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eddog2
post Jul 12 2007, 08:16 PM
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Okay so Milicic reportedly signed with Memphis for 3 years $21 million. I pose the question of whether or not the Bulls paying Nocioni roughly the same (actually slightly more) for his $5 year $38 million. That averages to $7.6 million a season whereas Darko reportedly will be making $7. No to mention Nocioni isn't a starter and is a SF. The only positions in this league were a bench guy could demand starters money are PF/C and PG. Other than that SF's are a dime a dozen.

I don't agree with the practice but it is what it is.

I question whether or not we would have been better off making a strong push to Milicic instead of resigning Nocioni. It just would seem that for the same money I'd much rather have Darko at the 4/5 and play Tyrus at 3/4 than have Nocioni creating a log jam at 3/4 when we already have Deng & Tyrus. I think Darko could have solidified our low post needs for at least the next 3 years and possibly longer if he were willing to sign a 5 year deal.

It is pretty frustrating that instead, Memphis forced us to overpay for Nocioni while also getting the player that I really wanted in free agency.

Darko/Gasol
Gasol/Warrick/Swift
Gay/Miller
Miller/Kinsey
Conley/Stoudamire/Lowry

That is going to be a pretty good lineup. Good outside shooting with Gay/Miller. Good PG play. Good low post game with Darko/Gasol. Athleticism with Gay/Warrick/Swift. They are going to be very good in a couple of season if not pushing for the playoffs this year.
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post Jul 14 2007, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE (eddog2 @ Jul 12 2007, 07:09 PM) *
Okay so Milicic reportedly signed with Memphis for 3 years $21 million. I pose the question of whether or not the Bulls paying Nocioni roughly the same (actually slightly more) for his $5 year $38 million. That averages to $7.6 million a season whereas Darko reportedly will be making $7. No to mention Nocioni isn't a starter and is a SF. The only positions in this league were a bench guy could demand starters money are PF/C and PG. Other than that SF's are a dime a dozen.

I don't agree with the practice but it is what it is.

I question whether or not we would have been better off making a strong push to Milicic instead of resigning Nocioni. It just would seem that for the same money I'd much rather have Darko at the 4/5 and play Tyrus at 3/4 than have Nocioni creating a log jam at 3/4 when we already have Deng & Tyrus. I think Darko could have solidified our low post needs for at least the next 3 years and possibly longer if he were willing to sign a 5 year deal.

It is pretty frustrating that instead, Memphis forced us to overpay for Nocioni while also getting the player that I really wanted in free agency.

Darko/Gasol
Gasol/Warrick/Swift
Gay/Miller
Miller/Kinsey
Conley/Stoudamire/Lowry

That is going to be a pretty good lineup. Good outside shooting with Gay/Miller. Good PG play. Good low post game with Darko/Gasol. Athleticism with Gay/Warrick/Swift. They are going to be very good in a couple of season if not pushing for the playoffs this year.

I want to know how the Bulls were going to offer Darko 7 million. They couldn't. Even if Noc wasn't here they wouldn't have had the ability to do that. I would have loved to get Darko but the reality is he was gonna get more than the MLE and that meant the Bulls weren't gonna be able to land him.
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post Jul 14 2007, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 14 2007, 01:41 PM) *
I want to know how the Bulls were going to offer Darko 7 million. They couldn't. Even if Noc wasn't here they wouldn't have had the ability to do that. I would have loved to get Darko but the reality is he was gonna get more than the MLE and that meant the Bulls weren't gonna be able to land him.

Ok, so there seems to be 2 sides here...would the Bulls have been able to offer more than the MLE if they did not resign Nocioni or not? Otherwise this whole discussion is moot.
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post Jul 14 2007, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 14 2007, 01:43 PM) *
Ok, so there seems to be 2 sides here...would the Bulls have been able to offer more than the MLE if they did not resign Nocioni or not? Otherwise this whole discussion is moot.

