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nitetrain8601
post Jun 29 2006, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (The Gladiator @ Jun 29 2006, 10:51 AM)
Might I add Tyrus was only a freshmen who averaged 12 and 9 a Freshman! Who knows, If he stayed 4 years in college he could have averaged like 22 and 13 or something huh.gif

Im telling you, MARK MY WORDS Tyrus will not be a bust. Give him a chance you guys you wont regret it.

He was a 2nd year college player. He red-shirted his first year. I don't even think he's a Tyson part 2 because he was never as good as Tyson was.
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post Jun 29 2006, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (The Gladiator @ Jun 29 2006, 10:51 AM)
Might I add Tyrus was only a freshmen who averaged 12 and 9 a Freshman! Who knows, If he stayed 4 years in college he could have averaged like 22 and 13 or something huh.gif

Im telling you, MARK MY WORDS Tyrus will not be a bust. Give him a chance you guys you wont regret it.

It doesn't really work that way. Some guys peak earlier than others. He could just as easily average 10 points as a senior because people start to focus their D on him more. Plus you rarely see guys on major college teams averaging over 20 a game unless they have no balance whatsoever like Duke this past year.

Unless he develops some skills, he is going to be a bust, just like other athletic guys with no position like Tim Thomas, Stromile Swift and Darius Miles.
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post Jun 29 2006, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jun 29 2006, 10:58 AM)
He was a 2nd year college player. He red-shirted his first year. I don't even think he's a Tyson part 2 because he was never as good as Tyson was.

mk..... rolleyes.gif

Since he could work on his game while he was injured.. OMG dude, He was a Freshman even though he redshirted, its not like he could work on his game because he was injured!

Thearetically (However you spell it) He was indeed a sophomore but consider him a freshman
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post Jun 29 2006, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 29 2006, 10:58 AM)
It doesn't really work that way. Some guys peak earlier than others. He could just as easily average 10 points as a senior because people start to focus their D on him more. Plus you rarely see guys on major college teams averaging over 20 a game unless they have no balance whatsoever like Duke this past year.

Unless he develops some skills, he is going to be a bust, just like other athletic guys with no position like Tim Thomas, Stromile Swift and Darius Miles.

once again, You dont know that.
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post Jun 29 2006, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE (The Gladiator @ Jun 29 2006, 10:54 AM)
IIRC Wasnt Chris Bosh's Stats much worse than what he is averaging right now?

He averaged like 14 and 8 in college, which is a better than he did as a rookie. He was also on a much weaker team, which makes his numbers a bit more impressive.

Once you get some experience the college totals don't matter as much because there are 8 fewer minutes in a college game. However, in your first year you're rarely going to do better unless you're a rare NBA ready talent that is going to get 38 minutes a game, which probably won't happen to Tyrus.
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post Jun 29 2006, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE (The Gladiator @ Jun 29 2006, 10:59 AM)
mk..... rolleyes.gif

Since he could work on his game while he was injured.. OMG dude, He was a Freshman even though he redshirted, its not like he could work on his game because he was injured!

Thearetically (However you spell it) He was indeed a sophomore but consider him a freshman

He still had a year to gain weight and learn the system. He also grew a couple of inches, he was 6'7" when he got on campus. That helps a lot.
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post Jun 29 2006, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (The Gladiator @ Jun 29 2006, 11:00 AM)
once again, You dont know that.

Okay, Tyrus is a exception. Despite the fact that he's an undersized PF he can simply dunk over everybody and dominate without adding any weight or developing a post game because he's Superman. jpshakehead.gif

He's probably not even as good a prospect as those guys were when he was coming out. In a stronger draft he goes somewhere around pick #10 because he still has a long way to go.
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post Jun 29 2006, 11:15 AM
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I'm going to guess he ends up averaging more rebounds than points per game.
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post Jun 29 2006, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29 2006, 11:08 AM)
I'm going to guess he ends up averaging more rebounds than points per game.

That would be a safe guess.

