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eddog2
post Nov 11 2007, 11:08 AM
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The Bulls don't need Kobe to succeed but they do need to unload on a couple of players and make a statement that Deng and Gordon are the future of the Bulls. They didn't before the season but a trade of the right players and a public statement that Gordon and Deng aren't being traded will be huge for Deng and Gordon mentally.

He's a list of players on the Bulls that need to be traded listed in order.

1. Ben Wallace - I'm going to use the Tyson Chandler logic on this one. He's paid way too much for what he's giving us. He's not what we need especially when we now have Noah. Shaq no longer being the beast of the east means we don't need Wallace. I'm not so sure he can guard Garnett anyway so he won't help us much if we make the playoffs. However, if we trade him we have to get a young big man in return.

2. Andres Nocioni - The contract was a joke. He's not worth the contract he has unless we don't plan on keeping Deng. I really really hope the second is not true. So we trade Nocioni

3. Coach Skiles - He's a joke. He thinks his insane lineups will produce results and he thinks benching his best players is going to help them play better. It worked for a couple of years but without a contract Deng and Gordon are going to be less willing to take his spiff. Not to mention his best friend Kirk is probably going to start getting pissed as well not that he was finally included in the doghouse.

4. Kirk Hinirch - He's not the future PG we need. But who is? That's the problem. We'll keep him just b/c we don't have a better option. But my opinion is that is no reason for keeping players that aren't the future. However, if we keep Kirk, Deng, Gordon, & add a great PF/C we still could make this thing work. But I'd rather trade him away to get a younger PG & younger PF/C if possible.

5. Thabo Sefolosha - Trade him if he has value. He still can't make a jump shot. I think he'd still have pretty good value. It's pretty bad that I really wanted Ronnie Brewer in the draft but instead we took Thabo. Ronnie is proving this year to be the better of the 2. Brewer is averaging 15.3 ppg, & 3 spg while shooting 43% from 3 point range. Anyway, lets just say that Paxson really fucked up that draft. We could have had Aldridge, Brewer instead of Tyrus, Thabo. But at least Tyrus is showing some productivity the past few games.

6. Tyrus - Trade Tyrus only if it is a must to bring you someone great in return. (Kobe, Gasol, or I'd even trade him for Chris Wilcox but that's just me)



Trades I wouldn't mind seeing

1. Corey Maggette & Elton Brand for Wallace, Tyrus, Nocioni, & Thabo.

2. Kurt Thomas, Robert Swift, Chris Wilcox, Delonte West for Ben Wallace, Tyrus & Thabo. - I really doubt the Sonics would consider this deal unless they get the whole franchise move figured out. However, I think a Tyrus, Durant, Green combination would be good for them to build on in the future. I'd love to get Wilcox, & West wouldn't hurt. But the best thing about this deal is the cap room it gives us by getting rid of Wallace's contract and b/c Kurt Thomas's $8 million is an expiring contract. That would give us money to resign Deng & Gordon and also maybe sign a decent free agent. Wilcox has 2 years left on his contract for around $6.5 million per year.

3. Devin Harris & Diop for Kirk Hinrich. It would likely never happen but I would love it if it did.

4. Marcus Camby, Chucky Atkins for Ben Wallace, Thabo & a future pick.

5. McDyess, Amir Johnson, & Rodney Stucky, & take Nazr's contract if you have to for Ben Wallace & Thabo & a future pick. The great thing about this deal is you get rid of Ben Wallace and you get Amir Johnson who like Tyrus could become a star (he has that kind of talent). YOu also get Stucky who is 10 times better offensively then Thabo.

6. Kirk Hinirich, Tyrus, & Nocioni for Tracy McGrady & Bonzi Wells. It would likely never happen (because Houston is thinking championship. It might have happened in the summer) but it would awesome if it did. T-Mac is one of those Pippen like SF's that makes the need for a top quality PG a none issue. Deng, Gordon, T-Mac, Wallace, Noah, Thabo, Duhon, is a great lineup to rotat through.

