This trade doesnt make any sense, another SG/SF and an OLD PF, while taking away a very good young defender and depth from the weakest spot in our rotation. Getting PJ takes away 5 points and boards a game from our post, why would we even consider this deal? Yes Smith has superstar athletic ability, but why would we ever want to make our frontcourt any weaker. Hey but It's such a financial strain to keep Tyson with our 16 million in cap space, but lets invest 16 million in the same type of one dimensional "but proven" player.

Well, PJ is an expirign contract and getting rid of Chandler frees up some more cap space. There are a few scenarios here:

1.) PJ Brown is our stop-gap PF or C.

2.) This might be a 3-way trade.

3.) This might be a precursor to another deal (KG, O'Neal).

As far as smith, I think he is probably part of the deal in case Sefolosha has trouble adjusting to the NBA right away.

Why do we need to free up more space right now?  We have 16 million to do what we need now, and we can decide what to do depending on our performance with this team.  Im sorry but giving up Tyson now is just dumb, sell high buy low, not the other way around.  WE have the cap situation to allow us to see how he works out this year, if he sucks forget him, it's not like we could do worse than PJ Brown and another SF for him.

Only logical reason I see for trading Chandler and getting rid of his contract is because they will sign or have an agreement to sign a very expensive player...

The original source of this rumor seems to be VERY reliable.

Definitely. He called Simmons with the 15th pick, he called Peja going to NO/OK, and now he's giving us this rumor. Many seem to think it's as close to done as it gets.

Seems like the driving force behind this deal would be to free up cap space down the road to resign the rest of our core.

Seems like the driving force behind this deal would be to free up cap space down the road to resign the rest of our core.

we need chandler he is a big part of our deffensive game there is no need for pj, hes old, and jr smith is just another sg or sf, there is no point of this trade

Do people forget that he is factually the most skilled and productive rebounder in the NBA?

Do people forget that he is known to make dramatic, game saving incredible blocks on "closers" like Paul Pierce?

Do people forget that he is 23 years old? (younder than Kirk, for example)

Do people forget that about half of all good big men take years in the NBA to reach their potential?

Do people forget that there are only a couple guys in the whole league that can guard the basket better than Tyson?

Do people forget that as a pencil thin 20 year old he was having 20+ pt and 20+ rebound games, against guys like Shaq in his prime?

Do people forget that Ben Wallace rebounds less frequently than Tyson but is almost a decade older and will cost twice as much, but unlike Tyson is certain to never have an offensive game?

Do people forget that Joel Przybilla is, indeed, Joel Przbilla (I actually liek him as a Chandler backup but come on he is certainly no better than Tyson)?

Do people forget that Tyson is the only real player on this team over 6'9"?

Do people remember that without Tyson playing well (as he played down the stretch this year), we are a well below .500 team?


I mean come on people, he is a limited player and makes physical mistakes but he is excellent on rebounding and altering shots, just excellent, and those qualities are very rare and we will not get a better one than him without giving uo the core. I'm not his biggest fan but it doesn't make any sense to let him go when he has proven to be integral to our success. Don't tell me you want to get rid of his salary. Why? Anyone on this board who thinks we won't pay Deng, Ben, Kirk, Noc etc because we're paying Tyson does not know this organization very well. That is the only reason to get rid of Tyson, and it's null.

we need chandler he is a big part of our deffensive game there is no need for pj, hes old, and jr smith is just another sg or sf, there is no point of this trade

Thats not the issue, but it could give us enough money to make a nice push at someone once again next year cause after that we'll be entirely capped out for a long time (especially if all goes well).

plz dont trade chandler pax, I will be very furious because he can still be that "Star" That we foresaw when we drafted him. HES ONLY 23 YEARS OLD!

This trade doesnt make any sense, another SG/SF and an OLD PF, while taking away a very good young defender and depth from the weakest spot in our rotation.  Getting PJ takes away 5 points and boards a game from our post, why would we even consider this deal?  Yes Smith has superstar athletic ability, but why would we ever want to make our frontcourt any weaker.  Hey but It's such a financial strain to keep Tyson with our 16 million in cap space, but lets invest 16 million in the same type of one dimensional "but proven" player.

we need chandler he is a big part of our deffensive game there is no need for pj, hes old, and jr smith is just another sg or sf, there is no point of this trade

I expected the Bulls deal to be finalized this weekend. I'm not sure if it will happen as scheduled or not. From what I'm hearing, another team has entered the pursuit of Chandler. I think the asking price may have gone up. Like I've said in the past, until it's done, you can't call it a slam dunk.

