 How do you make Bulls a Title contender next year?, KG + Pierce |
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 Mar 14 2006, 09:42 PM
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I posted this in another thread but I think it deserves special attention. Its not tottaly impossible, but maybe we could ship Ben Gordon to Celtics for Paul Pierce. Then, we can trade our 2 picks this year + Sweets for Kevin Garnett.
Then our Lineup would look like this: Tyson Chandler Kevin Garnett Luol Deng Paul Pierce Kirk Hinrich I think this lineup would at least get us to the Conference Finals, what do you guys think? |
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Mar 14 2006, 09:48 PM
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2 picks+Sweets for KG doesn't work
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Mar 14 2006, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE (Michael Jordan @ Mar 14 2006, 09:35 PM) I posted this in another thread but I think it deserves special attention. Its not tottaly impossible, but maybe we could ship Ben Gordon to Celtics for Paul Pierce. Then, we can trade our 2 picks this year + Sweets for Kevin Garnett. Then our Lineup would look like this: Tyson Chandler Kevin Garnett Luol Deng Paul Pierce Kirk Hinrich I think this lineup would at least get us to the Conference Finals, what do you guys think? Well, salaries gotta match up in both deals, and Tim Thomas is gone, but I like the way you think.  Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce combined with Chandler/Hinrich/Deng/Nocioni/Duhon and a competent perimiter defender would undoubtedly turn us into a championship contender. |
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Mar 14 2006, 10:48 PM
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Um, the Bulls would have to give up a lot more. To make it work, it'd probably have to be something like Deng, Chandler, a pick or two, and some more people just for salary filler.
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Mar 14 2006, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE (Michael Jordan @ Mar 14 2006, 07:35 PM) I posted this in another thread but I think it deserves special attention. Its not tottaly impossible, but maybe we could ship Ben Gordon to Celtics for Paul Pierce. Then, we can trade our 2 picks this year + Sweets for Kevin Garnett. Then our Lineup would look like this: Tyson Chandler Kevin Garnett Luol Deng Paul Pierce Kirk Hinrich I think this lineup would at least get us to the Conference Finals, what do you guys think? The Bulls would have to include equal matching salaries in one of those deals (due to the salary cap). Gordon couldn't be the lone part to getting Pierce, Boston would want more. And in terms of KG, its a definate possibility, but along with draft picks and Sweet's you'd have to give up Tyson (for contractual purposes) and at the very least Noc or Duhon. |
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Mar 14 2006, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Mar 14 2006, 07:51 PM) Well, salaries gotta match up in both deals, and Tim Thomas is gone, but I like the way you think. Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce combined with Chandler/Hinrich/Deng/Nocioni/Duhon and a competent perimiter defender would undoubtedly turn us into a championship contender. Exactly, while we may not be able to get those players, there are going to be at least a few 2 guards out there. I think Pierce is the best bet, but even signing a guy like Peja while drafting Aldridge or potentially dealing picks and a little talent for KG, would be equally as valuable. However, its still unrealistic. I think the most realistic scenario would have the Bulls trading for a big or SF or signing one, while adding the other position view the draft (and at the same time signing a guy to the MLE). |
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Mar 14 2006, 11:31 PM
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Realistically speaking it's doubtful the Bulls have the resources to acquire one of KG/Pierce, much less both. The Bulls lack a significant trade chip (maybe Luol Deng, maybe) and the draft is weak on all-star caliber potential. About the best you can hope for is Bosh demands a trade and Toronto is willing to take draft picks + fillers.
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Mar 14 2006, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE (mac9001 @ Mar 14 2006, 09:24 PM) Realistically speaking it's doubtful the Bulls have the resources to acquire one of KG/Pierce, much less both. The Bulls lack a significant trade chip (maybe Luol Deng, maybe) and the draft is weak on all-star caliber potential. About the best you can hope for is Bosh demands a trade and Toronto is willing to take draft picks + fillers. Welcome aboard. Bosh would be an interesting fit. He's one of the better young PF's in the game and he's pretty much led Rapotrs ownership know he'll be gone (pretty much anyone leaves there anyway). I know the Lakers are positioning themselves to get Bosh. They want him badly (however they are more likely going to wait till he's a FA cause the Lakers will have caproom in a year). |
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Mar 15 2006, 01:30 AM
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Coangelo is the GM in Toronto, now. The only way he will give up bosh is if he fleeces the team he trades with, and Paxson is to smart for that.
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Mar 15 2006, 01:55 AM
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I would settle for:
Chandler Aldridge Deng Pierce Hinrich Trade the Bulls pick and Gordon + a salary filler for Pierce. Keep the Knicks pick and draft Aldridge. KG and Pierce would be very expensive. |
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Mar 15 2006, 06:47 AM
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10 Day Contract Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 13-March 06 Member No.: 19 |
Draft Collins/Aldridge. Sign Harrington.
Chandler Harrington Deng Gordon Hinrich Collins Duhon Aldridge Noc Songaila Sweetney FA |
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Mar 15 2006, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 14 2006, 08:48 PM) The Bulls would have to include equal matching salaries in one of those deals (due to the salary cap). Gordon couldn't be the lone part to getting Pierce, Boston would want more. And in terms of KG, its a definate possibility, but along with draft picks and Sweet's you'd have to give up Tyson (for contractual purposes) and at the very least Noc or Duhon. If the Bulls are under the cap this summer due to Thomas's expiring deal, isn't it possible for the Bulls to take on extra salary in a trade & make a deal without equal contracts? |
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Mar 15 2006, 11:44 AM
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Unless one of the two deals puts them over the cap before the second deal is completed. For example, Garnetts salary would put the Bulls over the cap, and then they would have to be within the cap constraints to do another deal.
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Mar 15 2006, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 15 2006, 09:37 AM) Unless one of the two deals puts them over the cap before the second deal is completed. For example, Garnetts salary would put the Bulls over the cap, and then they would have to be within the cap constraints to do another deal. So in other words we could take Garnett with ease, right? I'll take that one. |
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Mar 15 2006, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (RME JICO @ Mar 15 2006, 01:48 AM) Trade the Bulls pick and Gordon + a salary filler for Pierce. Keep the Knicks pick and draft Aldridge. KG and Pierce would be very expensive. If you think Boston will accpet "Bulls pick and Gordon + a salary filler for Pierce", you're mistaken. The last conversation i had with a Celtic fan he proposed: Hinrich, Deng + the two bulls drak picks for Pierce and Al Jefferson, then a few days later he changed his mind and said it's still no enough. The Celtics and their fans view Pierce as a top-5 player and would have to be blown away by an offer to trade him. |
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