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2nd_city_saint787
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Alex Kennedy: It sounds like Marco Belinelli and the Chicago Bulls are in advanced talks. Nothing imminent, but he may sign for the bi-annual exception. Twitter


Him and Pietrus are at the top of my list of guys I wanna see in a Bulls uni.

Whats the bi-annual exception? Is that what they got from the Korver trade?? No right?

Hinrich/Teague
Bellinelli/Rip
Deng/Butler
Boozer/Taj
Noah/??

If this bi-annual exception is different than the exception they got for Korver then they can use that to fill back up C. A guy I'd love to see fill that role is Greg Stiemsma. I'd be happy with Prizzy or Robin Lopez as well. Darko would very meh IMO but as a backup C I wouldn't be mad.
Quinarvy
I'd be fine with Bellinelli on the BAE. Leaves us the TPE from Korver.

I wish we could keep Asik, but Rockets offered him the contract. No way do I touch that.
2nd_city_saint787
QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 20 2012, 06:11 PM) *
I'd be fine with Bellinelli on the BAE. Leaves us the TPE from Korver.

I wish we could keep Asik, but Rockets offered him the contract. No way do I touch that.


There are guys like Stiemsma, Lopez, or Pryzbilla that would make me forget about Asik real quick. I really like the idea of Stiemsma working with Thibs, I think he brings the heart, hustle, and muscle that Thibs would love.

Have fun scoring on a Hinrich-Butler-Deng-Taj-Stiemsma 2nd unit (As we all know Dengs always out there)
2nd_city_saint787
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Aggrey Sam: Source confirms Marco Bellinelli's deal with the Bulls is done. Also: Bulls attempting to sign summer-leaguer Malcolm Thomas to 1-year deal. Twitter


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Aggrey Sam: Unsurprisingly, other teams after Thomas, too. Bellinelli deal apparently isn't precluding Bulls from continuing to chase FA 2G Randy Foye. Twitter


Foye AND Bellinelli??? sign me up and say bye bye to Rip!

Hinrich/Teague
Bellinelli/Foye (not sure who'd they start)
Deng/Butler
Boozer/Taj/Thomas
Noah/Naz

Add Rose to that and thats an exciting team!!

So if all this were to happen all the Bulls need is a 5th guard and I'd call it a really good offseason (considering they didn't have a lot of money to work with).
ZoomSlowik
QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jul 23 2012, 01:58 PM) *
Bellinelli/Foye (not sure who'd they start)

Add Rose to that and thats an exciting team!!

So if all this were to happen all the Bulls need is a 5th guard and I'd call it a really good offseason (considering they didn't have a lot of money to work with).


It better not be Foye, he's pretty terrible.

Bellinelli is alright, at least he can shoot.
2nd_city_saint787
QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 23 2012, 03:03 PM) *
It better not be Foye, he's pretty terrible.

Bellinelli is alright, at least he can shoot.


He started 48 games for a playoff Clippers team, he can't be too terrible. As a backup SG? he's not bad
ZoomSlowik
QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jul 23 2012, 08:47 PM) *
He started 48 games for a playoff Clippers team, he can't be too terrible. As a backup SG? he's not bad


Terrible players can get good minutes on good teams depending on how they distribute their payroll. See Keith Bogans and Joel Anthony on teams a lot better than the Clippers.

The guy is a chucker that can't guard anyone.
2nd_city_saint787
Well he's another teams fan base to bash now
eddog2
I'm somewhat excited about the moves we made to get Beli/Foye. Both are good 3 point shooters and offer us some much needed scoring punch to go along with Kirk.

I'd much rather have the backcourt rotation that we now have with the exception that I think we will miss Brewer's D. Hopefully Jimmy Butler is ready to take the next step and be a solid backup SF and hopefully Teague can play well even though he is having a bad summer league.

Quinarvy
I think Bellinelli is a slight upgrade over Korver.

Kirk-Watson is a wash.

Butler > Brewer in my mind.

Taj is Taj

Teague > JL3

Asik > Mohammad

I don't see why this is so bad...
2nd_city_saint787
QUOTE (eddog2 @ Jul 24 2012, 09:55 PM) *
I'm somewhat excited about the moves we made to get Beli/Foye. Both are good 3 point shooters and offer us some much needed scoring punch to go along with Kirk.

I'd much rather have the backcourt rotation that we now have with the exception that I think we will miss Brewer's D. Hopefully Jimmy Butler is ready to take the next step and be a solid backup SF and hopefully Teague can play well even though he is having a bad summer league.


We didn't end up getting Foye. I wonder what their intentions were with Foye, ship Rip, or 5th guard? I guess we'll get an idea when the next move is made. I do think Bell is a starting caliber player so I wouldn't be at all disappointed if they grabbed a Barbosa, Redd, or a Rush behind him and traded Rip for a pick.

After seeing Butler on Lebron, and Melo I for one think Butler may even be better or at least on par with Brewer.
2nd_city_saint787
QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 24 2012, 11:16 PM) *
I think Bellinelli is a slight upgrade over Korver.

