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soxfan3530
post Oct 30 2007, 10:45 AM
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Today they are talking about a Gordon/Noah/Thomas plus a draft pick deal. Im not even sure that would work unless maybe they sign Gordon to an extension before the trade. Anyway, if that really is the case i would do it. Even though it means trading our two young big men. You would still have a nice starting five:

PG: hinrich
SG: kobe
SF: deng
PF: smith/nocioni
C: wallace
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post Oct 30 2007, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Oct 30 2007, 11:54 AM) *
Today they are talking about a Gordon/Noah/Thomas plus a draft pick deal. Im not even sure that would work unless maybe they sign Gordon to an extension before the trade. Anyway, if that really is the case i would do it. Even though it means trading our two young big men. You would still have a nice starting five:

PG: hinrich
SG: kobe
SF: deng
PF: smith/nocioni
C: wallace


It sounds like a deal would be impossible if they signed either Deng or Gordon (if they were in the final trade) to an extension before the trade.
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post Oct 30 2007, 03:09 PM
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Don't forget we still have PJ Brown's contract which isn't up until after October 31. I forgot about that until I saw it on another forum. We would do a sign and trade and we would be able to match salaries easier to finish off a trade. So I guess it makes since that this deal could get done by tomorrow.
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post Oct 31 2007, 01:24 PM
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I have a very good feeling this trade will get done. I am much more happy with a Gordon/Noah/Thomas/DraftPick trade than what i was hearing before. That seems pretty fair and not really a fleasing.
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post Oct 31 2007, 01:27 PM
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Take it for what it's worth, but Dan Bernstein just said that he got information that said that a deal of the following is 90% to get done within the next 48-72 hours.

Lakers get
Ron Artest

Kings get
Kirk

Bulls get
Kobe

other pieces will move, supposedly, and gordon might be out the door... but this is what he just broke with.
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post Oct 31 2007, 01:45 PM
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I would definitely take that with a grain of salt, since the Bulls would need to add around $10 mil to make it work. That'd be hard to do without adding other major pieces, unless the Lakers are going to take a gigantic sign and trade with Brown.

Man, that means Duhon or Sefolosha starting at PG, or possibly Gordon. Yeesh. I'd MUCH rather see Gordon as the centerpiece, Kirk can have an awful lot of value as a complementary guard that can limit turnovers, play defense, and stick the wide-open jumpers he's bound to get with decent regularity. I just don't think Sefolosha is ready, Duhon can't score/shoot, and Gordon as a PG on both ends worries me.

Obviously value-wise it's a no-brainer, but it doesn't seem to make sense with the rest of the team, you take a major hit at PG and end up with two SG's.
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post Oct 31 2007, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (steve9347 @ Oct 31 2007, 02:36 PM) *
Take it for what it's worth, but Dan Bernstein just said that he got information that said that a deal of the following is 90% to get done within the next 48-72 hours.

Lakers get
Ron Artest

Kings get
Kirk

Bulls get
Kobe

other pieces will move, supposedly, and gordon might be out the door... but this is what he just broke with.


Ha, I would love to see Phil Jackson deal with Ron Artest. If Gordon is out the door, and Kirk goes to Sacramento, that really leaves a void at guard
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post Oct 31 2007, 02:29 PM
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Phil Jackson has openly stated he'd love to have Ron Artest

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post Oct 31 2007, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (steve9347 @ Oct 31 2007, 03:38 PM) *
Phil Jackson has openly stated he'd love to have Ron Artest



There is always the saying "Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it"

Artest in LA is a recipe for disaster. Especially considering that he would be the star player on that team after the trade
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post Oct 31 2007, 03:08 PM
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The trade involves Sacremento giving up Ron Artest.

Chi gets: Kobe

SAC gets: Tyrus Thomas or Joakim Noah, Khryapa, Hinrich

LA gets: Artest, Gordon
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post Oct 31 2007, 03:29 PM
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Im not sure the Score knows what they are talking about. They also said there was no way Paxson would trade Deng or Kirk so who knows. It might be too much giving up hinrich/gordon/noah/thomas. yikes.
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post Oct 31 2007, 03:30 PM
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My prediction:

Gordon, Kirk and the others start tonight, nothing happens tonight as far as a trade but tomorrow there will be a report that the deal has been made and everyone will go insane but they won't announce it till later tommorrow night and we give up my favorite player Tyrus Thomas sad.gif
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post Oct 31 2007, 04:18 PM
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if they can get a trade done that doesnt involve deng then i say go go for it. honestly i think the team would be clearly better. I like Duhon at the point with a player like kobe on the team, we dont really need hinrichs shooting with a guy like kobe and also deng getting the majority of the points, they just need a point that knows how to get the ball to the 2 stars. I would also like Kobe running the point strictly for the fact that he demands double teams and can be a slasher point like tont parker or well kobe bryant. If the deal does happen and noc isnt involved I can see kobe driving to the basket and kicking it out to noc for 3.

what would you guys rather see

pg kobe
sg thabo

or

pg duh
sg kobe

a stat i like lookin at is in the 04-05 season kobe bryant averaged 6 assists per game along with 27ppg. Hinrichs best season he averaged 6.3 and 16.6. if we can get a season like that out of kobe thats just a .3 drop off in assists with a 11 point upgrade.


make it happen pax.


anyone know if earl boykins is still a free agent....if so what do you guys think about him running the point
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post Oct 31 2007, 04:32 PM
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Radio reports say Wallace and Gordon leaving...
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post Oct 31 2007, 04:46 PM
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ESPN reported that the deal with Chi sending Gordon and Wallace to LA for Kobe is not exactly dead but the deal fell through because LA balked at Wallace's contract. The deal also involved the Kings. He says talks are hotter than ever and its likely this deal gets tweaked to LA's liking within the next 24-48 hours.

Do we give in and let them have Deng instead of Gordon to get Kobe? I don't think so..
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