7. Kaman, Brand, Maggette, Cassell & Aaron Williams for Kirk Hinrich, Ben Wallace, Tyrus, Noah & Gordon. The Bulls finally get a white big man worthy of starting. The Clippers get a lot younger which is what they need. They need to start over and hope that Al Thorton is the future and that Livingston comes back. The Bulls bring the size that they've wanted. They still have Deng & Nocioni which is more than the Clippers had to work with.

A lineup of

Kaman
Brand/Smith
Deng/Nocioni
Maggette/Thabo
Cassell/Duhon

Only problem would be depth at Center. We'd have to win a title in the next 3 years and we'd have no outside shooting except for Nocioni. However, with Brand and Kaman in the post I don't think the 3 point shooting will be that bad with Duhon, Nocioni, & Cassell. Cassell's salary also comes of the books whichi would help in resigning Deng.

8. Andrew Bogut, Michael Redd, David Noel for Ben Gordon, Wallace & Tyrus.

9. Lamarcus Aldrige & Raef Lafrentz for Kirk & Noah

10. Shaun Marion & Barbosa for Kirk, Nocioni, & Tyrus

Noah/Wallace
Marion/Smith
Deng/(Marion)
Gordon
Barbosa/Duhon/Thabo

11. Bibby, Kevin Martin, & Kenny Thomas for Kirk, Gordon, & Wallace. We could even through in Spencer Hawes for Thabo if that would make the Bulls fans on this site happy. Basically this trade is for Kevin Martin. The Kings likely won't get anything great for Bibby but if they can get Kirk & Gordon I don't see them passing that up. The Bulls would then have

Noah/(Hawes?)
Tyrus/Smith
Deng/Nocoini
Martin(maybe a step better offensively then Gordon & taller)/Thabo
Bibby/Duhon

I think this lineup is better then what we have now.
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- eddog2   Trades to consider not named Kobe   Nov 11 2007, 11:08 AM
- - DutheDoduhon21   i agree with shipping wallace and thabo out, but n...   Nov 11 2007, 11:34 AM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (DutheDoduhon21 @ Nov 11 2007, 11:4...   Nov 11 2007, 02:07 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   If the Clippers traded Maggete AND Brand to us for...   Nov 11 2007, 08:40 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Nov 11 2007,...   Nov 12 2007, 12:39 AM
|- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   QUOTE (eddog2 @ Nov 12 2007, 01:48 AM) An...   Nov 12 2007, 04:08 PM
- - Schalke   The first guy to get rid of on my list would be Sk...   Nov 11 2007, 09:36 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   Getting rid of Tyson Chandler was the biggest mist...   Nov 11 2007, 09:44 PM
- - The Dude Abides   The author's assessment is way off base on alm...   Nov 12 2007, 02:10 AM
- - sport1016   Gasol is said to be unhappy again in memphis. W...   Nov 12 2007, 07:18 PM
|- - Balta1701-B   QUOTE (sport1016 @ Nov 12 2007, 05:27 PM)...   Nov 12 2007, 08:47 PM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   No, remember before this Kobe talk they wanted Den...   Nov 12 2007, 08:48 PM
|- - Balta1701-B   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Nov 12 2007,...   Nov 12 2007, 09:08 PM
- - eddog2   If we add Gasol I hope it's not for Gordon ...   Nov 13 2007, 12:10 AM
- - madisonsmadhouse   While not a better player, I think Gasol would be ...   Nov 13 2007, 08:25 AM
- - Chicago Bulls Franchise   I would love to have Conley on the Bulls. At first...   Nov 13 2007, 04:09 PM
|- - eddog2   QUOTE (Chicago Bulls Franchise @ Nov 13 2007,...   Nov 15 2007, 09:24 PM
- - Balta1701-B   IMO, I think most of your guys' complete overh...   Nov 15 2007, 09:33 PM


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