I think if u give up BG, NOC, and the 9 pick, that's 3 prospects, and maybe u just use duhon and PJ as cap filler. Add a couple fuutre firsts instead of TT or sef....

TT is just such a unique player. I was so mad when the bulls drafted him. But he has that quality that Jordan had and Reggie had and that kobe has and that dwade has and that VC and Tmac don't. He has the killer instinct. The desire to dominate every second he's in the game. Match that up with Josh Smith's skill set and you have an Amare meets Kirilenko multi time all star and future DPOYs. He plays the style of future nba PFs, he fits perfectly into our system of generating turnovers and running the fast break. He is a turnover creating machine with blocks and steals (his ability to get into the passing lanes in amazing for a big man). Unlike some recent high picks (ahem tyson and eddy) whenever he played big minutes he put up numbers. Imagine when he actually learns to play offense instead of just relying on his athleticism. I think if Tyrus can hit the weights a bit he can be a full time pf averaging 16.5 pts, 10.5 rbs, 3.5 bpg, 2.2spg and hopefully under 4 TOs......in 2 years or less. Put him with deng and Kirk and you're almost there. Imagine having kobe too.

IMO unless you can put deng, TT, and Krich around Kobe, you dont have the right championship nucleus and u forget it....play hardball, the lakers seem to be short on options

You are really going out on a limb giving Thomas that much credit.

And I'm sorry, but when I read "But he has that quality that Jordan had and Reggie had and that kobe has" my eyes nearly popped out of my head.

Come on. Do you see the energy and desire he plays with compared to guys like eddy, tyson, or crawford. Or even guys like Tmac and VC. He tries to block ever shot, steal every pass, get every rebound. Once he learns to control himself more, he is going to be special. He's ak47's blocking with marion's length and speed and amare's athletic explosion. If he realizes his potential, he could be great. And like i said before, i hated the pick at the time. There's a reason paxson traded the exact kind of pf/c we are looking for right now. TT is special.

Anyway....I was watching some of Thabo's midrange moves and I had another thought about kobe

we should trade for him bc
1) He's the best player in the league-unlike lebron and dwade he has 3 rings
2) he's the most clutch player in the league--watch this and see if YOU could go back to watching BG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2yzNQWFYko
3) Thabo could fill in at the 3 admirably and score either in the starting lineup or off the bench
4) Kobe is probably the best defensive SG in the league. If not he's close. He and Kirk would be the best defensive backcourt in the league. And that finally solves our small backourt problem
5) It would be fun to watch kobe and kirk on Team usa together build chemistry. Maybe kobe could demand that kirk start or he'll suit up for Italy.

I think if the bulls are willing to part with Deng, we can get a deal done for Kobe...as much as I hate to say it sef can reproduce a decent % or what deng gave at sf...so maybe kirk and TT are the least replaceable bc of TT's uniqueness and the lack of good PGs in the league.

so how about Gordon, Deng, sign and trade PJ and Noce-should get u to 20 million

gives u rotation of

hinrich/duhon
Kobe/sef/Griffin
Sefolosha/griffin/Khryapa
MLE FA/TT
Wallace/#9

or how about Gordon, Deng, wallace, and a 2008 first

gives u a rotation of

Hinrich/duhon
Kobe/Sef
Noc/sef/Griffin/khryapa
TT/#9/PJ
MLE FA/#9/PJ

is that too much? Would the lakers go for either of these?

3 way trade people...

yep a 3 way deal is the only way a trade like this will ever occur. There are talks that Boston may get involved and throw Pierce in there as they will also want a piece of the Bulls core.

Example:
Bulls get: Kobe Bryant

Lakers get: Paul Pierce, Bulls 9th pick

Celtics get: Andreas Nocioni (sign and trade), Ben Gordon, and Tyrus Thomas

count me in for this one (though LA is getting shafted and Boston makes out like Bandits)

Biggest rumor

LA gets: Gilbert Arenas, Etan Thomas, Bulls #9
Bulls get: Kobe
Wizards get: PJ Brown, Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas

fine by me!

That works for me. IMO the Bulls have to make sure they keep two of Gordon, Deng and Hinrich, and if they send out Deng, they need to keep the #9 pick.

Wallace
Sweetney -Re-sign the fat bastard if we get Kobe!
Deng
Hinrich
Kobe

Bench
Thabo
Noc
Duhon
Khryapa

Notes:

If we can get Kobe in that deal we resign sweets and get his fat ass in shape.
Sweetney is our glaring weakness obviously ( Luc Longley was a glaring weakness during the dynasty but we did just fine with that)

A Kobe and Deng duo will give me flashbacks of Jordan and Pippen. ( No comparison but as close as we will ever get)

Wallace and sweets will hurt us on offense, however, but how much more do we need with Kobe,Deng, Kirk and Noc off the bench?

Kobe Upgrades our D against Bigger guards.

Unfortunately I doubt PJ brown would come back another year without a chance at a ring.

I think you have to go after gooden while dangling Nocioni... you don't acquire Kobe and then run fatass freaking sweetney out there at PF...

you dangle Noc for Gooden, should be a good swap, can probably match the salaries up, or if its a dump, deal Noc for a 2nd and move Duhon for Gooden...

Looks a lot better at

Wallace
Gooden
Deng
Kobe
Hinrich

^^ That's an East Championship right there.

Lakers have not contacted Bulls about Bryant.

Paxson says no contact.

What the fish Pax... if you want him, you make the contact.

You know what, for as great as it would be to have Kobe it sounds like the longer these talks go on the more we are giving up. No way I would want to give up our pick, BG and TT and than Duhon and whoever else as fillers. Plus, IMO, this trade wont be able to get done salary wise without the addition of Big Ben, which makes me assume thats why some of you threw Paul Pierce into this. It seems like too much to get all this done.

I personally don't believe any of this will happen, bc if it did, itd have to be after July 15th for sign-and-trades.

Lianjian or bust.

Personally, I don't think there's a chance the Lakers actually trade Kobe unless the season starts and he's sitting out games. If I'm the Lakers, I try to force Kobe to come to that, and maybe give him something like another O'Neal this summer to entice him to shut up.

5 Reasons why kobe to bulls is a long-shot

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writ...kobe/index.html

might be a little crushing to thoose who want kobe