 2012 Pre-Draft Talk, Because it's never too early. |
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 Jun 26 2012, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jun 26 2012, 02:38 PM)  What is this rumor now?? Just Deng straight up for the #8?? Id like it if we got Calderon back too, then instead of using the MLE on a PG give Brandon Roy a shot. Based on the nbadraft.net mock I think I'd go with Terrance Ross over anyone else. In the above situation we're not getting Dengs replacement so Ross, a guy that can play the 2 and the 3 would be the guy I go with and hope either him or Butler steps up and can be a good starter. Are the Raptors that far under the cap? Ideally totally moving Dengs deal, or at least moving him for an expiring deal would be the best thing financially for the Bulls. |
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Jun 26 2012, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jun 26 2012, 01:41 PM) Are the Raptors that far under the cap? Ideally totally moving Dengs deal, or at least moving him for an expiring deal would be the best thing financially for the Bulls. The NBA trade machines not working for me ATM and I dont feel like doing the added research on the cap number. Just to feel better about the trade Id wanna get an expiring contract back that helps us next year, Jose Calderon fits that bill perfectly. |
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Jun 26 2012, 01:56 PM
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The Raptors are sitting at $41 million currently and would be at $45.2 million if they extend a qualifying offer to Jerryd Bayless. If the cap is close to $59 million they might be able to absorb Deng completely. However, they could also clear space by giving the Bulls Calderon's deal, which expires post 2013 ($10 million, they're under the cap so they can pocket the difference).
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Jun 26 2012, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jun 26 2012, 02:50 PM) The NBA trade machines not working for me ATM and I dont feel like doing the added research on the cap number. Just to feel better about the trade Id wanna get an expiring contract back that helps us next year, Jose Calderon fits that bill perfectly. Calderon would be a great deal to get back as it would give them a real PG with Rose out. |
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Jun 26 2012, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jun 26 2012, 03:05 PM) Calderon would be a great deal to get back as it would give them a real PG with Rose out. The issue is the Raps wouldn't have a PG if they dealt Calderon....I don't see them bringing back Bayless at any capacity. |
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Jun 26 2012, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (rockren @ Jun 26 2012, 04:15 PM) The issue is the Raps wouldn't have a PG if they dealt Calderon....I don't see them bringing back Bayless at any capacity. So what was the rumor you heard?? Just Deng for the 8 straight up?? |
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Jun 26 2012, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (rockren @ Jun 26 2012, 06:15 PM) The issue is the Raps wouldn't have a PG if they dealt Calderon....I don't see them bringing back Bayless at any capacity. If they don't offer Bayless the qualifying option, then they should be far enough under the cap to offer a max deal unless the cap is very low (currently $58 million, they'd be at just over $40 million). If the Raps need a PG in this scenario I'm happy to include Watson. |
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Jun 26 2012, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jun 26 2012, 05:20 PM) So what was the rumor you heard?? Just Deng for the 8 straight up?? I apologize- just PURE speculation on my part. I read on article in which Colangelo told a reporter he was offered immediate impact players straight up for the #8 pick, but was only thinking about it. I'd be stunned if one of those players WASN'T Deng. Again it is only speculation on my part and I apologize if I misled anyone. I'll see if I can dig up that article. |
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Jun 26 2012, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jun 26 2012, 05:25 PM) If they don't offer Bayless the qualifying option, then they should be far enough under the cap to offer a max deal unless the cap is very low (currently $58 million, they'd be at just over $40 million). If the Raps need a PG in this scenario I'm happy to include Watson. +1 |
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Jun 26 2012, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jun 26 2012, 05:25 PM) If they don't offer Bayless the qualifying option, then they should be far enough under the cap to offer a max deal unless the cap is very low (currently $58 million, they'd be at just over $40 million). If the Raps need a PG in this scenario I'm happy to include Watson. That's a great idea. I have a feeling our targets at 8 might be a little different than 5, is one of Barnes/MKG going to make it down there? If not, who's left? |
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Jun 26 2012, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 26 2012, 09:18 PM) That's a great idea. I have a feeling our targets at 8 might be a little different than 5, is one of Barnes/MKG going to make it down there? If not, who's left? Its doubtful Barnes or MKG fall that far...I'd take Ross at 8. QUOTE QUOTE Strengths: Solid ball-handler ...Very good court vision, finding teammates off P&R, or fast break ... Runs the lane well in transition with ability to spot up on the wing or finish a lob ... Lacks a conscience. Possessing irrational confidence at times, allowing him to play at a high level without perceived nerves or anxiety in high-pressure situations ... Long and active defender on-ball ... Excellent pass denial. ... Capable help defender, proven through passing lane deflections and weak-side shot blocks ... Great footwork in the face-up game, mostly showcasing pump-fake, one dribble pull up/step-back ... Good 3pt and mid range shooter ... Shot has good lift and form ... Exciting dunker in traffic or off lobs, with exceptional contortion abilities and body control in the air ... Length and ball instincts make him a great rebounder for a guard ... That sounds like just the type of guy we need and would want. If they trade Deng I think they almost have to amnesty Boozer and make a run at one of the prime free agent SGs next year, therefore I go with the SF Ross. |
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Jun 26 2012, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jun 26 2012, 10:46 PM) Its doubtful Barnes or MKG fall that far...I'd take Ross at 8. -per nbadraft.net That sounds like just the type of guy we need and would want. If they trade Deng I think they almost have to amnesty Boozer and make a run at one of the prime free agent SGs next year, therefore I go with the SF Ross. Forgot about Ross. I'd assume this has been the plan all along. I don't know if anything short of a championship ring or an MVP trophy could keep Carlos here in 2013 |
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Jun 27 2012, 06:52 AM
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Perry Jones is listed as a 6-11 SF/PF on nbadraft.net...I've never seen him play, can he seriously be an NBA 3?? That would be pretty interesting to say the least.
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Jun 27 2012, 08:24 AM
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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Sacramento at No. 5 and Toronto at No. 8. Those are the picks still generating the most trade chatter on the eve of the NBA Draft |
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Jun 27 2012, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 26 2012, 10:18 PM) That's a great idea. I have a feeling our targets at 8 might be a little different than 5, is one of Barnes/MKG going to make it down there? If not, who's left? Probably Lamb. Ross is an option, though he needs to develop his game a bit in the area between the 3 and the basket. I hope it wouldn't be Rivers, he needs some serious adjustment to his shot selection. |
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