I didn't think you could offer the MLE or use the MLE along with caproom. I thought the whole point of the exception was for teams right up against the cap.
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- eddog2   Darko   Jul 12 2007, 08:16 PM
- - SoxFan1   Memphis really kicked our ass this offseason. The ...   Jul 12 2007, 08:18 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 12 2007, 09:11 PM) M...   Jul 12 2007, 08:26 PM
|- - dasox24   QUOTE (eddog2 @ Jul 12 2007, 09:19 PM) Th...   Jul 12 2007, 10:04 PM
- - SoxFan1   Let's say we did deal Tyrus/Noah/Gordon for Ga...   Jul 12 2007, 09:03 PM
- - ZoomSlowik   The way Tyrus has been developing, I don't thi...   Jul 12 2007, 11:43 PM
- - madisonsmadhouse   I'd guess the Bulls still win around 20 more g...   Jul 13 2007, 04:37 AM
|- - ZoomSlowik   QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jul 13 2007, 05...   Jul 13 2007, 09:58 AM
|- - madisonsmadhouse   QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 13 2007, 10:51 AM...   Jul 13 2007, 10:05 AM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jul 13 2007, 10...   Jul 13 2007, 06:23 PM
- - Bullseye   Darko > Noc & Smith...   Jul 13 2007, 11:17 PM
- - Chisoxfn   QUOTE (eddog2 @ Jul 12 2007, 07:09 PM) Ok...   Jul 14 2007, 02:48 PM
|- - Balta1701-B   QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 14 2007, 01:41 PM) ...   Jul 14 2007, 02:50 PM
||- - Chisoxfn   QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 14 2007, 01...   Jul 14 2007, 02:52 PM
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||- - madisonsmadhouse   QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 14 2007, 03...   Jul 15 2007, 11:02 AM
||- - Chisoxfn   QUOTE (madisonsmadhouse @ Jul 15 2007, 09...   Jul 15 2007, 11:52 AM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 14 2007, 03:41 PM) ...   Jul 14 2007, 08:20 PM
|- - dasox24   QUOTE (eddog2 @ Jul 14 2007, 09:13 PM) Yo...   Jul 14 2007, 09:20 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (dasox24 @ Jul 14 2007, 10:13 PM) D...   Jul 15 2007, 08:20 AM
|- - dasox24   QUOTE (eddog2 @ Jul 15 2007, 09:13 AM) Ye...   Jul 15 2007, 10:03 AM
|- - Chisoxfn   QUOTE (dasox24 @ Jul 15 2007, 08:56 AM) O...   Jul 15 2007, 10:40 AM
- - sport1016   u cant add cap room to the mle bc then you'd ...   Jul 14 2007, 02:54 PM
- - b-riann   QUOTE (Balta1701-B @ Jul 14 2007, 03...   Jul 14 2007, 06:19 PM
- - BG7   I really have a hard time understanding all the se...   Jul 15 2007, 03:42 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (BG7 @ Jul 15 2007, 06:15 PM) I rea...   Jul 15 2007, 07:41 PM
|- - allbullz   QUOTE (BG7 @ Jul 15 2007, 04:51 PM) I rea...   Jul 20 2007, 09:30 AM
- - SoxFan1   Basically, what it comes down to is, would you rat...   Jul 15 2007, 08:45 PM
|- - madisonsmadhouse   QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 15 2007, 09:54 PM) B...   Jul 16 2007, 04:42 AM
|- - madisonsmadhouse   QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 15 2007, 09:54 PM) B...   Jul 16 2007, 04:43 AM
- - Alpha Double Negative   Your math is off, edog. we were at 46.8 million wi...   Jul 31 2007, 03:49 AM
- - eddog2   QUOTE (Alpha Double Negative @ Jul 31 2007, 0...   Jul 31 2007, 05:04 AM
- - Alpha Double Negative   QUOTE (eddog2 @ Jul 31 2007, 06:13 AM) Di...   Jul 31 2007, 05:34 AM


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