Kirk-Watson is a wash.

Butler > Brewer in my mind.

Taj is Taj

Teague > JL3

Asik > Mohammad

I don't see why this is so bad...


My thoughts exactly, I said basically the same thing over on soxtalk.
Wanne
QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 24 2012, 10:16 PM) *
I think Bellinelli is a slight upgrade over Korver.

Kirk-Watson is a wash.

Butler > Brewer in my mind.

Taj is Taj

Teague > JL3

Asik > Mohammad

I don't see why this is so bad...



Exactly...with an *

*Asik D > Mohammad
Mohammad O > Asik

I'll miss Omer's D...not so much anything else. Also...when healthy...Kirk's D is hand's down superior to Watson.

btw...LOVE the Belinelli signing...as well as Kirk's.
Jake
Belinelli has upside and that's crucial for this deal. Korver is what Korver will be. Marco is a player that it seems likely still has room to grow and perhaps be a starting-caliber SG.

The downside is that it is a one year deal, so if he does well we may have to pay a fortune to retain him.
2nd_city_saint787
With all the SGs on the market next year I think the 1 year deal is the right thing to do.

Next years FA crop may have Harden, Ellis, Martin, Derozan, Evans, Turner, and of course Bellinelli if he fits in well here.

This years best SG was who? Courtney Lee and OJ Mayo?? Neither of whom are exactly studs.

Mayo would have been nice but he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would mesh well with Thibs. I mean this guy was sent to the bench permanently because he showed up to practice late. From what I read on Mayo he's best utilized as an iso scorer and the Bulls already have that in Rose.

Lee was part of a sign and trade so its not like the Bulls could have just signed him. Same with Mayo right?
ZoomSlowik
QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jul 26 2012, 09:40 PM) *
With all the SGs on the market next year I think the 1 year deal is the right thing to do.

Next years FA crop may have Harden, Ellis, Martin, Derozan, Evans, Turner, and of course Bellinelli if he fits in well here.

This years best SG was who? Courtney Lee and OJ Mayo?? Neither of whom are exactly studs.

Mayo would have been nice but he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would mesh well with Thibs. I mean this guy was sent to the bench permanently because he showed up to practice late. From what I read on Mayo he's best utilized as an iso scorer and the Bulls already have that in Rose.

Lee was part of a sign and trade so its not like the Bulls could have just signed him. Same with Mayo right?


Mayo has talent, is young and was relatively cheap. All of those are important for the Bulls. They had a trade exception, so they could have done a sign-and-tade at an extremely low talent cost.

They're not going to have enough cap space to get any of those shooting guards next year unless they dump a bunch of salary. Even if you amnesty Boozer, Rose/Noah/Deng adds up to $42 mil and they have to re-sign Taj. Add in Kirk, Teague, Butler and another pick and you're not remotely close to being able to offer a competitive deal.
2nd_city_saint787
QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 26 2012, 09:04 PM) *
Mayo has talent, is young and was relatively cheap. All of those are important for the Bulls. They had a trade exception, so they could have done a sign-and-tade at an extremely low talent cost.

They're not going to have enough cap space to get any of those shooting guards next year unless they dump a bunch of salary. Even if you amnesty Boozer, Rose/Noah/Deng adds up to $42 mil and they have to re-sign Taj. Add in Kirk, Teague, Butler and another pick and you're not remotely close to being able to offer a competitive deal.


Well with the 1 year contract on a young Bellinelli I'm led to believe that that has to be the plan.

Rose/Teague
FA/Kirk
Deng/Butler
Taj/ M. Thomas
Noah/Vet or rook (was Nazr a one or 2 year deal?)

How much does that team leave for a FA SG? I can see Taj taking a discount to stay here for some reason. Call me crazy but I can also see Butler playing well enough to make Deng tradeable (yes, I'm calling Butler the starter the following year).
ZoomSlowik
QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jul 26 2012, 11:03 PM) *
Well with the 1 year contract on a young Bellinelli I'm led to believe that that has to be the plan.

Rose/Teague
FA/Kirk
Deng/Butler
Taj/ M. Thomas
Noah/Vet or rook (was Nazr a one or 2 year deal?)

How much does that team leave for a FA SG? I can see Taj taking a discount to stay here for some reason. Call me crazy but I can also see Butler playing well enough to make Deng tradeable (yes, I'm calling Butler the starter the following year).


Belinelli really has very little to do with their plan or their cap space.

As I said, basically nothing. Rose/Deng/Noah/Taj/Kirk is a minimum of $48 mil, more if they have to match an early Taj offer sheet. Butler/Teague/2013 pick is another $3 million minimum, probably closer to $4 mil. That leaves at best about $7 million under the cap and they still need 5 more players. They're not remotely in a position to have any cap space.

So essentially, IF they amnesty Boozer, they'd be in the same spot: a $5 mil max offer on any player with the MLE instead of their trade exception this year.
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