Let's drop the Gasol talk until there is more evidence of it happening.

Paxson recently denied that he's had any discussion about a Gasol trade recently. He already denied the same thing about any KG trade.

The Bulls offered Nocioni a 5 year $38 million dollar contract (starting at around $6.3 million for the first year) and are praying that Memphis doesn't offer the 5 year $46 million. It's as simple as that. Once he's signed then maybe we can think trade.



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Obviously you like dunks and athletic, no offense players instead of championships. I imagine you think Dominique Wilkins is a better player than Michael Jordan as well.

That argument makes no sense. Maybe Harold Miner but you can't say Nique. Dominique was all offense all the time. That was the problem. Anyway, he was slightly more athletic than Jordan but Jordan was the better competitor and player. As for no offense players you can put Dominque in that category. I know you meant the championship part of it but don't discount Nique b/c he never one a title. He never had half the supporting cast that Jordan did.

You overrate Tyrus way too much.

Duhon, Noch and Noah for Gasol is a joke, no way they accept that.

Sorry, Slav, but Edwin's got ya here... stick to players that played during the course of your lifetime when talking smack! 17 year olds need not talk about Dominique Wilkins' game...

spiff, neither do I... but at least I saw him playin!

It was a comparison off the top of my head. And I did see Wilkins play towards the end of his career. Not in his prime though, that I remember at least. Take "no-offense" out and it's a very fair comparison.

But worded that way, he's right, not a great comparison. Harold Miner is a much better comparison, agreed. Either way, I was basing the it off of the championships and reliance of athleticism towards their scoring.

But all that's beside the fact. You trade, essentially, 3 bench players for Pau Gasol. I don't know how many GM's wouldn't deal Noah/Tyrus/Noc for Pau Gasol, but I'm going out on a limb and saying not many. But then again, the armchair GM's here would definitely keep the ever athletic youngsters.

You really underestimate the ceilings of both Noah and Thomas. You don't get to be a top 10 pick in the NBA for no reason. There is something there for both of these guys. As raw as they are, it might not happen overnight, but it didn't for Chandler and Curry either.

I don't think he's doing that as much as he knows how HUGE an impact Gasol can have on this roster. Instead of waiting 3 years and hoping Tyrus and Noah turn out well you can add an elite big man that's still pretty young. It's choosing the known over the unknown. MAYBE in 2 or 3 years Tyrus is the next Josh Smith/Shawn Marion and Noah is the next Tyson, but you just don't know what you're going to get from them.

You have a team that's already pretty good, and you could potentially trade 3 non-essential players for a good, young big man that could very well put you over the top. You gotta do that in a heartbeat if Memphis is dumb enough to take that package. The only way that deal REALLY blows up in your face is if BOTH Thomas and Noah turn into stars and you get one $14 mil star instead of 2 or 3 cheap years from those guys before the extension. That's pretty unlikely though, especially since it looks like Tyrus still has a long way to go and Noah has looked pretty limited at times in college. Even if one of them blows up it's not all that bad because you still have your All-Star big man, I really think you can live with that risk when you're getting a player of Gasol's caliber.

Zoom, I know where your coming from, I really do. However, if it is Tyrus, Nocioni and Noah I'd be real hesitant before pulling that trade.

I'd have no problem doing it if Paxson and the Bull guaranteed that they'd pay Gordon & Deng enough to keep both in town. However, my concern is that once we get Gasol we'd lose one of those players b/c i'm not sure the Bulls want to significantly go over the cap.

If we get Gasol, we have to keep Gordon. That's a must. You need that player to stretch defenses and allow Gasol to work down low. Plus, Gordon is going to be so much better if we get Gasol.

If it's a sure thing that we re-sign both Deng and Gordon, I think we'd be stupid not to do it, win 2 or 3 championships and then figure out what to do once Wallace leaves. The long term success of the team might be put in jeopardy but the short term (next 2-3 years) would look great.

I'd be sad, very sad, to see Tyrus go, but you are right. We have no idea whether or not he will develop into Marion/Amare/Smith or anyone else. He's got a good chance to develop into a Smith type player but offensively he's got a long way to go to be Amare or Marion.