't last long in Charlotte either. I hope he does.

As for Hinrich, for the life of me I don't see why the Bull want to move him. With he and Rose you have a SOLID offensive and defensive guard tandem...
even if the get Wade with his injuries you still need a player like Hinrich *if* the money allows you to keep him.

My thinking is if you wanna move someone it might be Miller after the season ends.

Miller's contract expires at the end of this season. That's why the Bulls wanted him in the first place. He's a full, unrestricted FA. The Bulls do hold his Bird rights, so re-signing him late in the offseason is also possible, if the Bulls choose to go that way.