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post Jul 2 2006, 08:54 PM
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So do we know if the Bulls left Wallace with an offer yet? Im getting nervous
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post Jul 2 2006, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 2 2006, 08:05 PM)
Now, we just have to hope our Ben Wallace isn't missing some muscles on his left arm/shoulder tongue.gif

All joking aside, cool stuff cheers.gif

lol yea its not the best quality tongue.gif
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post Jul 2 2006, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (The Gladiator @ Jul 2 2006, 08:47 PM)
So do we know if the Bulls left Wallace with an offer yet? Im getting nervous

hopefully by tommorow we will know if an offer was left on the table. If there was an offer we should hear about it then.
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post Jul 2 2006, 09:32 PM
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http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...ts/14954410.htm

1 million per year more? That won't get it done IMO.
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post Jul 2 2006, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 2 2006, 10:25 PM)
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...ts/14954410.htm

1 million per year more? That won't get it done IMO.

Thats not what I wanted to hear. I don't think he'll join the Bulls for anything less than 55 mil.
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post Jul 2 2006, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 2 2006, 07:25 PM)
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...ts/14954410.htm

1 million per year more? That won't get it done IMO.

Luckily it said we started the bidding at that. My guess is we start there and than wait to hear back from Arn where he gives us a pretty realistic shot of what it will take and whether its even a realistic option (Ben coming here and leaving the Pistons).

We'll know a lot in the next 24-48 hrs.
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post Jul 2 2006, 10:24 PM
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Nothing really new, but here it is anyway...

The ball's in Wallace's court
Pistons' center must weigh offers from Bulls and Detroit
By Marlen Garcia
Tribune staff reporter

July 2, 2006, 11:05 PM CDT

Ben Wallace has to decide whether he wants to stay comfortable in Detroit or try to make a splash with the up-and-coming Bulls.

The 6-foot-9-inch center reportedly has an offer from the Pistons that would pay him an estimated $48 million over four years. A source close to the Bulls confirmed they also had made a four-year offer.

Bulls general manager John Paxson and coach Scott Skiles met with Wallace on Saturday in Detroit.

The Bulls have about $15 million in salary-cap room for next season and likely offered Wallace slightly more than the Pistons, probably $13 million to $13.5 million, for the first year.

That offer probably isn't enough to sweep Wallace off his feet. So it's up to the veteran, entering his 11th season, to decide on a career path.

Both offers could hold attractions.

Wallace won a championship ring with the Pistons in 2004 and has helped them reach the NBA Finals twice. The Pistons went on a roll during the 2005-06 regular season, going 64-18, but came undone in the playoffs and lost to Miami in the Eastern Conference finals.

Wallace criticized coach Flip Saunders during the playoffs, raising questions about whether Wallace would return. He also raised eyebrows during the regular season because he balked at re-entering a game in Orlando.

But a source close to the Pistons said Wallace's alleged falling out with Saunders had been overblown.

Reports out of Detroit indicate Wallace would consider leaving the Pistons, for whom he has played the last six seasons, only if a winning team beat the offer.

It is believed that a five-year offer could sway Wallace, but no team is likely to make such an offer because the NBA's "over-36" rule would require his fifth year to be prorated and counted against the team's salary cap in the previous four seasons. The rule takes effect when a player turns 36 in a deal of at least four years. Wallace will be 32 on Sept. 10.

The Bulls are the only team thought to be seriously pursuing Wallace. Philadelphia contacted his agent, Arn Tellem, but would need a sign-and-trade to make the deal. Tellem could not be reached for comment.

The Bulls went 41-41 last season but came on strong to close the regular season and gave the Heat a tough time in the first round of the playoffs.

For the last three seasons, the Bulls have been a work in progress. But they could improve significantly with Wallace on their side.

It would weaken the division rival Pistons and possibly disrupt Detroit's cohesion. In addition, the four-time NBA defensive player of the year would erase questions about the Bulls' staying power inside.