I will cry if Chandler is traded

As of last night, it was supposed to finalize on Sunday. Of course things can change quick. Haven't talked with anyone today, but No1's mention that another team is interested in PJ could slow and change the process. When I talked with my friend last night, he called the Chandler/Tyson for JR/PJ deal about an 85% chance of being finalized.

He's so over-rated its a joke. He got his contract and now expectations have went up (whether fair or unfair) and he didn't come even close to being a good player. He still comitts stupid foul after stupid foul and really in general is so incredibly streaky.

I have always liked his attitude, but for what we pay him, if we can get some good stuff for him and free cap space, go for it.

Chandler is one of the Top 5 best rebounders in the NBA and remember this was his first season not playing with Eddy Curry (His Best Friend) so I REALLY want to give him another chance. I think if we trade him now it will defentaley come back to haunt us! And WTF, Why are we suposeably trading him for PJ BROWN OMG The guy is 37 Years old. STUPID TRADE! PLZ DONT TRADE TYSON

I don't think Chandler is a top 5 rebounder simply because he can't stay on the court. Otherwise I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with that cause he is a very good rebounder. PJ Brown would provide leadership, but more importantly he gives the Bulls an option to be players in both this years FA class and next years FA class, which could be huge when it comes to putting the Bulls OVER the top.

Ya but we cant just GIVE Tyson away if we are going to trade him. PJ Brown will do nothing for this team. Tyson atleast did something and who knows maybe hes working on his offensive game this summer and may become a better scorer wich I think he will. Thats why I want to give him another chance. I hate this trade, it makes me sick

"The one disappointment in all this is Paxson saying the Bulls still value 7-footer Tyson Chandler, the way pigeons value roof tops. A bold move would be dumping his ridiculous salary"

The Spurs also will explore trading for a center. Milwaukee's Jamaal Magloire is on the market, Philadelphia and Chicago could entertain trades, respectively, for Samuel Dalembert and Tyson Chandler. Dalembert and Chandler would fit well with the Spurs. Both are young, run the floor well and block shots. Both, however, also have significant contracts: Dalembert has five years and $55.7million remaining; Chandler, five years and $54million.

He's so over-rated its a joke.  He got his contract and now expectations have went up (whether fair or unfair) and he didn't come even close to being a good player.  He still comitts stupid foul after stupid foul and really in general is so incredibly streaky. 

I have always liked his attitude, but for what we pay him, if we can get some good stuff for him and free cap space, go for it.

By the way the source on the Hornets board that started this also called the Bobby Jackson signing which just happend. He definitely knows something.

It took O'Neal 4 season to get it together. After his 4th season in Portland, he was traded to Indiana. Tyson is entering his 6th season. And that is a bad comparison, considering Jermaine has an offensive game.

Well, maybe I don't remember much about Jermaine when he was in Portland, so I don't know what his "game" consisted of... although how could you either when he only averaged 11.4 minutes/game in his first 4 seasons.

And don't try to spin it by using terms like 4th year and 6th year. You try to make Chandler sound worse by saying "Tyson is entering his 6th season" and O'Neal sound better by using "4th season" in describing him. That makes it sound like Tyson has taken two years longer to contribute, whereas if he were to make a big time impact this year, it would only be one year after O'Neal made his first signifant impact.

So, while Chandler has had more overall PT during his first few years in the NBA, he's also had a back injury to deal with (which basically took a year out of his development), stupid advice from his agent (to not work out over summer while trying to get a big contract, which basically made the first half of this year a wash), and other little things that have stunted his growth.

However, now he has no choice but to produce. There are no more excuses for him to make. He's out of them.


Also, I'm kinda just playing devil's advocate here b/c if we did make the Hornets trade, and then spun Brown to Detroit in a sign and trade for Wallace, followed by a signing of, let's say, Drew Gooden, I'd absolutely love that. I'm just trying to stick up for Tyson b/c I do like him.

Brand for Chandler = worst deal in Bulls history