2012 offseason FA/trade rumor thread |
2012 offseason FA/trade rumor thread |
Jul 3 2012, 05:27 PM
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#106
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Then they're still sitting there at $55 million or so with no shooting guard on the roster. That's fine. A starting lineup of Rose, Keith Bogans type, Lu, Taj and Jo could be elite should we rebuild our bench again through the draft. I feel we're on the right track with the drafting of Teague. |
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Jul 3 2012, 06:36 PM
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#107
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That's fine. A starting lineup of Rose, Keith Bogans type, Lu, Taj and Jo could be elite should we rebuild our bench again through the draft. I feel we're on the right track with the drafting of Teague. I feel like that was the 2010 roster except the 2010 roster had a deeper bench. And it wasn't as good as the Heat. |
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Jul 3 2012, 10:32 PM
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#108
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You amnesty Boozer to sign Taj, who in a perfect world would be cheaper but at the worst I imagine it will be a wash, which saves us money by not paying Taj what he is making now.
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Jul 5 2012, 08:26 AM
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#109
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All-Star Group: Administrator Posts: 2,568 Joined: 13-March 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 21 |
Dwight has made it clear he's only signing in one place. The Bulls probably aren't moving Noah-plus unless that changes. Prepare for Brook Lopez and/or Kris Humphries to be signed and traded there, possibly with Marshon Brooks and/or picks. To me, it is worth the shot. With what you give up to get Dwight, even if he doesn't resign it gives you cap room in 2013-14 and allows you to do a semi-rebuild. It also gives you the chance to spend a year smooching his behind to try to get him to stay here long term. My feeling is that if you want to win an NBA title with Rose, this is your chance. What other chances do you have? |
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Jul 5 2012, 08:33 AM
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To me, it is worth the shot. With what you give up to get Dwight, even if he doesn't resign it gives you cap room in 2013-14 and allows you to do a semi-rebuild. It also gives you the chance to spend a year smooching his behind to try to get him to stay here long term. My feeling is that if you want to win an NBA title with Rose, this is your chance. What other chances do you have? I have been behind this belief for a while now. Even in the nightmare scenario where he does decide to bounce, you pretty much are just expediting your re-tooling process as it is. And realistically if he comes here and actually has to play for an entire season and you can't convince him that Chicago is awesome, DRose is God, and he has a tremendous chance to win a title here then something is seriously fucked up. |
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Jul 5 2012, 09:01 AM
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And realistically if he comes here and actually has to play for an entire season and you can't convince him that Chicago is awesome, DRose is God, and he has a tremendous chance to win a title here then something is seriously fucked up. He'd also have to play for a coach who is going to demand high effort from him and an organization that isn't interested in giving him special priveledges/power over the GM's slot. |
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Jul 5 2012, 09:06 AM
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All-Star Group: Administrator Posts: 2,568 Joined: 13-March 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 21 |
He'd also have to play for a coach who is going to demand high effort from him and an organization that isn't interested in giving him special priveledges/power over the GM's slot. And if he is more interested in being a Dbag than winning a title, you start your rebuild with the knowledge that you gave your franchise the best shot possible at winning an NBA title. What more can you ask for as a fan? |
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Jul 5 2012, 09:38 AM
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To me, it is worth the shot. With what you give up to get Dwight, even if he doesn't resign it gives you cap room in 2013-14 and allows you to do a semi-rebuild. It also gives you the chance to spend a year smooching his behind to try to get him to stay here long term. My feeling is that if you want to win an NBA title with Rose, this is your chance. What other chances do you have? If he walks at the end of the year, that's not really much of a chance. Then you're stuck in a very Cleveland-like situation where you have Rose and whatever contracts Orlando dumped on you to facilitate the trade. |
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Jul 5 2012, 09:41 AM
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Bench Group: Global Moderators Posts: 326 Joined: 23-April 06 Member No.: 109 |
It's really a solid idea, depending on exactly what you have to give up. Have to wonder if Orlando isn't barking up that tree just due to the fact that they don't want to risk making Chicago into a perennial champion in their own conference...but then again, they risk that almost anywhere they send him.
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Jul 5 2012, 09:42 AM
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If he walks at the end of the year, that's not really much of a chance. Then you're stuck in a very Cleveland-like situation where you have Rose and whatever contracts Orlando dumped on you to facilitate the trade. You think they'd send ADDITIONAL money over? That would make it even harder to match salaries I'd think. You definitely can't do it if you end up with not that much cap room if he leaves. You'd want room for a max contract plus another big name player if he left. |
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Jul 5 2012, 10:39 AM
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You think they'd send ADDITIONAL money over? That would make it even harder to match salaries I'd think. You definitely can't do it if you end up with not that much cap room if he leaves. You'd want room for a max contract plus another big name player if he left. That's what virtually any Dwight offer involves, taking at least one horrible contract back. Brooklyn can't do that, which is problematic. If I had to guess, it'd be something like Noah, Deng and picks for Dwight and either Jason Richardson or Glen Davis. Orlando might try to tack on one of those guys with options to try to get us to take the other guy above or Chris Duhon. Past rumors had been that they were trying to dump Hedo in the same deal, but he's only got one year and a partially guaranteed year left. So you'd be stuck with at least one undesireable contract, still be stuck with Boozer, and probably having to fork out $8 mil for Gibson. And you're back in the free agency game where the Bulls always lose, with by far the best guy on the market already telling you no. You're also not likely to take a big-time point guard either, which eliminates Chris Paul. |
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Jul 5 2012, 12:17 PM
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All-Star Group: Administrator Posts: 2,568 Joined: 13-March 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 21 |
That's what virtually any Dwight offer involves, taking at least one horrible contract back. Brooklyn can't do that, which is problematic. If I had to guess, it'd be something like Noah, Deng and picks for Dwight and either Jason Richardson or Glen Davis. Orlando might try to tack on one of those guys with options to try to get us to take the other guy above or Chris Duhon. Past rumors had been that they were trying to dump Hedo in the same deal, but he's only got one year and a partially guaranteed year left. So you'd be stuck with at least one undesireable contract, still be stuck with Boozer, and probably having to fork out $8 mil for Gibson. And you're back in the free agency game where the Bulls always lose, with by far the best guy on the market already telling you no. You're also not likely to take a big-time point guard either, which eliminates Chris Paul. Boozer can always been amnestied. |
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Jul 5 2012, 12:26 PM
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Boozer can always been amnestied. Yeah, but that's a major chun of cash they have to come up with, and they'd still have like $30 mil committed to Rose, Richardson/Davis and Gibson, not counting draft picks/vet min guys that you have on the roster. You'd really only have enough room for one max-type contract, and as I said, the top-2 guys on the market wouldn't be options. |
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