It's no stretch to say Wallace could make the Bulls contenders for the Eastern Conference title next season, assuming the young nucleus of Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon, Luol Deng, Andres Nocioni and Chris Duhon lives up to its promise. That's also assuming Wallace's durable but aging body holds up as well as it has in Detroit.

The Bulls pride themselves on their defense. Last season they had the top defensive field-goal percentage in the league at .426.

Wallace is popular in Detroit for his work ethic, especially on defense. His characteristics would resonate with Chicagoans.

He would play a bigger role on offense with the Bulls, which is said to be important to him, though he isn't considered a strong offensive player.

Last season Wallace averaged 7.3 points to go with impressive averages of 11.3 rebounds, 1.78 steals and 2.21 blocks per game. He ranked in the top 10 in the league in the latter three categories.

Wallace has two offers on the table but now needs to decide if he should stay or go.

mxgarcia@tribune.com
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post Jul 3 2006, 01:02 AM
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Detroit Free Press - Ben Wallace currently has two deals on his plate, according to the Detroit Free Press, with both the Pistons and the Chicago Bulls putting in their bids for the defensive player of the year's services for the next four years.

The Pistons have offered a four-year deal worth approximately $48 million to Wallace in Detroit. And the Chicago Bulls , who sent coach Scott Skiles and vice president of basketball John Paxson to Detroit, have started bidding at closer to $52 million for four seasons.

Wallace is an unrestricted free agent and can verbally agree to a deal at any time, but he can't sign a contract until July 12 at the earliest.
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post Jul 3 2006, 01:09 AM
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Yeah, this is legit, this article backs that up: http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-060702bulls,1,608510.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

Wow, we would definately have the lock down defense in the league if we signed Ben Wallace. But man oh man, where would our low-post scoring come from? If we signed Wallace, I can see us perhaps then trading Chandler for a low post scorer.
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post Jul 3 2006, 05:36 AM
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Don't know if this has been posted before, but Ben wasn't happy with Detroit's intial offer. I thought the Bulls offering only $1 mill a yr more was low. Maybe it was just right. They can always up the offer. If any agent can work out a deal with the Bulls, it seems Tellem is the man.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic.../607030342/1127

There is some good news in this. Esp. where Ben says he's not looking for more than a 4 yr deal. If Ben's the main target, the bulls should get close to $15 mill, where the Pistons won't go near.
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post Jul 3 2006, 05:52 AM
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A decision by Wallace should be made pretty soon. Whichever way Wallace goes, making a quick decision is helpful to both teams. The team that doesn't get Wallace can then go in another direction. Tellem doesn't seem the type to prolong a negotiation just to work out a few extra bucks.

If Tellem has such a good working relationship with the Bulls and Jerry R, then having both teams put their best offers on the table after their initial offers would seem to be the next step.
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post Jul 3 2006, 08:34 AM
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Detroit Free Press - Ben Wallace currently has two deals on his plate, according to the Detroit Free Press, with both the Pistons and the Chicago Bulls putting in their bids for the defensive player of the year's services for the next four years.

The Pistons have offered a four-year deal worth approximately $48 million to Wallace in Detroit. And the Chicago Bulls , who sent coach Scott Skiles and vice president of basketball John Paxson to Detroit, have started bidding at closer to $52 million for four seasons.

Wallace is an unrestricted free agent and can verbally agree to a deal at any time, but he can't sign a contract until July 12 at the earliest
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post Jul 3 2006, 10:00 AM
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Philly would have to trade Dalembert like we need to trade Tyson to make a deal work.
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post Jul 3 2006, 04:53 PM
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Ben Wallace is reportedly disappointed with the Pistons' initial offer of $48 million to keep him Detroit.
He's in negotiations with the Bulls and it would not be surprising to see him land in Chicago. Jul. 3 - 6:39 pm et
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