As far as Tyson being better, I didn't only see it with my own eyes, scouts saw it too:

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/saying_010629.html

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What people around the country have been saying about two of the players the Bulls acquired in the 2001 NBA Draft- Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry:

"I think Tyson Chandler is the best player (in the draft). He's 7-foot. He's got like a 9-foot wingspan. It's incredible. He runs like a deer, has the ability to handle the ball, take it from the wing, pull up and shoot jump shots. He is an NBA talent right now. You would not have a doubt about his talent right now."
- Director of player personnel from the Western Conference

"The pros really like Curry because of his physical presence, NBA-size body and his smash-mouth style of play. They see Chandler as a Kevin Garnett-type of a player who can put it on the floor, step back and hit the 17-foot jumper while also having a reliable jump hook inside."
- Van Coleman, national college recruiting analyst

"Tyson Chandler is a tremendous runner and shotblocker. But he has excellent athletic ability."
- Boston Celtics GM Chris Wallace

"Curry is an overpowering inside force."
- Bob Gibbons, national college recruiting analyst

"He (Eddy Curry) is physically stronger than Shaquille O'Neal was as a high school senior in 1989. Shaq was more athletic, but Curry is more physical and stronger."
- Bob Gibbons, national college recruiting analyst

"Chandler may have the best floor speed of any big man in recent memory. He's a new-look four (power forward). He's obviously not a power player, but because of his length and quickness, his ability to cover space in the lane and quickness of his feet, he can make an impact in the lane defensively. There are many successful fours today that are not power players, like Kevin Garnett and Rasheed Wallace."
- Jeff Weltman, Director of Player Personnel, L.A. Clippers


"Chandler's got the ballhandling and face-the-basket skills to be a small forward in the NBA, yet the body of a post player. His athleticism and end-to-end quickness will make him an instant hit."
- ESPN.com's Andy Katz

"[b]Chandler's game has been compared to that of Portland's Rasheed Wallace and Minnesota's Kevin Garnett."
- The Press-Enterprise
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"Eddy has a man's body and his strength is amazing. He can run the court well for a guy his size, and he is talented offensively. He can shoot the ball facing the basket and he finds ways to score inside."
- Brent Johnson, a scout for the Houston Rockets

"Eddy Curry has tremendous size and strength, even for the NBA level. He has very good hands and very quick feet for a player his size."
- Jeff Weltman, Director of Player Personnel for the L.A. Clippers

"Because of his uncommon combination of size and athleticism, Curry is considered to have the largest upside of any high schooler in the draft pool."
- Daily Southtown
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post Jun 29 2006, 12:31 PM
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post Jun 29 2006, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jun 29 2006, 11:21 AM)
That would be a safe guess.

As far as Tyson being better, I didn't only see it with my own eyes, scouts saw it too:

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/saying_010629.html

"I think Tyson Chandler is the best player (in the draft). He's 7-foot. He's got like a 9-foot wingspan. It's incredible. He runs like a deer, has the ability to handle the ball, take it from the wing, pull up and shoot jump shots. He is an NBA talent right now. You would not have a doubt about his talent right now."
- Director of player personnel from the Western Conference

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Sadly, we've been hearing similar things about tyrus' non-existent jump shot too...
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post Jun 29 2006, 12:45 PM
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TT's 1st year stats: 7 PPG 6 RPG 2 BPG 25 MPG
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post Jun 29 2006, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 29 2006, 12:29 PM)
"I think Tyson Chandler is the best player (in the draft). He's 7-foot. He's got like a 9-foot wingspan. It's incredible. He runs like a deer, has the ability to handle the ball, take it from the wing, pull up and shoot jump shots. He is an NBA talent right now. You would not have a doubt about his talent right now."
- Director of player personnel from the Western Conference

laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Sadly, we've been hearing similar things about tyrus' non-existent jump shot too...

To be fair, he did look like a heck of a prospect coming out. He is big and athletic, but unfortunately he has no skills (sounds like someone else...). His potential wasn't worth Brand, but I can at least kind of see the logic there. An athletic 7-1 guy that can score is a hell of an asset.
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post Jun 29 2006, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 29 2006, 12:40 PM)
To be fair, he did look like a heck of a prospect coming out. He is big and athletic, but unfortunately he has no skills (sounds like someone else...). His potential wasn't worth Brand, but I can at least kind of see the logic there.

So then where did his ability to dribble a basketball or shoot a jump shot disappear to??

And yeah, I will admit that the whole Brand-tyson debacle has left me jaded. The thought of history repeating itself and not learning from our mistakes pisses me off...
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post Jun 29 2006, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 29 2006, 12:47 PM)
So then where did his ability to dribble a basketball or shoot a jump shot disappear to??

And yeah, I will admit that the whole Brand-tyson debacle has left me jaded. The thought of history repeating itself and not learning from our mistakes pisses me off...

Well, GM's seem to get a little excited when they see any sign of talent in an area. It seems like when they see an athlete with big potential they try to find other things that they like. The same thing seems to be the case with Thomas' jumpshot. Nobody ever said anything about his jumper until he hit a couple against Texas. It's not a major part of his game, and he's not exactly Richard Hamilton with the mid-range game. In fact, he struggled when he was far away from the basket for long stretches, like against Texas A&M.
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